Letter from Pakistan

Pakistan can indeed function as a democracy but the problem is that as a people we have yet to respect institutions. The problem starts at the top. Musharraf took over power in an unconsitutional and unlawful way and he now controls the country. He has set an example. Now when he asks others to follow the laws of the land why should anyone care!
Whether we like it or not the country has to return to civilian democratic rule- good or bad- the incompetence of the current military ruler only shows that no matter how bad BB or Nawaz Sharif were, the military is worse which is why the European think tank Transparency International grades Pakistan`s current military dictatorship as more corrupt than the any of the civilian governments before it. I have a great deal more faith in the young people of Pakistan now- we have seen the world and Pakistan will take its place of pride as a functioning democracy and the beacon of the Muslim world.

Trusting pakistanis to elect rational human beings,
hmmm well let`s see

hmmmm

ok, may be like of Zulfiqar ali bhuttu who would rather break pakistan and let the army kill millions of banaglis than be able to share (err... let bangalis) rule the pakistan.

or may be banazir bhutu with her highness husband to rob pakistan of its remains ..
or nawaz sharif... but wait we have a cricketer as well.... no no mullah umar possibly have immigrated to nwfp now.
No, with nuke on your hands, you gotta be ruled by someone who we think is in our control until we loose that trust, after that possibly some part of teeth to identify the remains and off we go with another dictator...

Hallo - I read some of the comments here and can`t understand what all the `we shouldn`t beg` nonsense is about. Sounds like an okay article to me calling for change and peace, but not begging via the USofA. Don`t most if not all of us want peace? Sure we do. Sadly, politicians all over the planet are puppet masters. I can`t wait for the year 2012!

-zensufi-

HP,
what kind of an idiotic response was that. Masadi and Zeemax are the two monkeys who will sit on anyone`s back who is against Musharaf. So dont think of yourself as some inteellectual. You are as moronic as those two. Besides being a Punjabi I dont think you have achieved much. That can be proven by your asinine comment about Jinnah being equal to Bhutto.
You are probably one of those idiots who think that BB and Nawaz never did anything wrong. They were highly misunderstood. Surrey Palace and Raiwind Estate were there because poor people deserved what they got and it isa divine right of every Pakistani to serve Punjabis. You also probably never said anything against BB when she ordered the massacre of innocent young kids in Hyderabad and Karachi operations but you were probably in the forefront yelling and screaming ``blody murder`` at May 12th incident.
Regarding your comment about Musharaf coming and toppling a ``legal`` government, it is the same people like BB and MMA who were screaming that Nawaz cheated in the elections and the government should be toppled. Your madam BB was the one who was very happy when Musharaf came. Imran Khan ` comment was that BB and Nawaz got what they deserved. Now that they are all together for their gain and decide that Nawaz will rule for the first 5 years and BB for the next - you are extremely happy because now you can sit at the parties and call yourself an intellectul who voiced their opinion against the military and now you are the reason that democracy is flourishing in Pakistan. Idiots like you should be jailed and the key thrrown away. Maybe you can offer you daughter and sister and m other to people like Bhutto and Jam Sdiq to do whatever they please, but most people know thee difference. And I am surely glad that most of the Pakistanis are not as sick as you, zeemax, and masadi. Keep spewing your venom at this site because I know nobody is listening. Mushraf will come back to power and idiots like you, BB, and Nawaz will do nothing but write about their frustrations. And lastly, if you are really craving the power and money, why dont I tell some poor people to come to your house and pay you a monthly bathaa. That way you will feel like you are living in BB`s democracy again.

#47 by HP,

Where do we get these morons to post here!

I have been wondering too but think Gandhi Gardens of Karachi is a likely place where people toss peanuts at them ......

#45 by eastmwest

If Cuba can stand up for itself and separate interests, why can`t Pakistan?

Whose interests did Pakistan stand up for on 28th May 1999 (other than the rajia sabha`s dhoti-washers) and got sanctioned to the hilt?

Question for ... Zeemax:If west is so bad what the hell are doing living there? 70 000 Indians form US, trained professional moved back to help build the homeland. What is holding you both back? Think it would be a waste of time?

The diplomatic corps (and intelligence operatives) HAVE to live abroad, no?

