Is this Pakistan’s Democratic Revolution?

Sir Francis Tuker

Courtesy: While Memory Serves
(London: Cassell, 1950), pp. 137-151

Static guards took over from police guards and a party of troops under Major Littleboy, the Assistant Provost-Marshal, did valuable work in the rescue organisation for displaced and needy persons. Outside the `military` areas, the situation worsened hourly. Buses and taxis were charging about loaded with Sikhs and Hindus armed with swords, iron bars and firearms.

Dear Harish mian,

If your claim about my running away are true, why is it that you are still missing in action on atleast 15 different boards despite my repeated offers to you to answer direct questins...

As for Your questions, they have all been answered adequately here and on other boards as well. Calling me an idiot will not do anything but prove your own sterling credentials as one.

Now If direct action day was 16th August 1946 exclusively... what ``movement`` was Jinnah supposed to call off on the 17th? The busloads of Congress workers being brought in by Patel and the lot? This is just amazing logic...

``Lahore Gazette``...

Now what newspaper is that ... did you just invent it like everything else?


Let me quote my post again because despite your attempt to make it appear to the contrary you haven`t addressed a single point.


When Gandhi`s followers were butchering Muslims left right and center ... way after Jinnah had condemned his own followers for their role in fanning violence on the 17th of August.. where was the racist casteist Hindu fascist bigot ``Mahatma`` Gandhi...

Why wasn`t he telling his right hand man Patel to cool it and stop bussing in Hindus and Sikhs from other parts of India the way he was? Why didn`t he vow a fast of silence vis a vis Patel, when, according to Sumit Sarkar, Patel was gloating about Killing many more Muslims than Hindus?

Your logic doesn`t make sense. It just goes to prove that Gandhi was a machiavellian politician without any concern for human life or dignity.


Now coming to your lies:


Suhrawardy ... who was quite an independent minded politician... declared a holiday because the police itself was largely composed of Sikh and Hindu policemen who would have cracked down on the League.

Now here is some real evidence unlike your ridiculous claims:

``Last weekend has seen dreadful riots in Calcutta. The estimates of casualties is 3000 dead and 17000 injured. The Bengal Congress are convinced that all the trouble was deliberately engineered by the Muslim League Ministry, but no satisfactory evidence to that effect has reached me yet. It is said that the decision to have a public holiday on 16th August was the cause of trouble, but I think this is very far-fetched. There was a public holiday in Sind and there was no trouble there. At any rate, whatever the causes of the outbreak, when it started, the Hindus and Sikhs were every bit as fierce as Muslims. The present estimate is that appreciably more Muslims were killed than the Hindus``

Lord Wavell to Pethick Lawrence


The editorial of Blitz, the Congress Mouthpiece... writes::


Meanwhile the Congress Mouthpiece ``Blitz`` wrote this about the direct action day:

The worst enemies of the Muslim League cannot help envying the leadership of Mr Jinnah. Last week`s cataclysmic transformation of the League from the reactionary racket of the Muslim Nawabs, Noons, and Knights into a revolutionary mass organisation dedicated, by word if not be deed, to an anti-Imperialist struggle, compels us to express the sneaking national wish that a diplomat and strategist of Jinnah`s proven calibre were at the held of the Indian National Congress. There is no denying the fact that by his latest master-stroke of diplomacy Jinnah has outbid, outwitted and outmaneuvered the British and Congress alike and confounded the common national indictment that the Muslim League is a parasite of British Imperialism

Now why would a Congress Newspaper praise Jinnah if Direct Action Day was all that you are making it out to be...

The fact is that Calcutta was an exception... a well thought out plan by the Congress which sabotaged the League`s programme for temporary political gain....

It is funny how Indians here use the word `Direct Action` as if it means some kind of violence in of itself... Infact in the examples of `Direct Action` ... this website speaks of `Non-violent Direct Action` by Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr....

http://www.free-definition.com/Direct-action.html

Direct Action simply means civil disobedience... as Dr. King put it:

``Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored.``


Now consider H V Hodson`s description of the League Programme:

``The working committee followed up by calling on Muslims through out India to observe 16th August as direct action day. On that Day meeting would be held all over the country to explain League`s resolution. These meetings and processions passed of- as was manifestly the Central league leaders` intention- without more than commonplace and limited disturbance with one vast and tragic exception... what happened was more than anyone could have foreseen.``

(Page 166 `The Great Divide`)


Explaining Direct Action Jinnah made it clear that the direct Action will not be in any form but in peaceful form...


