Nadeem F Paracha May 31, 2007
#168 Posted by zeemax on June 6, 2007 11:11:03 am
#167 by Salim_Chauhan,
Excellent. Is that all you`ve got left to say? Just abuse?
What Edhi is saying that even randis give him donations but karachiites don`t.
Excellent. Is that all you`ve got left to say? Just abuse?
What Edhi is saying that even randis give him donations but karachiites don`t.
#167 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 6, 2007 11:04:22 am
#166 Zeemux quoting Eidhi {``Mujhe to RANDI bhi chanda deti he ... 90 fi sad chanda punjab se haasil hota he.``}
Zeemax,
You didn`t tell us that 90% of the donations come from your sister. That does NOT mean that ALL of Punjab is generous.
Zeemax,
You didn`t tell us that 90% of the donations come from your sister. That does NOT mean that ALL of Punjab is generous.
#166 Posted by zeemax on June 6, 2007 10:06:28 am
#165 by Salim_Chauhan/ some other nonsense by baji tazeen:
Abey ... is this your generosity?

(From last week`s Daily Jang Sunday Magazine)
In case you can`t read Urdu, what this great karachiwalla Edhi is saying is that 90% of his donations come from Punjab and the Punjabis are very big-hearted donors, and when he`s told that Punjab is a big nation, he tells them that fine you`re a small nation but at-least donate that much according to that ratio ....
Now go and tell me Abdus Sattar Edhi is lying ...
You altaphi bhayyas and bajis are all liars, rodents and miscellaneous types of criminals and pests. All you do is hijack Edhi ambulances to transport arms and kill his drivers.
Abey ... is this your generosity?

(From last week`s Daily Jang Sunday Magazine)
In case you can`t read Urdu, what this great karachiwalla Edhi is saying is that 90% of his donations come from Punjab and the Punjabis are very big-hearted donors, and when he`s told that Punjab is a big nation, he tells them that fine you`re a small nation but at-least donate that much according to that ratio ....
Now go and tell me Abdus Sattar Edhi is lying ...
You altaphi bhayyas and bajis are all liars, rodents and miscellaneous types of criminals and pests. All you do is hijack Edhi ambulances to transport arms and kill his drivers.
#165 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 6, 2007 8:37:10 am
Zeemax #160 {``Tazeen,
I must admit I am thoroughly disappointed firstly by your blind communalism and secondly by your sheer ignorance. I thought you were an informed journalist. Now it appears you`re just another ignorant clown on Chowk of the likes of Salim Chauhan, rf786 and hassauriwala etc. ``}
Zeemux,
So, if, as Urdu-speaking Mohajirs, we differ from your racist, bigoted, and unjustified Paindoo behavior, we are all ``ignorant clowns?`` I am proud to be in the company of informed and patriotic people like Tazeen, Bismillah Bhai, and Hassauriwala. As long as you are in the opposite camp, I think we will prevail. Just your name is enough. :)
I must admit I am thoroughly disappointed firstly by your blind communalism and secondly by your sheer ignorance. I thought you were an informed journalist. Now it appears you`re just another ignorant clown on Chowk of the likes of Salim Chauhan, rf786 and hassauriwala etc. ``}
Zeemux,
So, if, as Urdu-speaking Mohajirs, we differ from your racist, bigoted, and unjustified Paindoo behavior, we are all ``ignorant clowns?`` I am proud to be in the company of informed and patriotic people like Tazeen, Bismillah Bhai, and Hassauriwala. As long as you are in the opposite camp, I think we will prevail. Just your name is enough. :)
#164 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 6, 2007 8:34:44 am
Tazeen #154 {``Every Ramazan trainload of beggers come to Karachi to beg from Punjab as we are the most generous people in Pakistan (remember who donated most during the 2005 earthquake, definitely not the punjos from lahore). ``}
Tazeen,
Very well said. While Urdu-speaking people normally do not brag about our generosity, this fact has to be hammered into the thick skulls of these Paindoos. Good job.
Although, Karachiites cannot behave differently due to our altruistic nature, the next time we need to conserve our contributions and be a bit more selective - why give aid to people who hate us, why nourish people who, when they get healthy, want to kill us or worse, become suicide bombers in our cities? Our charity is better spent on helping the poor, unfortunate stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh. My wife and I spent many days and sent a lot of money and goods for the earthquake relief. After seeing the Punju behavior here on Chowk, I will never repeat that mistake. From now on, I care only for Urdu-speaking Mohajirs.
Tazeen,
Very well said. While Urdu-speaking people normally do not brag about our generosity, this fact has to be hammered into the thick skulls of these Paindoos. Good job.
