Shandana Minhas April 2, 2007
#1593 Posted by Folio on April 15, 2007 11:28:08 am
TE Shah Sahib,
I know ur consistency of opinions. U dont need a certificate from us. Ur posts speak 4 urself.
In any case one shudnt be judged on post-to-post basis. I think I must also read btw the lines as far ur posts on Mukhtar Mai`s case is concerned.
Regards.
I know ur consistency of opinions. U dont need a certificate from us. Ur posts speak 4 urself.
In any case one shudnt be judged on post-to-post basis. I think I must also read btw the lines as far ur posts on Mukhtar Mai`s case is concerned.
Regards.
#1617 Posted by teshah on April 15, 2007 7:51:12 pm
Re: # 1593
Folio
Thank you dear for your kind comments. You are right: I do get frustrated when one gets irrationally biased and tries to insult common sense and intelligence which Zeena baji is persistently prone to do.
Folio
Thank you dear for your kind comments. You are right: I do get frustrated when one gets irrationally biased and tries to insult common sense and intelligence which Zeena baji is persistently prone to do.
#1591 Posted by Zeena on April 14, 2007 9:39:36 pm
Prayer from God(Almighty) for all the poor and oppressed Pakistani women and men.....
For all the courageous Pakistani people................
O God, hear our prayer.
Grant us strength when we are tempted.
Grant us courage when we are afraid.
Guide us when we do not know what to do.
Give us a cheerful heart when we are discouraged.
Comfort us when life brings us sorrow.
Help us to be persevering when things are difficult.
May Your love and peace prevail so that nothing may take away our joy.
Ameen.
EP............
Thank you God for letting us see the true colors, thanks for leading us in a right direction, thanks for choosing us to stand up for our rights.............Please, help us more in and more each day to clear the clouds of sins and to make us more humble and more kind to eachother......................
Dear God(Almighty)
Please, forgive all our selfishness and our thanklessness.
Please, make me more brave and patience each and every day................
I love you, God. I love you.............
Please, God, let me cry the tears of sorrow and sadness which I feel for my selfishness.
Please, God, let me cry the tears of thankfulness for all the blessings that you bestowed upon us, the humans.
Thank you God.
For all the courageous Pakistani people................
O God, hear our prayer.
Grant us strength when we are tempted.
Grant us courage when we are afraid.
Guide us when we do not know what to do.
Give us a cheerful heart when we are discouraged.
Comfort us when life brings us sorrow.
Help us to be persevering when things are difficult.
May Your love and peace prevail so that nothing may take away our joy.
Ameen.
EP............
Thank you God for letting us see the true colors, thanks for leading us in a right direction, thanks for choosing us to stand up for our rights.............Please, help us more in and more each day to clear the clouds of sins and to make us more humble and more kind to eachother......................
Dear God(Almighty)
Please, forgive all our selfishness and our thanklessness.
Please, make me more brave and patience each and every day................
I love you, God. I love you.............
Please, God, let me cry the tears of sorrow and sadness which I feel for my selfishness.
Please, God, let me cry the tears of thankfulness for all the blessings that you bestowed upon us, the humans.
Thank you God.
#1590 Posted by Zeena on April 14, 2007 9:20:36 pm
My favourite quotes , which I wish to dedicate for the bravery and courage of all my poor and oppressed Pakistani sisters, who stood up for their rights against oppression..
Those are the ones who are really brave souls.............and yes, I salute those souls.
Aristotle:
Moral excellence comes about as a result of habit. We become just by doing just acts, temperate by doing temperate acts, brave by doing brave acts.
Bernadette Devlin:
Yesterday I dared to struggle. Today I dare to win.
Buckminster Fuller:
Dare to be naive.
Charles DuBois:
The important thing is this: To be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become.
Dorothy Thompson:
Only when we are no longer afraid do we begin to live.
Dorothy Thompson:
Courage, it would seem, is nothing less than the power to overcome danger, misfortune, fear, injustice, while continuing to affirm inwardly that life with all its sorrows is good; that everything is meaningful even if in a sense beyond our understanding; and that there is always tomorrow.
Eleanor Roosevelt:
You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You must do the thing which you think you cannot do.
Erich Fromm:
Creativity requires the courage to let go of certainties.
Harriet Beecher Stowe:
All serious daring starts from within.
Helen Keller:
I long to accomplish a great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker.
Helen Keller:
We could never learn to be brave and patient if there were only joy in the world.
Henry David Thoreau:
When I hear music, I fear no danger. I am invulnerable. I see no foe. I am related to the earliest times, and to the latest.