``16th August is not for the purpose of resorting to Direct Action in any form or shape, Therefore I enjoin upon the Muslims to carry our the instructions and abide by them strictly and conduct themselves peacefuly and in a disciplined manner.``

Press Release Jinnah 14th August 1946


Statement from Jinnah on the 17 August 1946, next day after the Calcutta Killings:

“I condemn the violence and sympathise with the victims. It was contrary to what the working Committee (of ML) said that some people have acted against the directives (sic)”.

BTW... where does Jinnah speak of both sides ? Was that another lie you invented as you go along...


Answer these questions. Your failure to answer them proves that you don`t have a point.

Your comment about ``Wikipedia`` is rather ironic. You are so desperate to find something to celebrate that you are assuming that if some anonymous interactor claims that I have vandalised (because I pointed out that speeches are a matter of public record) that is like ``hauling`` someone over the coals. I took the matter up with Wikipedia and they had absolutely no idea about the said anonymous contributor. It must have been some loser from Chowk and we all know who that maybe.

#194 by Yasser

Thanks for bringing to my attention the absolutely baseless, unsourced and one sided article on Wikipedia that I shall now edit - by posting references...

Be careful, you might be hauled over the coals again for trying to vandalize the wesbite. Your butt is already charred beyond recognition, and may I add redemption...LOL!

#193 by Yasser

I must have answered these questions of yours several times... and you`ve always run away from debate and come back and repeated the same lies again...

Aww really? Over the past few days, it has been sufficiently established that you`re prone to running away with your tail tucked in between your legs whenever confronted with tough questions, choosing to sneak in like a thug when no one is around. Please pardon us if no one takes you seriously anymore.

Why wasn`t he telling his right hand man Patel to cool it and stop bussing in Hindus and Sikhs from other parts of India the way he was?

First of all, you haven`t been able to prove the questions I raised in my previous post, which is: what evidence do you have to prove that Hindus and Sikhs were indeed being brought into Calcutta by the busloads? And simple common sense would suggest that if that indeed was the case, it is Suhrawardy, Jinnah`s crony who is to blame for having declared a holiday on what was surely going to be a violent day. But like a true moron, you try to obfuscate the League`s culpability by instead blaming Gandhi. So tell us why would Gandhi tell Patel what to do? It was Jinnah who had issued the call to Muslim Leaguers to indulge in a killing spree, so if anything, Jinnah had to withdraw his call, like Gandhi did during Chauri Chaura. Get it, idiot?

Your logic doesn`t make sense. It just goes to prove that Gandhi was a machiavellian politician without any concern for human life or dignity.

What amazing idiocy! Jinnah issues the call to Direct Action, giving a free hand to Leaguers to indulge in wanton violence and butchery, goes into hiding, sleeping on the floors to get used a life in prison, and you expect Gandhi to show concern for human life and dignity? Moron!

Suhrawardy ... who was quite an independent minded politician... declared a holiday because the police itself was largely composed of Sikh and Hindu policemen who would have cracked down on the League.

Really? Suhrawardy told you so? Everyone knows how Jinnah was an absolute dictator in the ML, and Suhrawardy was merely a crony who wouldn`t so much as squeak without Jinnah`s approval and here were are, Goebbels himself telling us what an independent guy the fellow was..LOL!

And what makes you think we`d believe your claims of the Bengal police being composed of Hindus and Sikhs without any proof. The SGPC report on the DAD violence clearly says the Bengal police was overwhelmingly Muslim. Do you want me to paste that excerpt here?

Now why would a Congress Newspaper praise Jinnah if Direct Action Day was all that you are making it out to be...

But the Lahore Gazette, a pro-ML paper (and almost half a dozen other newspapers) clearly blames Jinnah and his ML for whipping up a communal frenzy and holds him responsible if the inflammatory statements being issued by Jinnah and his cohorts led to violence, which eventually it did.

It is funny how Indians here use the word `Direct Action` as if it means some kind of violence in of itself... Infact in the examples of `Direct Action` ... this website speaks of `Non-violent Direct Action` by Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr....

Only a fool would compare what Jinnah did to what Gandhi and Martin Luther King sought to do. But we don`t expect anything better from you, do we?

Folio...

