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# GT

You need to do a lot more work than convincing idiots like me in chowk. There are excellent journals in philosophy which publish work on logical systems. You may want to send your stuff there, take the comments of the referees seriously and thereby advance your work. Finally, you may end up with a cogent and complete system of analysis. And then, I shall proudly let my grandchildren know that I had once communicated with you!

Hey ... I am very selfish. Here I am only increasing the volume of my work in such a hot and cold environment. Hahaha....!!!!! By the way ... it is also a characteristic of Philosophy that most people really do not understand it. People really had not understood atomic theory of Democritus in his times. Sometimes even science community fails to understand pure experimental works as well. Mendal had discovered laws of hereditary on the basis of fine experimental and mathematical works. But science community of his time had rejected his work. His work could get any recognition only about a century after his death. There is lesson for common audience and general science community. They should listen carefully to those who are doing some original works in their times. Otherwise time will blame them.


``There cannot be infinite discrete numbers between 0 and 1``.

You may well be right. But if I take rationals to be discrete, as I can count them through a one to one and onto mapping with the set of integers, then there are indeed infinite discrete numbers between 0 and 1. So your frame of reference and mine are very different. We cannot discuss much and can only agree to disagree on our frames of references.


I already have dealt with the issue that a smaller and a larger ``line`` have exact one to one correspondendence between their respective number of ``points``. I made diagrams to see if really there was such one to one and onto mapping of points or not.

The actual mistake in official theory lies in the definition of ``point`` in Geometry. Geometry considers ``point`` as a ``space less`` particular location. Since this ``point`` is space less, so it is having no ``length`` at all. The same Geometry considers ``line`` as a linier combination of ``points``. The same Geometry also considers that a line possesses a non-zero length but it doesn’t possess any width. But if the constituents of line i.e. “points” had no length at all then how just the combination of those “points” could result in any non-zero length…???

Anyways, this definition of “point” may be right definition in pure Abstract Mathematics. But this is not right for our physical world because there can be no space less physical entity in our spatial world. A ``physical point`` would be having some ``space``. In fact, all the ``points`` would be having same or uniform non-zero space. Let`s say the length of one point is 1 and the length of a finite line is 100. It means that this line has only and only 100 (discrete) points. Points of this line CANNOT have one to one and onto mapping with the points of that line whose length is 200 or infinite.

What is the mistake of official theory…???

The official theory actually draws one to one and onto mapping not between the individual points of a shorter and a longer (or infinite) line. It actually draws one to one and onto mapping between fractional parts of individual points of shorter line with the complete individual points of longer or infinite line.

Now I give you a task. Consider the “length” of a “point” to be 1. Now take two lines. First line being shorter and second line longer.

Length of first line = 100

Length of second line = 200

In this way, there are 100 “points” in first line and there are 200 “points” in second line. Now try to draw one to one and onto mapping between all the points of first line with all the points of second line. Be careful that do not take fractional or overlapping parts of individual points of shorter line!

Believe me, you will not be able to do it, because it is an impossible task. So come out of the fantasy of old Abstract Mathematics where length of “point” is zero and sum of many zeros (i.e. a “line”) is non-zero positive length. In a physical world, any real “point” will be having non-zero positive length.

This is not the case of just difference of frames of references. It is a matter of clear-cut mistake of 0 + 0 + 0 = 3

Regards!

Re: # 156 Urstruly

It`s amazing to see how 3 words ``We don`t know`` can be wrapped with so much ooh and aah.

Re: # 203 Folio

No, it has nothing to do with Lokayata or Buddhist Mahayan. Nothing that serious. It`s just a parody, called Mahayan.

BTW, you may like the new Mahabharat at http://aashraya.blogspot.com/2005/11/vyasas-dissertation.html

(there are only 8 chapters yet).

Congratulations Hamidm2 saheb. You are out on parole.

But for how long?

#209 by zeemax on April 27, 2007 11:24pm PT
#202 by hamidm2

[[That`s GREAT to know ... besides, even though you may not have enough electricity to light your bulb (as Zeena suggests), you`ll always get `oil` for your `laltain` ... :)]]

LOL......huns huns kii stomachache hu gaiaa haiy...........hahahaha

zeemax

You are pretty funny....oh, gosh....

I guess you`re right hamdim2 needs oil...sometimes too, much of a voltage also fuses the brain light bulb.......b/c some people won`t have enough of electricity and electric capacity to bear God(Almighty)`s ligt...you gave me the final clue...

So, I think we shouldn`t blame hamdim2 fo ranything....the man is innocent......his brain`s electric capacity is deficient to see the actual ligt....

hamdim2 Sir
Be happy where ever you are with your fused light bulb.......I am sorry I didn`t realize that God(Almighty)`s light would be too, much for your dark mind to handle...............

#212
Re:-hamidm2 Sir
[[[ i too will sit with bjkumar under a pipal tree - butt naked, with ashes in my hair - shouting ``allah hoo!`` and screaming obscenities at the children who torment me ...............]]