James Freeman Clarke:
Conscience is the root of all true courage; if a man would be brave let him obey his conscience.
John Quincy Adams:
Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.
Keshavan Nair:
With courage you will dare to take risks, have the strength to be compassionate, and the wisdom to be humble. Courage is the foundation of integrity.
Margaret Chase Smith:
Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Marian Wright Edelman:
Whoever said anybody has a right to give up?
Martin Luther King, jr.:
If you lose hope, somehow you lose the vitality that keeps life moving, you lose that courage to be, that quality that helps you go on in spite of it all. And so today I still have a dream.
The Trumpet of Conscience
Maya Angelou:
History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
Maya Angelou :
One isn`t necessarily born with courage, but one is born with potential. Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can`t be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest.
Ralph Waldo Emerson:
When a resolute young fellow steps up to the great bully, the world, and takes him boldly by the beard, he is often surprised to find it comes off in his hand, and that it was only tied on to scare away the timid adventurers.
Ralph Waldo Emerson (probably erroneously):
Whatever you do, you need courage. Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising that tempt you to believe your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires some of the same courage that a soldier needs. Peace has its victories, but it takes brave men and women to win them.
Robert Coles:
Abraham Lincoln did not go to Gettysburg having commissioned a poll to find out what would sell in Gettysburg. There were no people with percentages for him, cautioning him about this group or that group or what they found in exit polls a year earlier. When will we have the courage of Lincoln?
Robert Frost:
The best way out is always through.
Robert G. Ingersoll:
Courage without conscience is a wild beast.
Soren Kierkegaard:
To dare is to lose one`s footing momentarily. To not dare is to lose oneself.
Susan B. Anthony:
Cautious, careful people, always casting about to preserve their reputation and social standing, never can bring about a reform. Those who are really in earnest must be willing to be anything or nothing in the world`s estimation, and publicly and privately, in season and out, avow their sympathy with despised and persecuted ideas and their advocates, and bear the consequences.
Theodore H. White:
To go against the dominant thinking of your friends, of most of the people you see every day, is perhaps the most difficult act of heroism you can perform.
Theodore Roosevelt:
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
From a speech given in Paris at the Sorbonne in 1910
Winston Churchill:
Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.
Those are the ones who are really brave souls.............and yes, I salute those souls.
Aristotle:
Moral excellence comes about as a result of habit. We become just by doing just acts, temperate by doing temperate acts, brave by doing brave acts.
Bernadette Devlin:
Yesterday I dared to struggle. Today I dare to win.
Buckminster Fuller:
Dare to be naive.
Charles DuBois:
The important thing is this: To be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become.
Dorothy Thompson:
Only when we are no longer afraid do we begin to live.
Dorothy Thompson:
Courage, it would seem, is nothing less than the power to overcome danger, misfortune, fear, injustice, while continuing to affirm inwardly that life with all its sorrows is good; that everything is meaningful even if in a sense beyond our understanding; and that there is always tomorrow.
Eleanor Roosevelt:
You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You must do the thing which you think you cannot do.
Erich Fromm:
Creativity requires the courage to let go of certainties.
Harriet Beecher Stowe:
All serious daring starts from within.
Helen Keller:
I long to accomplish a great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker.
Helen Keller:
We could never learn to be brave and patient if there were only joy in the world.
Henry David Thoreau:
When I hear music, I fear no danger. I am invulnerable. I see no foe. I am related to the earliest times, and to the latest.
James Freeman Clarke:
Conscience is the root of all true courage; if a man would be brave let him obey his conscience.
John Quincy Adams:
Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.
Keshavan Nair:
With courage you will dare to take risks, have the strength to be compassionate, and the wisdom to be humble. Courage is the foundation of integrity.
Margaret Chase Smith:
Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Marian Wright Edelman:
Whoever said anybody has a right to give up?
Martin Luther King, jr.:
If you lose hope, somehow you lose the vitality that keeps life moving, you lose that courage to be, that quality that helps you go on in spite of it all. And so today I still have a dream.
The Trumpet of Conscience
Maya Angelou:
History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
Maya Angelou :
One isn`t necessarily born with courage, but one is born with potential. Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can`t be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest.
Ralph Waldo Emerson:
When a resolute young fellow steps up to the great bully, the world, and takes him boldly by the beard, he is often surprised to find it comes off in his hand, and that it was only tied on to scare away the timid adventurers.
Ralph Waldo Emerson (probably erroneously):
Whatever you do, you need courage. Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising that tempt you to believe your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires some of the same courage that a soldier needs. Peace has its victories, but it takes brave men and women to win them.