You may go on believing that the earth is flat... but H M Seervai, Patrick French, Ainslee T Embree, SK Majumdar and Wolpert etc are not Pakistanis. They`ve all given the view of history that I am giving you... which is as different from Pakistani mythology as it is from Indian.... Infact Indian national mythology and Pakistani national mythology perfectly complement each other... So your abuse against Jinnah is baseless and indicative of Indian mythology and not the facts... Jinnah gave most of his life to the cause of India and in te end it was Gandhian bigotry that left him no choice.

As for Jinnah being ``stupid`` in portraying Gandhi`s death as a loss to humanity. Hardly... it shows that he was a great man who had respect and regard for his opponents. Neither Jinnah nor Martin Luthar King were stupid... they were just misinformed about Gandhi`s true face...



As for Gandhi`s collected works... those are his words. You can`t wiggle out of inconvenient facts.
Well now I produce for your benefit Racist Casteist Hindu Fascist Bigot Gandhi`s own words from the The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi which prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that what I have written is fact and it is you who is trying to cover up the real facts... what I produce below shows that Gandhi was the most racist and inhumane exclusivist bigot known to mankind... no wonder one of his own followers from the Mullah Brothers from Khilafat Movement declared later that even the worse Muslim was better than Gandhi... not because Gandhi was a Hindu... but because he was a racist casteist hindu fascist bigot....



Gandhi’s Mein Kempf

Like Adolf Hitler, Gandhi also compiled his racist manifesto when he was an accomplished barrister of age 35. Please note his extensive usage of the word “Kaffir” for black people- Citations are from Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi ... they may be checked again and again from any library in the US...


``A general belief seems to prevail in the colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than the savages or natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir. ``
Collected works of MK Gandhi, Vol. 1, pg 150-151

``the whole objection to the Indian proceeds from sanitary grounds, the following restrictions are entirely unintelligible:
1. The Indians, like the Kaffirs, cannot become owners of fixed property.
2. The Indians must be registered, the fee being 3 pounds 10S.
3. In passing through the Republic, like the Natives, they must be able to produce passes unless they have the registration ticket.
4. They cannot travel first or second-class on the railways. They are huddled together in the same compartment with the Natives.
So far as the feeling has been expressed, it is to degrade the Indian to the position of the Kaffir. ``
Petition to Lord Ripon, CWOMG, Vol. 1, pg 199-200


``Ours is one continual struggle against a degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the Europeans, who desire to degrade us to the level of a raw Kaffir whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with and, then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness ``
Address in Bombay, CWOMG, Vol. 2, pg 74

``...A reference to Hunter`s `Indian Empire`, chapters 3 and 4, would show at a glance who are aborigines and who are not. The matter is put so plainly that there can be no mistake about the distinction between the two. It will be seen at once from the book that the Indians in South Africa belong to the INDO-GERMANIC STOCK or, more properly speaking, the ARYAN stock

We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do, only we believe that they would best serve these interests, which are as dear to us as to them, by advocating the purity of all races, and not one alone. We believe also that the white race of South Africa should be the predominating race. ``
Indian Opinion 24-9-1903, CWOMG Vol. 3, pg 453

...The petition dwells upon ``the co-mingling of the Coloured and white races``. May we inform the members of the conference that, so far as the British Indians are concerned, such a thing is practically unknown? If there is one thing, which the Indian cherishes more than any other, it is the purity of type. Why bring such a question into the controversy at all?
The Transvaal Chambers and British Indians, Indian Opinion 24-12-03, CWOMG Vol. 4, pg 89

Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian Location should be chosen for dumping down all the Kaffirs of the town passes my comprehension. ...Of course, under my suggestion, The Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly
Indian Opinion, 10-4-04, CWOMG Vol. 4, pg 130-131

It is one thing to register Natives who would not work, and whom it is very difficult to find out if they absent themselves, but it is another thing and most insulting to expect decent, hard-working, and respectable Indians, whose only fault is that they work too much, to have themselves registered...
What is a Coolie, Indian Opinion 2151904, CWOMG Vol. 4, pg 193

It reduces British Indians to a status lower than that of the aboriginal races of South Africa and the Coloured people.
Indian Opinion 15-9-1906, CWOMG Vol. 5, pg 419-423

Mr. Stead has boldly come out to give us all the help he can. He was therefore requested to write to the same Boer leaders that they should not consider Indians as being on the same level as Kaffirs.
Indian Opinion, 15-12-1906, CWOMG Vol. 6, pg 183

...the Governor of the gaol tried to make us as comfortable as he could...But he was powerless to accommodate us beyond the horrible din and the yells of the Native prisoners throughout the day and partly at night also. Many of the native prisoners are only one degree removed from the animal and often created rows and fought amongst themselves in their cells.
Indian Opinion 7-3-1908, CWOMG Vol. 8, pg 120