:~)

HP writes <<< Where do we get these morons to post here! >>>



These morons just like Humped Dumped 2 and his Chihuahua R2D-(T)32 (Copyright of these names held firmly by Echo), are merely fulfilling their function, like their masters of sloganeering about democracy while supporting military dictatorships. Of course the person who tries to use Pakistani resources for Pakistanis become corrupt and the ones who sell the country to be used as a whore by the Americans becomes ``the buster of bankruptcy``. These are the people who see bribes in the billions (even as the country goes to hell) as some kind of development and then rail against ``corruption``.

Ejaz...

See my post 21 addressed to you.

#42 by hasanmahmood

“Of course Bhutto being corrupt to the corehad nothing to do with it. Not that Zia was an angel but come on....”

Ignorant idiots like you are a menace to the Pakistani society. It is because of people like you these fking raiders from the dungeons of lal kurti attack Pakistan.

Despite his many problems, there has never been any allegation of corruption against ZAB. That man was honest and at par with Jinnah in that regard. That is amazing! A person of his ambition never indulged in any corruption throughout his political career. In fact the reality is barring a few bad sheeps, ZAB government was pretty much corruption free. Had he been corrupt, he would not have destroyed the 22 families of Pakistan. They could have offered him plenty of money to avoid that nationalization of the 70s.

“Oh how soon people forget the state Pakistan was in (almost bankrupt with no respect or legitimacy throughout the world).”

Another idiotic comment.

Bankrupt or not, who gave the army the authority to destroy the constitution and overthrow an elected government?

You have to be a moron to believe that an army government can bring respect and legitimacy to any state.
Where do we get these morons to post here!

eastmwest writes <<< If Cuba can stand up for itself and separate interests, why can`t Pakistan? >>>

1. Cuba isn`t host to a US occupation force like Pakistan is
2. There hasn`t been a people`s revolution in Pakistan where the elite thugs ran away, to allow for institutional restructuring
3. Cuba is a tiny island nation of around 12 million, Pakistan is located in a messy neighbourhood and has a large population of 160 million, that is much more important to the US and its motives.

Or on the contrary you might ask the question, why was Iraq not allowed to stand for itself like cuba is being allowed....

Question for Masadi:

If Cuba can stand up for itself and separate interests, why can`t Pakistan?


Question for Urstruly and Zeemax:

If west is so bad what the hell are doing living there? 70 000 Indians form US, trained porofessional moved back to help build the homeland. What is holding you both back? Think it would be a waste of time?

hear hear hasanmahmoud!

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lol,
``Just before that an Army General had overthrown a popularly elected Prime Minister in Pakistan.`` Of course Bhutto being corrupt to the corehad nothing to do with it. Not that Zia was an angel but come on....
``Pervez Musharraf, overthrew a democratically elected Prime Minister and jailed him``
lol - apthetic to the core. Are you high dude or are a nawaz lover. Oh how soon people forget the state Pakistan was in (almost bankrupt with no respect or legitimacy throughout the world).
`He has ‘sacked’ the Chief of Justice`` Chief Justice trying to get his son a job had nothing to do with it.
I love democracy as much as the next person but this is pathetic. just because everyone hates Musharaf; they should not forget the 11 years we had under BB and Nawaz....

Re: # 40: I agree. There is also the larger issue of various sects within Islam. At some point you have to reckon that establishing a state religion is a dubious enterprise even when 90% (give or take a few percentage points) of the people are Muslims, as is the case in Pakistan, simply because there are various interpretations of religious dogma by various sects of Muslims.

Here in America the founding fathers were very mindful of religious persecution that existed in Europe at the time, so the US constitution guarantees that there shall be no state religion and guarantees religious freedom.

Dear Iron mask,

I am not suggesting anything... but simply that a state ought to be extra conscious of minorities and their concerns....

Ahmadis excluded... even if we accept the paltry five percent figure... five percent of 160 million is 8 million...(Given that the total population of Israel is 9 million one can imagine that this is not a small number)... And this is by no means the figure accepted by minorities ... mind you. Christians alone claim 15-20 million adherents... a claim which does not make sense but by the same token I am sure it is higher than 10 million- that is the Christians.

The point is that we are talking of people who number in millions... if not scores of millions...