LOL...................for the first time you made sense.....I loved your post...really. and haan keep working out your neurons...gingko buloba is also better to sharpen them....100% money back guranteed success.......

Oh, wait a minute.....what did you say,``Allah hoo``.....so you and bjkumar are already converted back to Islam......wonderful! it looks like you have changed the batteries and your new light bulb is working..........keep it up. I am still hopefullllll.............

#211
Re:-bjkumar sahib
I always knew you`re writer..........quite funny play script......hahaha

Re: # 207

This was what I had expected from zeena ji as what hamidm2 says passes above her mini brain which is over active with little intelligence. In fact what makes women lovable, including of course, zeena ji, are their vacua as we love `kharbooza`, (minus its seeds) , which are very sweet these days.

Freethinker -

[They began to know about themselves and what they were doing – they were not only conscious but also self-conscious. The first word, the first laugh were heard. The first paintings were made. The first sense of a destiny beyond – with the first signs of hope, for these people buried their dead with ritual. The first prayers were made to the One who made All-That Is and All-That-Is-Becoming – the first experiences of goodness, beauty and truth – but also of their opposites, for human beings were free.]

Nice. Very nice. The life-cycle of events seems to be real beautiful and eye-opening. I guess we`ve started taking things for granted.

Re: # 186

zeena

You say:

``Believer is not just to say that you believe in one God(Almighty), believer is to have a love of God(Almighty) and to have love of all living beings(the creation of God)...``

Do you mean we can love `kafirs` also?

I don`t know dear Zeena whether you are a `kafir` or not to be loved as per words of Ghalib:

``Mohabbat mein nahein kuchh farq jine aur marne mein
Usi ko dekh kar jite hein jis `kafir` pih dam nikle``

Re: # 177

Zeena Ji

Sorry dear Zeena for my post which you took so seriously though it was not addressed to you. It was a talk between two men which you overheard and got so overheated and interested in Mullah of Mardan that you keep on repeating that post though I did not tell you any thing about the Mullah of Mardan and his services yet.

Excuse me you talk too much of morality and religion in the same breath as though these are synonymous terms when actually these are contradictions in terms. Morality in its true essence is essentially secularism par excellence as a dogmatic religion necessarily circumscribes it for its own ends which may invariably be questionable morally.

``Science with religion is lame ; religion without science is blind.
Science without religion is useful, religion with science is useless.``
(Albert Einstein / 1879-1955)

``Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.``
(Napoleon Bonaparte / 1769-1821)

``My uniform experience has convinced me that there is no other God than True.``
(Mahatma Gandhi / 1869-1948)

``[The Bible is] a mass of fables and traditions, mere mythology.``
(Mark Twain / 1835-1910 / Mark Twain and the Bible)

``So far as religion of the day is concerned, it is a damned fake... Religion is all bunk.``
(Thomas Edison / 1847-1931)

``Man is certainly stark mad: he cannot make a worm, yet he will make gods by the dozen.``
(Michel de Montaigne / 1533-1592)

``One of the most frightening things in the Western world, and in this country in particular, is the number of people who believe in things that are scientifically false. If someone tells me that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, in my opinion he should see a psychiatrist.``
(Francis Crick / English scientist, Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology, 1962 / 1916-2004)

``The Bible is one of the most genocidal books in history``
(Noam Chomsky / born in 1928)

Re: GT,

I don`t know why that website refers to 2 infinities. It`s besides his point, which he already made, that God cannot do anything that is a contradiction. `Create` and `Infinite mass` already involve contradiction.

Re: # 224 by Tehsinabbasi,

OK,

So SHE is Kali!

#222 by GT

“that the experience is God”

No man! That was no God. Actually it was a Goddess and her name is Kali – and that churrail has enchanted you.

Re: # 222


GT,

shouldn`t you be fortifying yourself with toddy ?............ i don`t think the mexicans have heard of cricket ............ but i do agree that god can be found in breast-cracks resplendent with colors of holi ! .... people just look in all the wrong places ...

.......... go sri lanka ! ....... inspite of what the fool tehsin says about desis neglecting their body and soul (obviously the scrawny chicken has not heard of gama pehalwan), i think they have a pretty good shot ............

Re: # 212 by hamidm2,

Hamid:

It is quite late and the sun is about the set in some time. And I am well forified by 100% agave as Sri Lanka are into the chase (if you do not know what I am talking about, do not worry). You see it is the agave which always tells me that the `rational` world that I live in is stupid (Lahoreviakuwait I wouldn`t listen to her on week days). But today I can`t help but give in. Your friend, the idiot Tehsin, enchants me into the unknown Abida, a voice which reminds me of that breast-crack with colours of Holi and resplendant laughter that I cannot talk about. For it will be classified, by the rationalists, as either sexual desire or `love`. The problem, Hamid, is that it is neither! But, Hamid, do allow me to say that the experience is God. And I shall dutifully ignore Her throughout the week as I shall make money to pay my gardener.

Regards.