Although, Karachiites cannot behave differently due to our altruistic nature, the next time we need to conserve our contributions and be a bit more selective - why give aid to people who hate us, why nourish people who, when they get healthy, want to kill us or worse, become suicide bombers in our cities? Our charity is better spent on helping the poor, unfortunate stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh. My wife and I spent many days and sent a lot of money and goods for the earthquake relief. After seeing the Punju behavior here on Chowk, I will never repeat that mistake. From now on, I care only for Urdu-speaking Mohajirs.
#163 Posted by zeemax on June 6, 2007 7:07:52 am
#161 by rf786,
The question was posed to this ahmaq tazeen. You have already been beaten down in your ignorant claim-rants.
But I suspect it isn`t tazeen`s fault she believes nonsense like that. These are the kind of lies that feed the communalism of altafi bhayyas and bajis.
The question was posed to this ahmaq tazeen. You have already been beaten down in your ignorant claim-rants.
But I suspect it isn`t tazeen`s fault she believes nonsense like that. These are the kind of lies that feed the communalism of altafi bhayyas and bajis.
#162 Posted by Zeena on June 6, 2007 7:00:33 am
[[[#153 by Tazeen on June 6, 2007 4:09am PT
Re: # 137
I hate tribal, clan-based and ethnic politics ]]]]
Tazeen
Oh, so you are another MQM waalii......What`s MQM? MQM is another mafia, killing innocent Pakistani Karachiits on the streets like yazeed...And their dirty and brutal politics is the only one that you love......
Yes, it shows from your retarded interactions.............you and your mqm hate every Pakistani..........just think about it......but, you won`t.........
b/c thinking is NOT allowed in MQM.....just killing innocent Pakistanis (who are NOT mqm) is allowed....
Your MQM is totally based on ehnicity, Mohajir movement, your MQM is totally based on clan-based(mohajir-based)..............and then Mafia based.....
Your MQM is fascist and fundamentalist butchers and still you hate everything else which is Pakistani.....
This is a perfect example of double standards...........
Your altaf is a psychopath killer and still you hate other Pakistanis.......
Sorry, you are contradicting your own self....
MQM is totally clan-based and ethnic based fascist party.......Just think about it.
But, sorry thinking is not allowed in MQM, only butchring innocent Pakistani Karachiits(who are not MQM`s clan) is allowed..............
Supporting MQM for it`s clan-based and ethnic based politics is OK for you.............wawawa
supporting mqm for killing innocent Pakistani Karachiits is OK for you......wawawawa
Re: # 137
I hate tribal, clan-based and ethnic politics ]]]]
Tazeen
Oh, so you are another MQM waalii......What`s MQM? MQM is another mafia, killing innocent Pakistani Karachiits on the streets like yazeed...And their dirty and brutal politics is the only one that you love......
Yes, it shows from your retarded interactions.............you and your mqm hate every Pakistani..........just think about it......but, you won`t.........
b/c thinking is NOT allowed in MQM.....just killing innocent Pakistanis (who are NOT mqm) is allowed....
Your MQM is totally based on ehnicity, Mohajir movement, your MQM is totally based on clan-based(mohajir-based)..............and then Mafia based.....
Your MQM is fascist and fundamentalist butchers and still you hate everything else which is Pakistani.....
This is a perfect example of double standards...........
Your altaf is a psychopath killer and still you hate other Pakistanis.......
Sorry, you are contradicting your own self....
MQM is totally clan-based and ethnic based fascist party.......Just think about it.
But, sorry thinking is not allowed in MQM, only butchring innocent Pakistani Karachiits(who are not MQM`s clan) is allowed..............
Supporting MQM for it`s clan-based and ethnic based politics is OK for you.............wawawa
supporting mqm for killing innocent Pakistani Karachiits is OK for you......wawawawa
#161 Posted by rf786 on June 6, 2007 6:37:17 am
Re: # 160
{You say ``Karachi generates 70 per cent of the GDP``. I say you`re lying and the entire three provinces combined do not produce as much as Punjab. Where did you get this figure? I thought I had finished beating people down on stats}
Abay chal yahan sey, on the contraire Mr dumbass, u have been exposed thoroughly and proven wrong categorically. So shove off and leave this high emperor drama shrama as they wud say, buzz off.
{You say ``Karachi generates 70 per cent of the GDP``. I say you`re lying and the entire three provinces combined do not produce as much as Punjab. Where did you get this figure? I thought I had finished beating people down on stats}
Abay chal yahan sey, on the contraire Mr dumbass, u have been exposed thoroughly and proven wrong categorically. So shove off and leave this high emperor drama shrama as they wud say, buzz off.
#160 Posted by zeemax on June 6, 2007 6:30:42 am
Tazeen,
I must admit I am thoroughly disappointed firstly by your blind communalism and secondly by your sheer ignorance. I thought you were an informed journalist. Now it appears you`re just another ignorant clown on Chowk of the likes of Salim Chauhan, rf786 and hassauriwala etc.