Apart from whether or not this implies degradation, I must say it is rather dangerous. Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilized -- the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty, and live almost like animals. Each ward contains nearly 50 to 60 of them. They often started rows and fought among themselves. The reader can easily imagine the plight of the poor Indian thrown into such company!
Indian Opinion, 7-3-1908, CWOMG Vol. 8, pg 135

When I reached there, the chief warder issued an order that all of us should be lodged in a separate room. I observed with regret that some Indians were happy to sleep in the same room as the Kaffirs, the reason being that they hoped there for a secret supply of tobacco, etc. This is a matter of shame to us. We may entertain no aversion to the Kaffirs, but we cannot ignore the fact that there is no common ground between them and us in the daily affairs of life. Moreover, those who wish to sleep in the same room have ulterior motives for doing so. Obviously, we ought to abandon such notions if we want to make progress.
Indian Opinion, 6-1-1909, CWOMG Vol. 9, pg 149

CWMOG = Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi

Gandhi`s racism against scheduled castes and dalits

He wrote in 1922 for Niya Jawan

(1) I believe that if Hindu Society has been able to stand it is because it is founded on the caste system.
(2) The seeds of swaraj are to be found in the caste system. Different castes are like different sections of miliary division. Each division is working for the good of the whole....

(3) A community which can create the caste system must be said to possess unique power of organization.

(4) Caste has a ready made means for spreading primary education. Each caste can take the responsibility for the education of the children of the caste. Caste has a political basis. It can work as an electorate for a representative body. Caste can perform judicial functions by electing persons to act as judges to decide disputes among members of the same caste. With castes it is easy to raise a defense force by requiring each caste to raise a brigade.

(5) I believe that interdining or intermarriage are not necessary for promoting national unity. That dining together creates friendship is contrary to experience. If this was true there would have been no war in Europe.... Taking food is as dirty an act as answering the call of nature. The only difference is that after answering call of nature we get peace while after eating food we get discomfort. Just as we perform the act of answering the call of nature in seclusion so also the act of taking food must also be done in seclusion.

(6) In India children of brothers do not intermarry. Do they cease to love because they do not intermarry? Among the Vaishnavas many women are so orthodox that they will not eat with members of the family nor will they drink water from a common water pot. Have they no love? The caste system cannot be said to be bad because it does not allow interdining or intermarriage between different castes.

(7) Caste is another name for control. Caste puts a limit on enjoyment. Caste does not allow a person to transgress caste limits in pursuit of his enjoyment. That is the meaning of such caste restrictions as interdining and intermarriage.

(8) To destroy caste system and adopt Western European social system means that Hindus must give up the principle of hereditary occupation which is the soul of the caste system. Hereditary principle is an eternal principle. To change it is to create disorder. I have no use for a Brahmin if I cannot call him a Brahmin for my life. It will be a chaos if every day a Brahmin is to be changed into a Shudra and a Shudra is to be changed into a Brahmin.

(9) The caste system is a natural order of society. In India it has been given a religious coating. Other countries not having understood the utility of the caste system, it existed only in a loose condition and consequently those countries have not derived from caste system the same degree of advantage which India has derived. These being my views I am opposed to all those who are out to destroy the caste system.

yasser,

So agree that Jinnah was a stupid to portray Gandhi`s death as a loss to humanity. Wow! To me Jinnah was a Lucifer & Gandhi was a symbol of Hope to India, even today.

Now u agree that u didnt read all the 98 volumes on Gandhi? Even if u`ve browsed them it looks like that u tried to fish some inconvenient passages to construct Gandhi as a villain who stole the thunder of Jinnah in India. Half-truths are dangerous! Btw, truth is the enemy of Pakistanis. So keep whining abt Gandhi.

Jinnah`s status in history - different from mythology called Pakistan`s official history - is dustbin. Having ur country being effed by ur own people since the Devil died, it gives satisfaction to people like u, who follow the `sour grapes` principle, in showing India in poor light. So be it. Pl keep doing that -ve portrayal. There`s no material loss to India. There`s always satisfaction to loser Jinnahites that there are pockets of poverty in India, though these pockets are dwindling at a faster rate.

Coming to Gandhi, he`s a shining star of humanity whereas Jinnah was an Muslim bigot & blood-thristy beast who was power hungry to the bone till he died. No RIP to Jinnah.

