Nadeem F Paracha April 30, 2007
#25 Posted by vanguard on May 11, 2007 8:50:23 am
The hockey team got thrown out of Azlan Shah tournament by newbies South Korea. The grapevine has it they were spending too much time practising and no time at all praying.
#24 Posted by ana on May 7, 2007 1:10:44 pm
this was funny! Tau kya hua if this is reiterating a point previously made. Obviously very few if any are getting the point. The horse is still alive. Why flog horses anyway dead or alive? Such beautiful creatures. . .
Thank you NFP, for sharing jo baaqi ``brain cells`` reh gaye haiN. ; )
Thank you NFP, for sharing jo baaqi ``brain cells`` reh gaye haiN. ; )
#23 Posted by fouadmkhan on May 6, 2007 9:51:14 pm
Ok... it`s confirmed... after years of drug abuse NFP now has left no more brain cells than an eighth grader... I mean what was the point of this sophomoric compilation of cliches?
#22 Posted by vanguard on May 2, 2007 7:44:49 am
Re: # 21
But its like flogging a dead horse. He already made a similar point in his earlier post, and everybody else is already saying the same thing on TV, Radio and Newspapers so just to use the `facade` (it does not qualify as a `device`) of a talk show nfp drives home the same point which is being discussed on every other forum.
So a dead horse (inzi, tableeghi) and interview device (flogging) which he also used in his earlier post does not point towards creativity or fresh perspective. Its like just another vent for letting his air out.
But its like flogging a dead horse. He already made a similar point in his earlier post, and everybody else is already saying the same thing on TV, Radio and Newspapers so just to use the `facade` (it does not qualify as a `device`) of a talk show nfp drives home the same point which is being discussed on every other forum.
So a dead horse (inzi, tableeghi) and interview device (flogging) which he also used in his earlier post does not point towards creativity or fresh perspective. Its like just another vent for letting his air out.
#20 Posted by rahul_capri on May 1, 2007 11:06:53 pm
nfp...you are still funny but you seem to have lost the edge..This was very mild.Want more of that caustic psychedelic stuff.
#19 Posted by SaimaShah on May 1, 2007 1:15:05 pm
Re: # 1
You put Mr Paracha`s incredibly creative piece into the category of Mush vs. Mullah. Historically, every Muslim writer has been critical of the Mullah. It is part and parcel of the ethos of being Muslim and liberal. Mush is an accident that has been part of whatever you and I call our culture for hundreds of years. This left liberal, sufi, poet, critical thinker side of Islam had been repressed for a long long time with disastrous consequences for the Muslim world. Please understand!, these liberals are as necessary for your culture to survive as the book around which your morality is hedged. By framing every crisis as US vs. Pakistan, or Mush. vs. Mullah, you discredit your own history.
The Pakistan team is relying far too much on emotion, far too little on rationality--that`s the simple message of NFP`s article. We can get all insecure or we can welcome a little healthy criticism. Faith without rationality does not lead to success.
Regards
S
You put Mr Paracha`s incredibly creative piece into the category of Mush vs. Mullah. Historically, every Muslim writer has been critical of the Mullah. It is part and parcel of the ethos of being Muslim and liberal. Mush is an accident that has been part of whatever you and I call our culture for hundreds of years. This left liberal, sufi, poet, critical thinker side of Islam had been repressed for a long long time with disastrous consequences for the Muslim world. Please understand!, these liberals are as necessary for your culture to survive as the book around which your morality is hedged. By framing every crisis as US vs. Pakistan, or Mush. vs. Mullah, you discredit your own history.
The Pakistan team is relying far too much on emotion, far too little on rationality--that`s the simple message of NFP`s article. We can get all insecure or we can welcome a little healthy criticism. Faith without rationality does not lead to success.
Regards
S
#18 Posted by SaimaShah on May 1, 2007 1:05:30 pm
LOL!!. Good to see NFP still going strong, while the rest have totally given up on critical thinking.
I sometimes think that Pakistan`s greatest export could be religio-spiritual. With such belief and passion, even if Allah died, he will wake up:). In capitalism, there is a market for everything and for all you know the Cricket team may become the greatest evangelists ever born. I am waiting for the day when verses from the Quran will be recited on CNN.