You say ``Karachi generates 70 per cent of the GDP``. I say you`re lying and the entire three provinces combined do not produce as much as Punjab. Where did you get this figure? I thought I had finished beating people down on stats and now you start ...
Please defend your statement and prove me wrong ...
I must admit I am thoroughly disappointed firstly by your blind communalism and secondly by your sheer ignorance. I thought you were an informed journalist. Now it appears you`re just another ignorant clown on Chowk of the likes of Salim Chauhan, rf786 and hassauriwala etc.
You say ``Karachi generates 70 per cent of the GDP``. I say you`re lying and the entire three provinces combined do not produce as much as Punjab. Where did you get this figure? I thought I had finished beating people down on stats and now you start ...
Please defend your statement and prove me wrong ...
#159 Posted by rf786 on June 6, 2007 6:28:37 am
Re: # 154
where were u all this time? As I was reading your post, title music for Bonanza was getting louder and louder, and yes Iam that old, then again this was a great post...............thanks
where were u all this time? As I was reading your post, title music for Bonanza was getting louder and louder, and yes Iam that old, then again this was a great post...............thanks
#158 Posted by Tazeen on June 6, 2007 5:18:40 am
Re: # 156
can you contact me via email ... its on my profile
can you contact me via email ... its on my profile
#157 Posted by Tazeen on June 6, 2007 5:11:40 am
Re: # 156
if i had that much farigh time, i would rather watch Salman Khan strutting his stuff, not the born-again-after-sowing-my-wild-oats-mullah Imran Khan.
PS: Unlike some other people who live off chowk, I have to earn my living by honest work.
if i had that much farigh time, i would rather watch Salman Khan strutting his stuff, not the born-again-after-sowing-my-wild-oats-mullah Imran Khan.
PS: Unlike some other people who live off chowk, I have to earn my living by honest work.
#156 Posted by Love2love on June 6, 2007 4:57:38 am
Don`t worry Tazeen, Jesus, I mean, Imran Khan will save us all. As zeena says, ``just listen.`` In that case, may as well listen to Gen. Hamid Gul too. ;) And, of course, you too can surf Ytube looking for some more Immy speechs.
#154 Posted by Tazeen on June 6, 2007 4:43:37 am
Re: # 28
the response is late as i was away from chowk.
Yes, it indeed is an acquired taste. After all, where else in Pakistan could I have lived my entire life and still would not have been groped, molested and mauled in some way or the other. I drove from work as late as 3.00 am after putting the newspaper to print and was never hassled, I covered political rallies but was never pinched in the ass in the crowd of 100,000, but every time I go to say Lahore or Faisalabad, I get pinched and get to hear the most X-rated comments. The only time my purse was snatched was in .... Rawalpindii during the govt of Bharee mandate nawaz shareef.
If Karachi is so bad then why is it the single most migrated city in Pakistan, why dont people go and start living in Sialkot or Multan? Everyday, more and more people come to Karachi from NWFP and Punjab, why dont they go to Lahore.
Every Ramazan trainload of beggers come to Karachi to beg from Punjab as we are the most generous people in Pakistan (remember who donated most during the 2005 earthquake, definitely not the punjos from lahore).
Yes, we have bijli breakdowns and that is because of the bijli stealing and land grabbing people who come from the north and wreak havoc with the limited civic amenities. We on the other hand, buy land and build houses and pay property taxes, water taxes and additional taxes on electricity to feed the begger from the North.
Yes, we are the ones who are feeding the poor from Punjab and NWFP who run away from their own lands as the rich and powerful there colonize their own people.
We are the only city with a sizeable and educated middle class, living here is indeed and acquired taste ....
bandar kiya janay adrak ka sawad
the response is late as i was away from chowk.
Yes, it indeed is an acquired taste. After all, where else in Pakistan could I have lived my entire life and still would not have been groped, molested and mauled in some way or the other. I drove from work as late as 3.00 am after putting the newspaper to print and was never hassled, I covered political rallies but was never pinched in the ass in the crowd of 100,000, but every time I go to say Lahore or Faisalabad, I get pinched and get to hear the most X-rated comments. The only time my purse was snatched was in .... Rawalpindii during the govt of Bharee mandate nawaz shareef.
If Karachi is so bad then why is it the single most migrated city in Pakistan, why dont people go and start living in Sialkot or Multan? Everyday, more and more people come to Karachi from NWFP and Punjab, why dont they go to Lahore.
Every Ramazan trainload of beggers come to Karachi to beg from Punjab as we are the most generous people in Pakistan (remember who donated most during the 2005 earthquake, definitely not the punjos from lahore).
Yes, we have bijli breakdowns and that is because of the bijli stealing and land grabbing people who come from the north and wreak havoc with the limited civic amenities. We on the other hand, buy land and build houses and pay property taxes, water taxes and additional taxes on electricity to feed the begger from the North.
