Month of the Gun

A good option would be to use the state power to take the illegal arms from the MQM and make them contest elections in Karachi.

State can`t disarm anyone. Best option would be to use non-state actors like the Binoria Jihadis to confront them with better firepower like RPGs etc. Even with small weapons on 12/5, they despatched about a dozen altaf bhayyas from Gurumander to the FB Area qabristan.

Further, to do the real nasty work, haqeeqees should be let loose on them once again with drills and sacks, to be rewarded by a few seats on the Sindh Assembly and perhaps some municipal body like the water & sewerage board.

Re: # 4-You`re sick.Period.

Re: # 37

{A good option would be to use the state power to take the illegal arms from the MQM and make them contest elections in Karachi. They may not win the majority and that will force them to make alliances with the moderate parties working in Karachi}

Take away arms from MQM, ANP, PPI, JI, JUI, PPP, SUNNI, SHIA, TOM, DICK & HARRY.

Which world or planet do u come from? Pakistan is infested with arms, private, public, political, feudal, tribal u name it is armed to its teeth. Thanks to our jihad policies of Jia lul jhak, disarmament is not an option for any single entity cause it will spell their annihilation.

And, who are the ``moderate`` parties working in Karachi/Hyderabad? There are no moderates in Pakistan, those who potray themselves as moderates are doing it as a marketing gimmick to attract foreign assistance.Having said that, if PPP is your moderate then u better go check their feudal poarty offices, all of these leaders have their own private armies.

#36 by shandana
``what would happen to karachi if the mqm is removed? ``

First `removed` is not the right word to use when we know that the MQM certainly had and perhaps still has popular support in Karachi. The alternate in Karachi is even worst. MQm is not an idealogical party and it will compromise with any emerging situation. But the alternate, the religious groups such as the Alqaeda aka Jamaat Islami and the Nabi Ka Jhanda groups are the worst options.

A good option would be to use the state power to take the illegal arms from the MQM and make them contest elections in Karachi. They may not win the majority and that will force them to make alliances with the moderate parties working in Karachi.

i thought this was nfp`s strongest article in a long time. and i fully agree that people need to supress their knee jerk emotional reactions to the mqm right now and try and figure out why it continues to exist and be popular, years after the people who `created` and `supported it` have lost a lost of their clout. do they have fasicst tendencies? hell yeah. are all people who vote for mqm fascist? hell no. take the ji, some argue that they are the most democratic party because their structure of leadership is based on democratic principles rather than a cult of personality, but the vision they pitch is far from democratic. demcratic, fascist, etc etc, these are all meaningless labels that distract us from the real root of the problem, that is the military-mullah-feudal complex. why dont we vent our ire at them as opposed to simply the mqm? najam sethis editorial in tft yesterday asked what would happen to pakistan if musharraf is removed, what would happen to karachi if the mqm is removed?

# 27 (is it by the author?) goes to great lengths in obfuscation but does not provide a clue how Salman Ahmed`s letter is false ...

Re: # 27

`I was a personal witness to all the terrible hue and cry he has so dramatically put down here in this silly little letter of his (I spend a lot of time with him and Junoon in the early `90s).`

So yet again paracha was a `personal` witness to some BS that he is unable to give direct account of.. and derails into some deep seated angst.

It must hurt to be talentless while being surrounded by celebrity and talent and still be irrelevant..

Also the logic of `if MQM is fascist, so is 70% of Karachi` is best answered by Stanley Milgram`s attempts to find something wrong in the German people by his social psycological experiments in the 60s.

paratha does so have talent just not the thumka marring talent of Salman or the mullah shaggings of Imran yahoodi jins :)

zeemax yaar why spoil a nicely turned phrase? :(

Karachi May 12, 2007
Inert middle-class of Pakistan: ``This is madness!!!``
NFP: ``THIS IS KARAAAAACCH*pant pant smokers cough*IIIIIIII !!!!!

Why is this Paratha against anybody and everybody with a day Job. He hates Inzi cause he has an actual profession and doesnt need his wife to not only work to support the household but also to use her acquaintances to get him a job, from where he gets fired for coming to work high, sounds fimiliar Paratha? Now he has a beef with Imran, JJ, Salman and everyone who has talent of any sort. Too bad smoking weed is not a cashable trait otherwise Paratha would give Bill Gates a run for his money.

May be this article is only for karachites to understand. Please tell me what is about karachi that requires terrorists like MQM to be there? Does Karachi ask for blood periodically? Why it is necessary to hate non-urdu speaking in karachi? Why do you have to follow that psycho terrorist Altaf who doesnt even know how to speak? I am clueless, I though karachites wants to be liberated from terror/bhatta of MQM but this article confused me.

Cliftonbridge,

How does `Ninjushtoons` sound? Probably not as good as `Ninjabis` but it`s the fact :)

Tazeen,

Living here is an acquired taste and when you get used to it, there is absolutely nothing like it.

Can you teach me how one acquires a taste for no water, no electricity for 8-10 out of 24 hours, not being able to carry your cellphone openly in the street for fear of it being snatched, and being scared to death while stopping at traffic crossings for thugs to put a gun to your temple? Where roads remain dug up for months because progress payments are stopped to contractors till bhatta is paid to the city administration? All during the MQM`s (democratic) Sindh Government?