Robert Coles:
Abraham Lincoln did not go to Gettysburg having commissioned a poll to find out what would sell in Gettysburg. There were no people with percentages for him, cautioning him about this group or that group or what they found in exit polls a year earlier. When will we have the courage of Lincoln?
Robert Frost:
The best way out is always through.
Robert G. Ingersoll:
Courage without conscience is a wild beast.
Soren Kierkegaard:
To dare is to lose one`s footing momentarily. To not dare is to lose oneself.
Susan B. Anthony:
Cautious, careful people, always casting about to preserve their reputation and social standing, never can bring about a reform. Those who are really in earnest must be willing to be anything or nothing in the world`s estimation, and publicly and privately, in season and out, avow their sympathy with despised and persecuted ideas and their advocates, and bear the consequences.
Theodore H. White:
To go against the dominant thinking of your friends, of most of the people you see every day, is perhaps the most difficult act of heroism you can perform.
Theodore Roosevelt:
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
From a speech given in Paris at the Sorbonne in 1910
Winston Churchill:
Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.
#1589 Posted by Zeena on April 14, 2007 9:20:08 pm
#1584 khamakhwa sahib
One more thing...........
You are just a dummy(kuthputli) of Saminasha2 and her shallow abusive gang.
Take care.
Thanks for abusing me in the past and thanks for personally attacking me in the past and in future.................I am honored by your abuse.............
One more thing...........
You are just a dummy(kuthputli) of Saminasha2 and her shallow abusive gang.
Take care.
Thanks for abusing me in the past and thanks for personally attacking me in the past and in future.................I am honored by your abuse.............
#1588 Posted by Zeena on April 14, 2007 9:08:03 pm
#1584 khamakhwa sahib
I do not know you at all and do not wish to know you.
But, this much I know that who is working behind you?
And that interactor is Saminasha2 and her gang. You are also one of her gang member.
Please, continue exchanging e-mails to make plans how to expose me? B/c you do not have your own mind, you only work on her tune.
If, she and her male and female friends will tell me to abuse me, personally attack me. You will feel NO shame in doing that. You have had been abusing me persistently in the past and I am sure will continue to do that for NO reason.
Saminasha2 and her gang harrasses majority of chowk interactors. You being her gang member feels it your duty to abuse me just to please your Head of your gang(Saminasha2)........
Now, come with more personal posts towards me, come with more schemes to belittle me.................b/c what can I expect from a shallow person like you? What can I expect from a shallow gang of abusers like you and your head ?
Honestly, I do not care, even if you call me names, drag my name down to insult me.
And it does not make any difference to my health.
As always I will always ignore you , your head and rest of your abusive gang.
My only advice for you is to relax, take a pause and then personally attack me with more schemes..........Just go on MSN, talk it out with your head, with rest of your abusive gang and may be you will come up with NEW ideas to belittle me more.................Just enjoy your abuse for me. B/c you, your head and your abusive gang has made it your life time mission to belittle me...............What a gang of intellectuals!!! Bravo.
Keep your abuse and scheming well and alive.
Thanks
I do not know you at all and do not wish to know you.
But, this much I know that who is working behind you?
And that interactor is Saminasha2 and her gang. You are also one of her gang member.
Please, continue exchanging e-mails to make plans how to expose me? B/c you do not have your own mind, you only work on her tune.
If, she and her male and female friends will tell me to abuse me, personally attack me. You will feel NO shame in doing that. You have had been abusing me persistently in the past and I am sure will continue to do that for NO reason.
Saminasha2 and her gang harrasses majority of chowk interactors. You being her gang member feels it your duty to abuse me just to please your Head of your gang(Saminasha2)........
Now, come with more personal posts towards me, come with more schemes to belittle me.................b/c what can I expect from a shallow person like you? What can I expect from a shallow gang of abusers like you and your head ?
Honestly, I do not care, even if you call me names, drag my name down to insult me.
And it does not make any difference to my health.
As always I will always ignore you , your head and rest of your abusive gang.
My only advice for you is to relax, take a pause and then personally attack me with more schemes..........Just go on MSN, talk it out with your head, with rest of your abusive gang and may be you will come up with NEW ideas to belittle me more.................Just enjoy your abuse for me. B/c you, your head and your abusive gang has made it your life time mission to belittle me...............What a gang of intellectuals!!! Bravo.
Keep your abuse and scheming well and alive.
Thanks
#1587 Posted by Zeena on April 14, 2007 8:52:06 pm
#1584 by khamakhwa
Sir
I do not imbibe alcohol. Yes, I did joke around with (scout new) and some other female interactors about it..............