Yes, we are the ones who are feeding the poor from Punjab and NWFP who run away from their own lands as the rich and powerful there colonize their own people.
We are the only city with a sizeable and educated middle class, living here is indeed and acquired taste ....
bandar kiya janay adrak ka sawad
#153 Posted by Tazeen on June 6, 2007 4:09:28 am
Re: # 137
I hate tribal, clan-based and ethnic politics (its so last century) and could never understood the almost god-like power Altaf Hussein wielded (remember how he made his followers stop smoking and how he encouraged boys to marry girls raped by Pathan men in 1980s) over the most educated and metropolitan group of people in Pakistan, until now. This almost pathological hatred emanating from the non-Urdu speaking intelligentsia spearheaded by that moron Imran Khan (thought he can never be classified as intelligent) against every Urdu speaking individual (irrespective of their political affiliations) is the reason why educated and intelligent people chose MQM over every other party. It gave them a sense of belonging to a city, a province where they were refugees, even after 40 years. The way OUR generation claims Karachi to be our city, our parents could never and still don’t own this place despite living all their lives here. I dont see anyone from my generation saying the we are mohajirs, we are Karachiites and most of all, we are NOT apologetic about not beings sons and daughters of the soil; we take pride in making the soil ours, by sheer tenacity, attitude and doggedness. In some way or the other, MQM is responsible for bringing about that change.
It is the audacity with which we Karachiites proclaim that this is our city does hit a raw nerve or two. Maybe the idea that this city belongs to the people who contribute to it rather than the colonists from the North who loot and plunder (Karachi generates 70 per cent of the GDP and what do we get in return ???), is hard to accept for the people who use and abuse the city but never really cared.
NFP was right on money when he said that if MQM is fascist, then all the people who have voted them into assemblies again and again are fascist. Politics of ostracism are passé, but as we, Pakistanis, have never learned from the past mistakes (see what happened when Int. community ostracized Taleban), we will continue to do so.
About the deaths of thousands of Karachiites in 1980s and 1990s, I saw Fauzia Wahab (PPP`s information secretary) on TV the other day and she refused point blank that those deaths were something akin to ethnic cleansing and said that all those who died were terrorists, when the host Mujahid Barelvi asked about the children who died, she first refused to believe that children died but later reluctantly relented and said, there may have been a couple of casualties but it was all ``collateral damage`` for a greater cause. Looks like someone is impressed with good ol` Madeline Albright and her love for the term ``collateral damage.``
God Bless the City of lights and the people (all people) who it belong to.
I think I have ranted enough for the day.
I hate tribal, clan-based and ethnic politics (its so last century) and could never understood the almost god-like power Altaf Hussein wielded (remember how he made his followers stop smoking and how he encouraged boys to marry girls raped by Pathan men in 1980s) over the most educated and metropolitan group of people in Pakistan, until now. This almost pathological hatred emanating from the non-Urdu speaking intelligentsia spearheaded by that moron Imran Khan (thought he can never be classified as intelligent) against every Urdu speaking individual (irrespective of their political affiliations) is the reason why educated and intelligent people chose MQM over every other party. It gave them a sense of belonging to a city, a province where they were refugees, even after 40 years. The way OUR generation claims Karachi to be our city, our parents could never and still don’t own this place despite living all their lives here. I dont see anyone from my generation saying the we are mohajirs, we are Karachiites and most of all, we are NOT apologetic about not beings sons and daughters of the soil; we take pride in making the soil ours, by sheer tenacity, attitude and doggedness. In some way or the other, MQM is responsible for bringing about that change.
It is the audacity with which we Karachiites proclaim that this is our city does hit a raw nerve or two. Maybe the idea that this city belongs to the people who contribute to it rather than the colonists from the North who loot and plunder (Karachi generates 70 per cent of the GDP and what do we get in return ???), is hard to accept for the people who use and abuse the city but never really cared.
NFP was right on money when he said that if MQM is fascist, then all the people who have voted them into assemblies again and again are fascist. Politics of ostracism are passé, but as we, Pakistanis, have never learned from the past mistakes (see what happened when Int. community ostracized Taleban), we will continue to do so.
About the deaths of thousands of Karachiites in 1980s and 1990s, I saw Fauzia Wahab (PPP`s information secretary) on TV the other day and she refused point blank that those deaths were something akin to ethnic cleansing and said that all those who died were terrorists, when the host Mujahid Barelvi asked about the children who died, she first refused to believe that children died but later reluctantly relented and said, there may have been a couple of casualties but it was all ``collateral damage`` for a greater cause. Looks like someone is impressed with good ol` Madeline Albright and her love for the term ``collateral damage.``
God Bless the City of lights and the people (all people) who it belong to.
I think I have ranted enough for the day.
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