Eyewitness: Karachi, May 12, 2007

mai iak anparh sa adni hoon mai to bas yahi kahoon ga kai ye log jo mqm ki himayat kar rahai hai ye to bohat chottti cheeze hain agar allah bhi kahai kai mqm 12 may kai wakia mai malawis nahi to mai nahi manoo ga kio kai mai nai apni ankhaoon sai mqm ki dahshat gardi dakhi hai.or un logoon kai lia jo mqm ki wakalat kar rahai hain mai ye dua daita hoon ki un kai piyaray bhi kabhi isis tarha sarkoon par marai jain. tab un ko pata chaly ga

This shows what Beena Ji really is. Just another pro wanting BB to rule the poor and loot Pakistan. Beena Ji if you are a journalist write about the Surrey Palace.
What a fake...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/beena-issues/message/825

She is nothing but a PPP chamaar....

Beena Ji, before you write articles without any proofs just because the tide has turned, stop and ask yourself ``do you call yourself a journalist or a prostitute sitting on the corner of PP Street and Mullah Corner.
Right away your remark “Here in Karachi, we avoid ‘name calling’ and ‘finger pointing’ due to fear of having our knees drilled…” is an asinine comment and this from a Harvard graduate (What a pity). I urge you to go to Karachi and visit E-23 at Karachi University Campus and ask for the faily to talk about their young son who was killed in 1990. He used to study at Urdu College and his body was found with his knees drilled and cigarette burns all over his body. Oh and his chest was ripped wide open and the stuff removed. People could not see the body because of the mutilation. The real laugher was that the people who actually did that belonged to your beloved BBs party. The dead was an MQM member.Now before you write other idiotic articles ask yourself. Is it better to actually do some leg work and find out the facts or is it just easier to write words without any basis. So Beena ji, people were certainly scared of drilling but actually they were scared from PPP. Go and find out. Who introduced weapons in Karachi. I can actually give you some names. Also, ask why after all this hatred and you becoming a mouthpiece of PPP and MMA, will anything happen to MQM. The answer is nothing. because mohajirs like me know MQMs shortcomings and still believe in it rather than your BB and Nawaz. And by the way, if you talk about MQm then dont forget about the Jiye Sindh murderers who killed millions of innocent mohajirs. I truly believe that Chowk has become a voice for PPP wanna-bes and Musharaf-haters. There is just no rhyme or reason to the articles or for that matter the posts. People, Imran will not become the prime minister for the next 15 years. Nawaz and BB will never come to Pakistan until Musharaf invites them. And yes Musharaf will win the next election and MQM will again get the same number of seats. So there is no use vehemently denying the fact. People like Zeemax are cockroaches. No matter how hard you try to get rid of them, they keep coming back. The only thin I can say about zeemax is ``read his other posts people. You will automaticallly start ignoring him``. By answering him, you are just asking for trouble without any logic.

First of all Zeena, I will vote for Imran Khan for national elections next time around. However, you are currently qouting a party newsletter which has 1 yes exactly 1 seat in NA. Secondly, Tehreek-e-Insaaf is completely wrong. I am not telling all of you to agree with me or for tohers to leave their PPP mentality behind but MQM was NEVER the first one to introduce guns etc. It was the Jamaat-e-Islami, PSA(Punjab Student Association) and then PPP in Karachi. Most of them got theser weapons from Afghanistan where they went in the name of Jihad during Zia`s era. I still remember the days when PPP and MMA people used to harrass every student and I still remember the time when all of them had TTs under their belts.
Once again I hate Altaf Hussain and what he stand for but I know one thing. Without MQM, Karachi will be ruled, then looted and plundered, and then finally raped by the punjabis and mullahs. If you dont agree then look at the history (during late 1980s). There is a reason why MQM gets majority of votes and please dont tell me that it is because people are scared. Every opposition party says that. Or better yet ask Zeemax ( as he was in the army) as to what he was doing when Benazir ordered mass murder of young men or when during Karachi operation, infants were thrown into fire. (by the way I still have that video on a tape if any PPP lover wants to see it).
Your post and this thereek-e-Insaaf rubbish is why people refuse to see the truth. I am not a believer of Altaf Hussain. I think he is an idiot. But just ask yourself one question? Why are all thee punjabis so scared of him? The answer is because that idiot and MQM are the only things standing between them and Karachi. I dont care about Altaf and I think he should go but MQM is the only thing saving us from Sindh becoming another Baluchistan under these paindoos.