And , Yes, I do admit that I tasted Shiraz(wine) just for few times. Who does not ?
Bid deal, haan.
But, I do not like alcohol, I do not consume alcohol at all. Not b/c of some religious reasons, but, b/c I do not like alcohol and I believe it is NOT good for our health.
So, what`s new?
And , since when you and I know eachother?
Please, go tell my Hafsa brave sisters that I did tasted shiraz in the past..........Hurry up.....hurry up....
LOL................
Sir
I do not imbibe alcohol. Yes, I did joke around with (scout new) and some other female interactors about it..............
And , Yes, I do admit that I tasted Shiraz(wine) just for few times. Who does not ?
Bid deal, haan.
But, I do not like alcohol, I do not consume alcohol at all. Not b/c of some religious reasons, but, b/c I do not like alcohol and I believe it is NOT good for our health.
So, what`s new?
And , since when you and I know eachother?
Please, go tell my Hafsa brave sisters that I did tasted shiraz in the past..........Hurry up.....hurry up....
LOL................
#1585 Posted by arjun2 on April 14, 2007 7:47:03 pm
#1571 by Zeena on April 14, 2007 10:52am PT
You can not force me to think
Of course we can`t...you`re not equipped for that activity....
You can not force me to think
Of course we can`t...you`re not equipped for that activity....
#1584 Posted by khamakhwa on April 14, 2007 7:27:31 pm
B/c I do stand for my beloved Hafsa girls............. (zeena)
... i hope you have stopped imbibing alcohol otherwise you know what they will do to you...;)
... i hope you have stopped imbibing alcohol otherwise you know what they will do to you...;)
#1583 Posted by Urstruly on April 14, 2007 6:51:50 pm
OPERATION CLEANUP - A tractor is shoveling away a huge pile of indecent DVDs that were confiscated and destroyed by the Talibaat of Jamiah Hafsa. Godspeed JH.

#1582 Posted by Zeena on April 14, 2007 3:02:45 pm
#1581 Salim Mian
Thank you very much for clearing this up. I apologize for misunderstanding or misreading your post as[[[extra-marital]]]..................
I am really sorry about that lil misunderstanding from my part.
Thank you very much for clearing this up. I apologize for misunderstanding or misreading your post as[[[extra-marital]]]..................
I am really sorry about that lil misunderstanding from my part.
#1581 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 14, 2007 2:42:29 pm
#1569, Zeena {``You stated in one of your posts here on this board,{[[[ Extra-marital sex is VICTIMLESS SIN]]]
Zeena,
Again, another misunderstanding. I think I said pre-marital sex and not extra-marital sex. In fact I put adultery (sex involving at least one partner who is married and not to the one he/she is having sex with) as a public sin. By pre-martial sex, I meant sex between a couple who engage in sex, while both are single, without getting married. Of course, even that is a sin, but a personal one and a victimless one. Basically, I agree with your comments posted in #1569. I apologize for any misunderstanding.
Zeena,
Again, another misunderstanding. I think I said pre-marital sex and not extra-marital sex. In fact I put adultery (sex involving at least one partner who is married and not to the one he/she is having sex with) as a public sin. By pre-martial sex, I meant sex between a couple who engage in sex, while both are single, without getting married. Of course, even that is a sin, but a personal one and a victimless one. Basically, I agree with your comments posted in #1569. I apologize for any misunderstanding.
#1580 Posted by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:54:29 pm
Interactors & Saleem,
Sorry for this. I`ve got to reproduce this from Shandana`s board.
ANYBODY WITH CHOWK ID CAN SEE THE TRUE PICTURE OF UP FOR URSELVES.
#1579 by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:44pm PT
Zeena,
I opened a thread meant for Yasser. The caption is eye-catching but the contents are not. (I posted the thread here).
Sobia jumped in & called me idiot and demented. Why she started calling me like that. WHY?
You want me to keep silent and take all the abuses against me?
Zeena, dont make a scene here. Members who had IDs wud see the whole muck there.
I dont want the muck of UP (incl ali`s post) on this board. Hope good sense prevails.
Btw, pl dont engage in personal remarks.
Much appreaciated.
#1577 by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:31pm PT
Zeena,
Are u going to reproduce the shit with toilet seat published by ur Jihadi-in-arms ali1?
U are as usual over-reacting. Making personal comments is uncalled for Zeena.
UP is an underground den. Keep those UP matters away from the discussion.
[Reply to interact #1577]
#1576 by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:22pm PT
Zeena,
It`s mutual btw her/him & me. I dont look at the other interactors that way.
What u are doing is mud-slinging.
If u want to know she called me worst kinda names.