Kuch bhi ho sakta hai, jo bikta woh chalta hai. Wohi sach hai. Yesterday it was consumer durables, tomorrow religion. Be shaq, the market knows best. And critical thinking? The job of leftist liberals who have nothing to sell.
Warm regards
Saima
I sometimes think that Pakistan`s greatest export could be religio-spiritual. With such belief and passion, even if Allah died, he will wake up:). In capitalism, there is a market for everything and for all you know the Cricket team may become the greatest evangelists ever born. I am waiting for the day when verses from the Quran will be recited on CNN.
Kuch bhi ho sakta hai, jo bikta woh chalta hai. Wohi sach hai. Yesterday it was consumer durables, tomorrow religion. Be shaq, the market knows best. And critical thinking? The job of leftist liberals who have nothing to sell.
Warm regards
Saima
#17 Posted by PapuPanwari on May 1, 2007 10:55:35 am
liittle mistake `` im the biggest fan of Nfp ``
#16 Posted by PapuPanwari on May 1, 2007 10:52:18 am
Re: # 12
zeemax may i know to whom you are calling charsi .......
im the biggest fan og Nfp
so please check out what you r saying ..........
i hope you do care next time .....
zeemax may i know to whom you are calling charsi .......
im the biggest fan og Nfp
so please check out what you r saying ..........
i hope you do care next time .....
#15 Posted by HasanMahmood on May 1, 2007 10:27:38 am
Love2love, there is really no point in arguing with this idiot zeemax. Vanguard, I guess you are one of those Mushi haters who love to shout democracy without understanding the true meaning behind it. I guess you want something that bangladesh had for the last oh 20-25 years. If you are a true patriot you will stop shouting democracy and start shouting against nawaz and Benazir. Musharaf might have doen a lot of bad things according to you but he is still much much better than those two idiots. By he way are you trying to tell me that Bhutto and Punjabis had nothing to do with 1971. What happened to the pure majority of Bangalis and their guy becoming Prime Minister which was overturned by the parliament consisting mostly of the Punjabis. It is very easy to blame army for everything but if you look around the only things which are working fine are run by the army. For example: In Karachi Qaid Bagh was built by the Army. The 11 years of democracy did nothing to take care of your founder`s tomb. Even Indian Hindus take care of Taj Mahal built by a muslim leader. You talk about how every institution is down the drain. As a matter of fact I see every facet of life getting better for the people. Less corruption, no more jahil Sindhis sitting on important posts, no more punjabis getting all the foreign scholarships, and acedemia being recognized in Pakistan rather than Abroad. Prices for goods in Pakistan are high not because of Musharaf but because of the looting that took place in thee so-called democracy where our leaders ooted the wealth took loans to pay to keep the prices down. You talk about PIA, KESC and other departments. I guess they were working wonderfully during the democracy. They were not. Actually the only reason you think they were working was because you did not hear about that in the media. Now that thee same media is free you are free to criticize Mushi and his government along with all the ills in the society. Once again, it is very easy to criticize people who actually are doing something for your country. But maybe you will learn that after another 11 years fo Besharam benazir and Nalaiq Nawaz.
You are asking me about Nasim Ashraf but I dont care about him. Nio matter who the leader is the team will never get rid of this tableeghee mentality until we have someone like Imran to head the board. rf has beautifully elaborated on your idiotic illogical statement of ireland beating bangladesh.
You are asking me about Nasim Ashraf but I dont care about him. Nio matter who the leader is the team will never get rid of this tableeghee mentality until we have someone like Imran to head the board. rf has beautifully elaborated on your idiotic illogical statement of ireland beating bangladesh.
#14 Posted by Love2love on May 1, 2007 7:36:56 am
#12 `` It is only about the frustrations of a charsi who couldn`t make it in the media revolution``
zeemax, I think you`ve been away from Pakistan for quite a while. At the moment Paracha is hosting at least two shows on AAJ TV (with Fasi Zaka), and Geo TV and writing for various English publications. Actually he seems to be quite a part of this so-called media revolution, really.
zeemax, I think you`ve been away from Pakistan for quite a while. At the moment Paracha is hosting at least two shows on AAJ TV (with Fasi Zaka), and Geo TV and writing for various English publications. Actually he seems to be quite a part of this so-called media revolution, really.