Oh I see ... it must be Punjab`s `saazish` :)

Since he belongs to my generation, allow me to suggest, (nay, insist), that Mr. Ahmed is one of the most audacious hypocrite I have come across.

I was a personal witness to all the terrible hue and cry he has so dramatically put down here in this silly little letter of his (I spend a lot of time with him and Junoon in the early `90s).

It was never so serious as he makes it out to be, because rest assured, had it been as bad, Mr. Ahmed would have migrated to the US long ago and not only a few years ago when his cash cow, Junoon, plummeted in popularity.

Mr. Ahmed has never had a mind of his own. All of his ideas about politics and society have always stemmed from what comes out from Mr. Imran Khan`s own self-contradictory brain. His ex-colleague (in the Vital Signs), Rohail Hayaat had a term for Salman. He used to call it (Salman going into his) “Imran Khan complex.”
This was way back in the late 80s.

In 1995, Salman became an enthusiastic supporter of the anti-Benazir lobby that Hamid Gul created along-with Imran Khan. This is the same lobby which also approached Abdus Sattar Eidhi but was rebuffed by the great charity worker who criticized the lobby for being “reactionary” and “anti-democracy.”

In 1996, after Salman very conveniently and cleverly used the Benazir Bhutto`s “liberal” cultural atmosphere to make Junoon a leading part of the former PTV MD, Rana Shaikh`s high profile circus, he suddenly went all gung-ho about the said lobby`s reactionary agenda (in the name of “political accountability”), and actually used his band to come up with a song called “Ehatesaab” which actually worked as a campaign song for the lobby and later for Imran Khan`s Thareek-e-Insaaf Party.

There was also news that Salman (like Imran) was so sure about Imran`s victory in the 1997 elections that he thought that Imran will make him a Minister of Culture in his cabinet.

After the fall of the Banazir Bhutto government, Salman openly supported the new Nawaz Sharif government, but soon reversed his support after the Sharif government raised objections about Junoon touring so often in India.

Like Imran, Salman was a front line applauder of the Musharraf dictatorship and even when Imran reversed his support, Salman continued to support Musharraf.

PTV sometimes still shows 2003 a video of Junoon playing Jazba-e-Junoon for and with Musharraf at a concert in Islamabad.

Salman (like Imran) is a spectacular example of self-contradiction and the kind of vain, self-righteous and pompous upper-middle-class right-wing hog-wash most urban Re-born religious folks usually suffer from.

If he has the balls, he should come back to Karachi and take up the terrible suffering his family suffered at the hands of MQM, instead of using Imran Khan`s long-standing and chauvinistic anti-Karachi paranoia.

_ NfP

Dear NFP,

Thank you for surrealizing the term `fascist`. Perhaps we need to give a right of expressing the violent streak to all groups (inlcuding ijt and army) whenever they see a situation where they find thier turf being attacked by other groups.

This is what Salman Ahmed whom you vehemently promoted during those early days of the Generation X has to say about mqm.

Junoon artiste says he was threatened by MQM activists

WASHINGTON: Salman Ahmed of rock group Junoon has said the MQM once threatened him that if he did not perform at its rally, his wife and children would be abducted. In a statement issued here, Ahmed described the incident as having happened in 1992. He said, “They have threatened me on many occasions in the past 15 years. One particular time was when I refused to perform at Altaf’s marriage function in Karachi and London where all other artists, including Ali Azmat, were brow beaten into going and performing for ‘his majesty’s’ pleasure. The man who threatened me was called ‘Khalid bin Walid’ and was a known terrorist and murderer.” Walid apparently told Salman Ahmed that his “Quaid” Altaf Hussain had specially demanded that he appear with Junoon to perform at his wedding. When the singer refused, the man called the singer’s staff and soundman, Ishtiaq Ahmed, and threatened them with dire consequences. According to Salman Ahmed, “Ishtiaq pleaded with me to go and perform or risk being killed. In 1992, the MQM also threatened to abduct my wife and children if I did not show up at an MQM rally to welcome their leader, Azim Tariq.” khalid hasan

Daily Times, 30 May 07

What every One missed , is the Punch Line..... written somewhere , where normally the punch lines are not written...and it is..


`` ethnic paranoia characterised by a persecution complex ``.


thats the basis.


the Dream of 47, was not for some cocoked up, cocept of Ummah, or for a new concept of some thing called Pakistaniat.

it was for the revival of the , mughal empire, though cloaked in religio-political , concept of two nation theory., and muslim state...... Period.

and till the 70`s the sailing was smooth, without hinderence,every thing in the Bag ...except for a lonely, so called ethinic roits , allegedly initiated by Gauher Ayub...... which , I forgot the Name of the Polish Researcher, were actually between the pre-dominately ethnic Land Mafias of Pathan and Urdu origins, in the Federal `A` , `B` and `C` areas of Karachi....and now for scoring brownies, one upship in defence arguments , painted as ethinic roits.


... things turned sour , when a Sindhi PM, tried to bring a sembalance to the imbalance in power sharing.......and cut deep, deep not only in the traditional BABU Occupation,this livelyhood, bread and butter, but also in the REAL POWER Structure , holding Pakistan for Ransom.


and this is that real reason of what NFP has called.


`` ethnic paranoia characterised by a persecution complex ``


the Basis of all........ Period.