U can keep ur minority, back-alley pervert`s views. There`s always market for alternative stories, histories & theories in this world.

The PPP ex-PMs are salivating at the thought of ``democracy``

Pakistan`s hard currency reserves are at an all time high. The Paki Rupee has been stable for seven years. The economy is growing at fantastic rates. There is a construction boom in Karachi. Work is starting on Pakistan`s fourth port at Somniani. (T)

All this is happening on the Mohajir dictator`s watch and his Mohajir PM`s administration. The exiled ``democratically-elected`` PPP ex-PMs are salivating at the prospect of returning and feeding at the trough with both mouths.

#182 Mantolives {``Your point of view about Punjabi domination is a valid one... even if your way of expressing it is characteristic of someone Aamir Liaqat Hussain... the fact that Punjab- owing to its status as a ``martial country`` under the British empire was the feudal heartland really meant the end of Pakistan after the Mohajirs were sidelined``}

Manto,
That is exactly why you have a future in politics and I don`t :) What matters most is that you agree with the issue - thanks.

BTW, from what little I have observed, Aamir Liquat Hussain is a very informed and effective speaker. Now, please put that brick down.

PS: Thanks for bringing to my attention the absolutely baseless, unsourced and one sided article on Wikipedia that I shall now edit - by posting references...

Dear Harish mian,

I must have answered these questions of yours several times... and you`ve always run away from debate and come back and repeated the same lies again... before I answer your questions the millionth time.... let me repeat the QUESTION that you are AVOIDING deliberately:


When Gandhi`s followers were butchering Muslims left right and center ... way after Jinnah had condemned his own followers for their role in fanning violence on the 17th of August.. where was the racist casteist Hindu fascist bigot ``Mahatma`` Gandhi...

Why wasn`t he telling his right hand man Patel to cool it and stop bussing in Hindus and Sikhs from other parts of India the way he was? Why didn`t he vow a fast of silence vis a vis Patel, when, according to Sumit Sarkar, Patel was gloating about Killing many more Muslims than Hindus?

Your logic doesn`t make sense. It just goes to prove that Gandhi was a machiavellian politician without any concern for human life or dignity.


Now coming to your lies:


Suhrawardy ... who was quite an independent minded politician... declared a holiday because the police itself was largely composed of Sikh and Hindu policemen who would have cracked down on the League.

Now here is some real evidence unlike your ridiculous claims:

``Last weekend has seen dreadful riots in Calcutta. The estimates of casualties is 3000 dead and 17000 injured. The Bengal Congress are convinced that all the trouble was deliberately engineered by the Muslim League Ministry, but no satisfactory evidence to that effect has reached me yet. It is said that the decision to have a public holiday on 16th August was the cause of trouble, but I think this is very far-fetched. There was a public holiday in Sind and there was no trouble there. At any rate, whatever the causes of the outbreak, when it started, the Hindus and Sikhs were every bit as fierce as Muslims. The present estimate is that appreciably more Muslims were killed than the Hindus``

Lord Wavell to Pethick Lawrence


The editorial of Blitz, the Congress Mouthpiece... writes::


Meanwhile the Congress Mouthpiece ``Blitz`` wrote this about the direct action day:

The worst enemies of the Muslim League cannot help envying the leadership of Mr Jinnah. Last week`s cataclysmic transformation of the League from the reactionary racket of the Muslim Nawabs, Noons, and Knights into a revolutionary mass organisation dedicated, by word if not be deed, to an anti-Imperialist struggle, compels us to express the sneaking national wish that a diplomat and strategist of Jinnah`s proven calibre were at the held of the Indian National Congress. There is no denying the fact that by his latest master-stroke of diplomacy Jinnah has outbid, outwitted and outmaneuvered the British and Congress alike and confounded the common national indictment that the Muslim League is a parasite of British Imperialism

Now why would a Congress Newspaper praise Jinnah if Direct Action Day was all that you are making it out to be...

The fact is that Calcutta was an exception... a well thought out plan by the Congress which sabotaged the League`s programme for temporary political gain....