From the board of Pakistan tehreek-e-Insaf.com

[[[i came across an audio tape recorded on 1987, in which altaf of mqm says: ``mahajiro! aslah kharido aslah, tv vcr chhoro, aslah kharido``. mqm is first organization of its kind in pakistan, which started its activities on the basis of smuggled arms. thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the terrorists of this organization. mqm`s terrorists are trained in bharat by bharti army. the same bharti army once trained mukti bahini of east pakistan. i read a news story in an old news paper of 1987, in which a pashto speaking muslim was ziped with iron belts and then blown up alive by throwing petrol and then fire. innocent poor pashtoon was requesting: `` please kill me with gun, but please do not blow me up`` mqm`s terrorists were laghing and taunting at the cry of that pashtoon. just imagine the scene in your dreams. mqm has killed thousands and thousands of innocent muslims like that. this is just one single example. any pakistani who believes in quran and our innocent prophet (pbuh) will always hate this terrorist mqm. mqm has purchased millions of dollars of armory from afghan war lords in 1980s. but underground members of zia`s govt like aslam baig and pervaiz musharraf provided full support to this terrorist organization. they had organized fake fights between panjabis,sindhis,pashtoons and urdu speaking community just to strengthen terrorist mqm. whenever see a mqm member just remember these events. these members represent those terrorists,who have unromovable spots of blood on their faces. just always remember it. if you support mqm, it means you support killers, murderers, and remember our prophet (pbuh) never support murderers. please choose the prophet`s way(pbuh). thank you.]]]]
www.tehreek-e-insaaf.com

#88 dr_h {``Do you realize that through the use of the term ``Paki Punju Paindoo feudals`` you`re alienating many fellow Pakistanis? Or do you just not care?

I doubt there are people who`d feel `hurt` by such terms being thrown on a website that may not hold very much significance. But I am quite sure, that this will adversely affect many`s view of the Urdu speaking community. I doubt you care, but let it be known anyhow.``}

Dr Sahib,
Of course I care. That is why I am using Paki Punju Paindoo in retaliation to all the PPP Chowkies on FP and some on UP who have used terms such as ``Muttarwa, Paan-chewing Bhayyas, HindustaaNRas, PanahGuzeer, and worse - dealing with the peculiarly Punjabi passion for others` mothers and sisters. :) I am sorry that some innocent Punjabis` feelings get hurt, but you must admit that ``getting hurt`` is a lot more tolerable than getting oppressed, looted, burned, and killed. Sorry. :( As the majority population in Pakistan, it is up to the Punjabis to ensure that they don`t frighten and alienate the minorities into disloyalty and worse.

#88 by dr_h,

That`s good advice. I don`t see how it is in the interest of Urdu speaking people to turn loyalty to a linguistic party, whom the rest of the country considers criminal, into a communal issue.

After all, they`re just forcing communalism on 92.5% of the country`s population (total Urdu-speaking population being just 7.5%) whom not only do not wish to become so, but also against the wishes and interests of the Urdu-Speaking people who do not support MQM.

It all appears so juvenile to me.

Re: # 87

Do you realize that through the use of the term ``Paki Punju Paindoo feudals`` you`re alienating many fellow Pakistanis? Or do you just not care?

I doubt there are people who`d feel `hurt` by such terms being thrown on a website that may not hold very much significance. But I am quite sure, that this will adversely affect many`s view of the Urdu speaking community. I doubt you care, but let it be known anyhow.

#82 Hassauriwala,
I read your detailed post very carefully. It is a very well articulated and fact-based enumeration of the duplicity, bigotry, and hypocrisy of the Paki Punju Paindoo feudals and their minions on Chowk. I am going to post your points on Chowk UP for a discussion of the facts you presented. One minor point, I still disagree with your wish to have Zeemax banned. Instead, I propose that we stuff these points up all of his cavities until every one of the points is driven home to this idiot.

Thanks,

#78-82 (minus #81)

Hmm ... muttarwa tails on fire ... and the RPGs haven`t even started yet ... :)

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Re: # 78

Hi Saleem,

Thanks for your compliments. The pleasure is all mine brother . It may be fun destroying zeemax again here but I still think he needs to be banned.

The reason is that whatever he says is nothing new . The crimes that he wants to commit on fellow Muslims and Pakistanis have been committed before which is why a retard like zeemax is able to ``articulate`` his desires. I do not think these criminals have any right to identify themselves with Islam or Pakistan. You saw in his own posts that he was trying to shore up the feudal Jurassic corrupt nymphomaniac case against MQM by referring to Benazir Bhutto, Beena Sarwar and possibly Abida Hussain. When he lost on that front he tried to make the ``jihadi`` case against MQM by referring to an imaginary clash between MQM and Binoria Town students which in his ``haqiqi`` mind occurred on Guru Mandir although if you had seen the aaj tv clip the direction of the firing was not from Binoria Town mosque never mind his addressing me as ``sir`` and offering his third-class version of facts .