For ur benefit: I NEVER ABUSED anybody ON MY OWN. It`s OTHERS who flung abuses FIRST. What I did was PAYING THE MEMBER IN THE SAME COIN.
I hope u are happy now.
Chowk Staff:
Pl do filter this post & the post of Zeena below this. Thanks
Sorry for this. I`ve got to reproduce this from Shandana`s board.
ANYBODY WITH CHOWK ID CAN SEE THE TRUE PICTURE OF UP FOR URSELVES.
#1579 by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:44pm PT
Zeena,
I opened a thread meant for Yasser. The caption is eye-catching but the contents are not. (I posted the thread here).
Sobia jumped in & called me idiot and demented. Why she started calling me like that. WHY?
You want me to keep silent and take all the abuses against me?
Zeena, dont make a scene here. Members who had IDs wud see the whole muck there.
I dont want the muck of UP (incl ali`s post) on this board. Hope good sense prevails.
Btw, pl dont engage in personal remarks.
Much appreaciated.
#1577 by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:31pm PT
Zeena,
Are u going to reproduce the shit with toilet seat published by ur Jihadi-in-arms ali1?
U are as usual over-reacting. Making personal comments is uncalled for Zeena.
UP is an underground den. Keep those UP matters away from the discussion.
[Reply to interact #1577]
#1576 by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:22pm PT
Zeena,
It`s mutual btw her/him & me. I dont look at the other interactors that way.
What u are doing is mud-slinging.
If u want to know she called me worst kinda names.
For ur benefit: I NEVER ABUSED anybody ON MY OWN. It`s OTHERS who flung abuses FIRST. What I did was PAYING THE MEMBER IN THE SAME COIN.
I hope u are happy now.
Chowk Staff:
Pl do filter this post & the post of Zeena below this. Thanks
#1579 Posted by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:44:07 pm
Zeena,
I opened a thread meant for Yasser. The caption is eye-catching but the contents are not. (I posted the thread here).
Sobia jumped in & called me idiot and demented. Why she started calling me like that. WHY?
You want me to keep silent and take all the abuses against me?
Zeena, dont make a scene here. Members who had IDs wud see the whole muck there.
I dont want the muck of UP (incl ali`s post) on this board. Hope good sense prevails.
Btw, pl dont engage in personal remarks.
Much appreaciated.
I opened a thread meant for Yasser. The caption is eye-catching but the contents are not. (I posted the thread here).
Sobia jumped in & called me idiot and demented. Why she started calling me like that. WHY?
You want me to keep silent and take all the abuses against me?
Zeena, dont make a scene here. Members who had IDs wud see the whole muck there.
I dont want the muck of UP (incl ali`s post) on this board. Hope good sense prevails.
Btw, pl dont engage in personal remarks.
Much appreaciated.
#1578 Posted by Zeena on April 14, 2007 1:37:03 pm
Chowk Staff
Why to filter my post # 1575? Sobia is my fellow Pakistani woman. I met her and she is my friend.
She is a respectable and accomplished Journalist based on Pakistan. Sobia is very decent, intelligent, matured, very well educated with style and mannerisms.
On , this board, I stood up for my fellow Pakistani Hafsa brave girls right action.
And on the same emotion and on the same note , I hereby stand for my dearest friend, Sobia`s right,b/c she is my fellow Pakistani woman.
Foilo
I saw the whole thread, Sobia never ever initiated any abuse for you. You are the one hurling all the abuse possible for Sobia.
Why to filter my post # 1575? Sobia is my fellow Pakistani woman. I met her and she is my friend.
She is a respectable and accomplished Journalist based on Pakistan. Sobia is very decent, intelligent, matured, very well educated with style and mannerisms.
On , this board, I stood up for my fellow Pakistani Hafsa brave girls right action.
And on the same emotion and on the same note , I hereby stand for my dearest friend, Sobia`s right,b/c she is my fellow Pakistani woman.
Foilo
I saw the whole thread, Sobia never ever initiated any abuse for you. You are the one hurling all the abuse possible for Sobia.
#1577 Posted by Folio on April 14, 2007 1:31:16 pm
Zeena,
Are u going to reproduce the shit with toilet seat published by ur Jihadi-in-arms ali1?
U are as usual over-reacting. Making personal comments is uncalled for Zeena.
UP is an underground den. Keep those UP matters away from the discussion.
Are u going to reproduce the shit with toilet seat published by ur Jihadi-in-arms ali1?
U are as usual over-reacting. Making personal comments is uncalled for Zeena.
UP is an underground den. Keep those UP matters away from the discussion.








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