#13 Posted by rf786 on May 1, 2007 6:48:30 am
Re: # 11
Dear Vanguard,
Ireland beat Bangladesh, and Bangladesh defeated South Africa therefore South Africa was the worst team of this tournament, according to your logic.
There are only 8 test playing nations of some stature and Pakistan is ranked 5th in ODI ranking, that wud Pakistan in the lower quartile that is well below median value. Reason for this dispicable performance was too much praying and too little playing. Had the same players been properly motivated for worldcup event, they sud have beaten West Indies and Ireland, but lost to both. Some say Pakistan threw the WI match and Bob Woolmer had expressed his intention to pull the plug on their illegal activities.
Dear Vanguard,
Ireland beat Bangladesh, and Bangladesh defeated South Africa therefore South Africa was the worst team of this tournament, according to your logic.
There are only 8 test playing nations of some stature and Pakistan is ranked 5th in ODI ranking, that wud Pakistan in the lower quartile that is well below median value. Reason for this dispicable performance was too much praying and too little playing. Had the same players been properly motivated for worldcup event, they sud have beaten West Indies and Ireland, but lost to both. Some say Pakistan threw the WI match and Bob Woolmer had expressed his intention to pull the plug on their illegal activities.
#12 Posted by zeemax on May 1, 2007 2:45:02 am
vanguard,
This article is about nothing. It is only about the frustrations of a charsi who couldn`t make it in the media revolution after writing some ignorant and shallow nonsense about Deep Purple and Pink Floyd in a rag.
This article is about nothing. It is only about the frustrations of a charsi who couldn`t make it in the media revolution after writing some ignorant and shallow nonsense about Deep Purple and Pink Floyd in a rag.
#11 Posted by vanguard on May 1, 2007 12:33:13 am
Re: # 7
We lost to a better team since Ireland won over Bangladesh in the end.
Sham democracy, sham judiciary, sham freedom of expression. The country has been performing so poorly for so long because a democratic system has not been allowed to develop by the army which has ruled the state for more years than either Mullah or politicians. And these talibans, kargil misadventures or others of 1965, 1971 etc were all creation of the army. Had it not been his desperation to gain legitimacy for his rule, Mush would have continued to support the very same terrorists.
But then this article is not about Mush. Its about cricket. You did not ask why Dr. Nasim is chairman of cricket board. His only qualification is that he described Musharraf as `Pariah`. Earlier we had Tauqir Zia whose only accomplishment was gifting valuable national stadium land to Army to build their housing society where they will auction off property in crores.
Sooner or later Musharraf will have to go. Name one institution that is in a better shape since Mush came from KESC, WAPDA, PIA etc. Its only his presence thats keeping the country afloat and it will fall to new depths once he leaves which is something to worry about.
We lost to a better team since Ireland won over Bangladesh in the end.
Sham democracy, sham judiciary, sham freedom of expression. The country has been performing so poorly for so long because a democratic system has not been allowed to develop by the army which has ruled the state for more years than either Mullah or politicians. And these talibans, kargil misadventures or others of 1965, 1971 etc were all creation of the army. Had it not been his desperation to gain legitimacy for his rule, Mush would have continued to support the very same terrorists.
But then this article is not about Mush. Its about cricket. You did not ask why Dr. Nasim is chairman of cricket board. His only qualification is that he described Musharraf as `Pariah`. Earlier we had Tauqir Zia whose only accomplishment was gifting valuable national stadium land to Army to build their housing society where they will auction off property in crores.
Sooner or later Musharraf will have to go. Name one institution that is in a better shape since Mush came from KESC, WAPDA, PIA etc. Its only his presence thats keeping the country afloat and it will fall to new depths once he leaves which is something to worry about.
#10 Posted by PapuPanwari on May 1, 2007 12:01:24 am
splendid work !!!!
especially i like ... ap ko nhi pata and mubling ....itz funny and realistic
nice work
Nfp rocks !!! m the biggest chamcha of Nfp
especially i like ... ap ko nhi pata and mubling ....itz funny and realistic
nice work
Nfp rocks !!! m the biggest chamcha of Nfp
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