It is funny how Indians here use the word `Direct Action` as if it means some kind of violence in of itself... Infact in the examples of `Direct Action` ... this website speaks of `Non-violent Direct Action` by Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr....

http://www.free-definition.com/Direct-action.html

Direct Action simply means civil disobedience... as Dr. King put it:

``Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored.``


Now consider H V Hodson`s description of the League Programme:

``The working committee followed up by calling on Muslims through out India to observe 16th August as direct action day. On that Day meeting would be held all over the country to explain League`s resolution. These meetings and processions passed of- as was manifestly the Central league leaders` intention- without more than commonplace and limited disturbance with one vast and tragic exception... what happened was more than anyone could have foreseen.``

(Page 166 `The Great Divide`)


Explaining Direct Action Jinnah made it clear that the direct Action will not be in any form but in peaceful form...


``16th August is not for the purpose of resorting to Direct Action in any form or shape, Therefore I enjoin upon the Muslims to carry our the instructions and abide by them strictly and conduct themselves peacefuly and in a disciplined manner.``

Press Release Jinnah 14th August 1946


Statement from Jinnah on the 17 August 1946, next day after the Calcutta Killings:

“I condemn the violence and sympathise with the victims. It was contrary to what the working Committee (of ML) said that some people have acted against the directives (sic)”.

BTW... where does Jinnah speak of both sides ? Was that another lie you invented as you go along...

Folks, read more about the Direct Action Day here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Action_Day

Every reference contained on this page clearly says that it was the Muslim League that instigated the violence, but Yasser refuses to see the truth. What a moron!

#186 by Yasser

Apparently Jinnah`s reaction time to condemning his own party (even though his party was later proved to be not involved) was much quicker than gandhi`s calling off the movement. Amazingly... it was the Hindus butchering Muslims... now unless you think Jinnah could call off the Congress Party goons who were being brought into Calcutta by the truckloads, I don`t know how you can claim what you are claiming.

1. Aren`t we being a bit smart here? Where did Jinnah condemn his party?

2. The violence started after Jinnah issued the call to Direct Action, which according to a Leaguer meant ``any action against the law``, which clearly implied what was to follow. So how would any sane man blame Hindus for reacting to violence that was foisted upon them by Jinnah`s cronies. To blame Gandhi for the violence, you must be some kind of a freak, for not even the most diehard Leaguers have anything against him.

3. Amazingly, Suhrawardy, a Jinnah crony declares a holiday to the police despite the tense atmosphere, and here we are blaming Congress for bringing ``truckloads of goons``, you must be an incredibly dishonest crook. Two things here:

(i) First of all, there is no evidence of Congress complicity.

(ii) Even if we were to accept your contention, isn`t that the failure of the ML government for having declared a holliday, despite your laughable contention that ``truckloads of Congress goons`` were being brought into the city.

That is why you should stick to clients in ``god-forsaken countries with no GPRS/Internet``, because otherwise, once people realize that you`re arguing the case, it would be thrown out without a second glance.

Re: # 188

When Gandhi`s followers were butchering Muslims left right and center ... way after Jinnah had condemned his own followers for their role in fanning violence on the 17th of August.. where was the racist casteist Hindu fascist bigot ``Mahatma`` Gandhi...

Why wasn`t he telling his right hand man Patel to cool it and stop bussing in Hindus and Sikhs from other parts of India the way he was? Why didn`t he vow a fast of silence vis a vis Patel, when, according to Sumit Sarkar, Patel was gloating about Killing many more Muslims than Hindus?

Your logic doesn`t make sense. It just goes to prove that Gandhi was a machiavellian politician without any concern for human life or dignity.

``violence had subsided``

Unless you think violence had subsided on the morning of 17th of August 1946 - less than 12 hours after the violence was first reported in Calcutta- when Jinnah admonished his own party - this is another claim in a long list of claims that you had invented because that deadly combination of ignorance and fanaticism that is your hallmark.

The truth is that you may spin Direct Action Day any which way... but you cannot disprove that the Racist Casteist Hindu Fascist Bigot Gandhi did not make those statements that put him side by side such great names in the pantheon of racial bigotry as Adolf Hitler and George Wallace... the Aryan and American Mahatmas and Gandhi-brothers...

#187 by Yasser

What a liar.... gandhi did not go to any fast unto death in Calcutta in 1946....

Aww Yasser, how much clearer do you want it to be? It is clear that you`re struggling and your obvious shortcomings with English are showing. Where did I say Gandhi fasted in 1946? I`m talking about the Chauri Chaura incident. You seriously need to take up English comprehension classes. I promise I`ll pay for it.

What a liar.... gandhi did not go to any fast unto death in Calcutta in 1946.... he refused t condemn Hindus butchering Muslims then.... so don`t reinvent history to gloss over the racist casteist hindu fascist bigot that Gandhi was...