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Re: # 49

Pankaj mishra is a respected journalist who has travelled all over Kashmir.

The charity I run in UK provides education and medical facilities in Kashmir.
We are building a girls college in bagh and a small hospital in ban gala.

There aren’t many Indian-kashmiris in uk but the half dozen I know have told me some horror stories about rapes and killings.

Apparently what they tell me is that groups of Indian soldiers under the pretext of searching for militants separate men and then rape young women.
They seem to have some fantasy about sex with a kashmiri woman.

I read Pankaj Mishra.

U dont have any pointed assertions to make but some sweeping generalisations?!

Be original Aslam!

It was then, early in 1990, that the Indian government again appointed Jagmohan as governor; he arrived with a sense of mission whose fanaticism approached that of the Islamic guerrillas. Farooq Abdullah resigned, leaving Kashmir without an elected leader. A series of ruthless actions quickly followed. Hundreds of young men suspected of being guerrillas were taken away from their homes, tortured, and sometimes killed. Unprovoked firings on demonstrators alone cost hundreds of lives—thanks to jumpy soldiers far from home, given a simple idea of the enemy, and licensed to kill. Thousands of Indian soldiers were brought into the valley—their current number is between 300,000 to 400,000. Foreign journalists were expelled and local journalists found themselves confined to their houses.
By the time Jagmohan was replaced, after six months as governor, the entire Muslim population of the valley had revolted against Indian rule. The local police mutinied; the legal sys-tem staffed by Kashmiris was close to collapse; more than a hundred thousand Hindus fled; the hospitals were flooded with tortured and maimed young men; and thousands of young men were missing, presumed dead, or in Pakistan.

pankaj mishra ( the birth of a nation)

#45 by Folio on June 5, 2007 5:51pm PT
Kaalachakra,

AS usual u stuffed many thoughts into a laconic sentence!

OK, the PTV does show video clips (on Kashmir) repeatedly with a voice speaking with echo-effect. It always sounds as if some God is speaking from above. God knows why they do this.


Aslam,

U have nothing to say?

Kaalachakra,

AS usual u stuffed many thoughts into a laconic sentence!

Kaalachakra,

AS usual u stuff many thoughts into a laconic sentence!

OK, the PTV does show video clips repeatedly with a voice speaking with echo-effect. It always sounds as if some God is speaking from above. God knows why they does this.

Aslam,

U are a coward who cant argue in full. U just vomit some opinions and that`s it.

If the `Indian Dogs Go Out` is written, that`s no surprise. In all propability those words are written by a Pakistani or a pro-Pakistani Kashmiri, little knowing that Pakistan is in doldrums.

If u remeber, Pakistni flags were burnt in Karachi when Bugti was murdered by the Pak Army. So Karachites are not Pakistanis?

If Kashmir was not part of India then Pakistan had NO claim on Kashmir (when British left India).

U dont have direct answers to these points. U are just a unifocal Pakistani with natural blinkers that prohibit a 360 degree view of an issue.

AS a Israeli lover I shud remind this:

When Pak agents create trouble in India then India shud bombard Pak cities with misslies and demolish all infrastructre, similar to what ur favoutrite Israel did in Lebanon. I think u`d rejoice such an eventuality. Godspeed.

Re: # 42
this is hilarious!!!

`#41 by Urstruly on June 5, 2007 7:05am PT

I don`t see a reason why can`t these Indian prisoners (if they really exist) can not be exchanged with the Muslim prisoners in the Indian jails`

somebody tell this idiot that its not about hindu or muslim prisoners, its about indian POWs. annd indian POW`s can be either hindu, muslim, sikkh, christian, jews etc because indians of all relligions are representated in the indian forces.

also muslim prisoners in india does not have to be necessarily pakkistani. incase your country still wishes to take them, please do by all means.

Urstruly, yaar, the whole of India is a jail for Muslims (ask tolkinin who is refused meals at Indian restaurants). It will be a very large population transfer.

I don`t see a reason why can`t these Indian prisoners (if they really exist) can not be exchanged with the Muslim prisoners in the Indian jails. However, those Indians who have committed acts of terrorism on Pakistani soil must be executed, if the next of kin of the their victims refuse to take monetary compensation in exchange for the pardon. I think a joint commission between the two countries should be set up who would oversee such excahnges and arrange for the ransom. There is absolutely no need for keeping sword of democlese hanging over the heads of the loved ones for indefinite period of time. I think Pakistan should assume a leadership role and make proposal for a treaty in this regard.

Re: # 38
No it isn’t in my mind only, it’s in the mind of most kasmiris who the enemy is, you’ll find it written on the walls in srinagar INDIAN DOGS GO HOME

Because isreal is far more open society what ever atrocities they commit is there for every one see.

Indians are more devious they use other methods fake encounters etc.

Folio

So God does not speak on PTV about Kashmir?

One shudders to imagine what other words of God might one call fake next?!

Aslam,

U consider Israel is much than India as far as Muslims are considered?

Tell us why Indian Army`s training their soldiers in this bizarre art of raping? (Individual acts of some persons cant be ascribed to the whole band of the army, if u dont know).

OK, thanks for remining that daily firing of misslies on the residential areas, direct shooting of politicians including the blind Yassin Omar and demolishing PLO office where Arafat is located, killing 1500 civilians in Jenin in 3 days are all loftier than Indian prsence in Srinagar who`re combing for armed mercenaries? THANKS!

Pakistan hunts and kills an old man on the run (Bugti) whereas India gives 24x7 police protection to the secessionists and arranges for the cancer operation gratis, at a Bombay hospital 4 Jilani who spews venom on India everyay.

The concept of `enemy` is in ur mind. If there`re no armed raiders from PAK, there`s no need for the army to station themselves in Kashmir-proper but on the border.

Re: # 35

as I have told my Palestinian friends they are lucky they have a civilised enemy if west bank was in south asia it wouldn’t be even in news.

Ten times more killings have taken place in Kashmir than in west bank.

Rapes by isrealis in west bank zero.

Thousands of isrealis soldiers refused to serve in the west bank, media and human rights groups have access all the time.

i think most of the ppeople who are a part of this trip are only looking for answers. i am also sure thhat most of them are pprepared to know thatt their loved ones are no more.

but not knowing the truth and more importantly being kept in the dark is by far the worst torture than can be infllicted on people.

this includes incidents in either side of kashmir, pakistan, india and the POW issue.

In long-standing struggles, individual acts/incidents cant be discussed for meaningful conclusions on the issues involved.

I too sent angry emails 2 the Prime Minister (www.pmindia.nic.in) whenever I read abt the excesses in Kashmir by the security forces. I dont accept HR violations as something passable. But what they show on PTV is repetition of the same old video clips with the commentator`s voice in echo, as if there is a `heavenly comment` (by God/Al-Lah) on Kashmir. Btw, on all other news stories, PTV does not give an echo-effect commentary.

Occupied Kashmir - as what they talk in Pak media - is not in the same league as occupied West Bank.