Do you see that I am painting the picture of a feudal psycho who is desperate to get the MQM which he views as a threat and if Benazir could not get MQM then he tries to spin stories of jihadis who did.

All this while however, I have managed to expose his murderous acts in a number of ways by zeemax`s

1. by admitting to the mass-murder of MQM workers by the haqiqis with the backing of the feudal Army in 1992

2. by admitting to custodial killings and fake encounters in 1994

3. by asking for peace when he was soundly thrashed in the argument just like the great feudal army hero General Tiger Niazi ( what a DELUDED retard)

4. by admitting at least in part to the killings of MQM workers in 12 May 07

5. by asking for armed confrontation with MQM instead of electoral change and displaying his thirst for Karachiites` blood

6. by singing the praise of Dr Qadir Magsi who is the first named accused in the Hyderabad massacre of 30 Sep 1988 in which more than 250 people died

7. by trying to confuse his inhumane and vile corrupt feudal cause with the jihadi cause.

I too would have wanted to argue with him and thrash him too except that what this animal exhibits is the attitude of those who committed heinous crimes against Islam, Pakistan and humanity in East Pakistan in 1971 and in Karachi from 1992-9.

The reason why criminals such as Generals ``Tiger`` Niazi, Tikka Khan, Yahya Khan, Asif Nawaz and Naseer Akhter were never punished in Pakistan is why a low-life like zeemax can come on to this board and brag about the innocent people he has killed and want to kill some more. Do you realise ? That is why I think he should be banned.

In a country like Pakistan where nobody has dared to even question the truncation of the majority half of the country in 1971, or even dared to raise their voice about the crimes inflicted upon the Bengali- and Urdu-speaking population by the feudal Army, the Mukti Bahni (and the Indian Army when they got their chance) respectively , in the camps of Bangladesh where half a million human beings live since 1971 in sub-human conditions and get humiliated for identifying themselves with Pakistan these feudal swine are blaming MQM for the death of the 42 people on 12 May 2007 which no doubt were tragic but were largely brought about by the feudals themselves by their own admission.

Zeemax and his feudal corrupt Jurassic ilk should have become extinct in Pakistan as they became in India ( and the rest of the world) following Nehru`s land reforms of 1951. In Pakistan when Liaquat Ali Khan tried to do the same he was assassinated by the feudals which also demonstrates the reason for the feudals` paranoia about MQM.

I am also sorry that the Tariq Ali thread has now disappeared from the main page or it would have been more fun to take out zeemax for his lies about Liaquat Ali Khan and his martyrdom.

In short , I have said this before that I am not ethnic-minded . I also think that what happened to Justice Choudhry was unfair and he deserves re-instatement .
I also believe that because MQM will stay and Pervez Musharraf will have to go sooner or later Pervez Musharraf should stop using the MQM for his political gains.

I like to think of myself as a Pakistani and a Muslim I feel that instead of fighting each other we should have unity and a common perspective on most things .

However when I see cannibals like zeemax baying for my blood or when I see Beena Sarwar`s fraudulent ``eyewitness`` account,
>>plainclothes men ...exchanging gunfire with unseen opponents, the tri-colour MQM flag visible on their motorcycles-
So who were the ``unseen opponents`` you ugly prejudiced bitch ? Yeh ``Niazi`` yeh tere purasraar banday ?


I feel like puking at the third-rate publication standards on Chowk.com

Whatever it had happened in Karachi on 12 May was really not good!
But did you people see that now, what was happening in 1992 93 .???
Operation Against MQM where was the Voice for them at that time.
What ever happened on 12 May MQM was not a Part of that, but surley they have been balmed!

I am the son of a Baloch family. My forefathers have lived in central Punjab (Dist. Lodhran) for several centuries now. The language we speak is Saraeky. The language I learned to speak with my immediate family Urdu. I can`t validly claim to be a Punjabi nor a Baloch. Or a Saraeky speaker. Or a well versed urdu speaker. I`ve lived in Canada for the last 7 years. Yet, in my heart I have the burning desire to help the people of my country. To return to the same filthy streets and `chowks` I grew up in, to help my people in what ever way I can. As a child I lived all over Punjab thanks to my father`s government job. Most my Pakistani friends in Canada are Karachiites.

The only thing I can validly claim to be is Pakistani. And at this very moment, I`m ashamed to be a Pakistani.