Pakistani Media to Face Wrath of the Government

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Re: # 118

Zeena:
#118
“..She is pro-Indian and I am rigid Pro- Pakistani. She is anti-Pakistan and I am NOT anti-India….”

This probably summarizes the differences between the two of you quite well, and your remaining points about Sadna show that you are open to listening to the viewpoints which do not coincide with yours. This is the basis of pluralism. To me creativity is synthesization of known ideas. A person is more likely to create something new from opposite ideas than with identical ideas.

“….arjun2 doesn`t have any agenda, he is a clear cut cyber harrasser, abuser and his only agenda is to spread hate and spread negativity on chowk 24/7........................”

It is unfortunate for him that he applies his intellect to find negative cut-and-paste, why make it angry for yourself? There indeed is a term that may be apt that the person always has another viewpoint. I wish he applies this talent to point problems in Bangalore and Delhi as well. I read his postings as just that.
Your agenda, at least on Chowk, of democracy, secularism and religion as personal matter is far above the agenda of the above persons. There is indeed an Indian saying that you can learn from enemy too. I suggestion is that you may want to keep this in mind when you think of other persons who are distracting you. I do not approve of anyone’s harassments, and his use of an animal and giving it a name of someone’s prophet is abhorring, and discussing it or similar things giving more importance. May be this is non-violent to the extreme, but that is what I think.


Zeena & Naqshbandi Sahib:
#117 & #116

In my student days, there were really two South Asian names (= heroes) to look up to, Tariq Ali and Imran Khan. I did follow his cricketing career, till I moved to the U.S. As I see the only institution that is strong and has withstood challenges in Pakistan is Military. The generals have come and gone through this institution. Any leader therefore, worth being called a leader in Pakistan is someone who has arisen from it.

The Acid test is would a leader be ready to give up his / her life?

I find Musharaff standing up to it. All civilian leaders – Benazir, Shariff, and Altaf Hussein in England. Even Imran Khan going to England to see justice against Altaf Hussein. Imran Khan, instead should be better off to lead the movement to extradite Altaf Hussein to Pakistan, if Altaf Hussein is guilty of what he claims. Instead of struggling to build the democratic institutions, he is off to summer time in London.

There is something seriously wrong, Zeena and Naqsh. It seems these Pakistani civilians are happy to make London as the civilian capital of Pakistan.

The only leader showing courage is Musharaff. One can easily think that he enjoys the U.S. support, but the heat that he must be taking from the west – have you considered that. He is fighting Islamic terror on one-side, obscurantism in the society one the other. He is daring to solve the issues like women’s rights, reforming education to be beyond Quran, reforming economy and facing internal dissent just to mention the few. He does not run away to London to file cases against Altaf Hussein. I agree that he has challenged Supreme Court’s independence. We will see how this gets resolved, the first historical moment.

Saudi Arabian clergy and the others who came were not just to lead prayers, but also to talk to Lal Masjid crazies. This only shows his clam and calculated approach, rather than add more fuel to the fire.

Frankly, I believe Pakistan needs more stability, Musharaff has provided it, and has ensured that until the war on terror is over, no one will touch Pakistan. If anything, Pakistan will get economic and other support from the world. His handling of Kashmir has been remarkable, yes there are people on Chowk who only out of disbelief say that his real intentions are different.

By any standard his score card has top grades among the top in South Asia.
If I were a Pakistani and had Pakistan in my mind, at this stage, I will support him and his plans for the nation building. Fighting him, is creating internal dissent to squander the war-and-peace capital and dividends that he has amassed for the nation.
That is the way I see it.

Peemin aka Zeemax, Karachi lasses aren`t that hard up ...

#29 zeemux :)) {``when the mosquito-bite Karachi lasses feel an uncontrollable urge for the Punjabi `hard willow` .. ``}

Peemin,
Karachi lasses aren`t that hard up that they would pull off a dozen Pathans off of a single Punju`s backside, then turnover the paindoo, to find out that the withered willow is all bark. :))

#128 Chacha Chaar Sau Bees Gholwalla,
Looks like you are doing a pretty filthy job of littering this FP article with racist and ethnic slurs like calling me chuha. It not only is a derogatory term used by Bezamir and Buwaseer Lulla BuRbuR, but is also a mutilation of my Hindu last name - of course, this gives you an opportunity to abuse BOTH - Urdu-speaking Mohajirs and Hindus. Your racist, bigoted, and one-sided self-righteousness is known to all - that is why you are the acknowledged and despised MAHA HYPOCRITE of Chowk. Not too long ago, a nice compassionate female was complaining about your miserable attitude. So save the sanctimonious crap for your fan club - I am not impressed.

#126 Khaali matkay: I am not going to litter the front page with your garbage. Go to unplugged and howl to your hearts content. So last post to you here.

I should note that in #126 you prove yet again that it is you who is the char-sau-bees when you try to hide behind the mohajir community by claiming that ``rat`` is a term applied to mohajirs. This is the first time I have heard of this, and I have made very clear why you I call you the rat man - it is because of your harrassing of female chowkies on unplugged with your lewd comments and ridicule. And you are a married man with a daughter, not merely a street thug harrassing females.

Mahapunju Mahadoghla Gholkhor Kelb-e-Taussab Bint-e-Sharmut Chacha Chaar Sau Bees.

#125 by tahmed32 on June 8, 2007 7:48am PT
#124 khaali matkay char-sau-bees-salim-ratman: Re-read #123 on why you are a khaali matka. I have already explained earlier to you why you are a rat (writes lewd posts to female chowkies on unplugged``}

Chacha Chaar Sau Bees,

chuha was a favorite derogatory term used by Bezamir to refer to Urdu-speaking Mohajirs. It was also used by Chacha Chaar Sau Bees` other hero, Bawaseer Lullah BuRbuR who was Bezamir`s Minister of Interior. I guess he really ministered the bitch`s interior.

So, being the exposed hypocrite who happens to be the #1 Urdu-speaking Mohajir hater on Chowk, Chacha has repeatedly called me a chooha. Coming from this hateful paindoo, I consider it an honor to be referred to as a chooha - the same thing that Bezamir called all Urdu-speaking Mohajirs.

So, go ahead taussub, nafrat, aur soobai prasti ke kuttay - bhonk bhonk bhonk. Aakhir men tu nanga hoga or tere chootaR par DanDay paReNge.

#124 khaali matkay char-sau-bees-salim-ratman: Re-read #123 on why you are a khaali matka. I have already explained earlier to you why you are a rat (writes lewd posts to female chowkies on unplugged).

#119 {``Let Pakistan Lawyers teach the military what wearing the uniform means - defending the rule of law in the nation. Not breaking it. ``}

Chacha Chaar Sau Bees,


When Musharraf arrived at the scene:
Pakistan was bankrupt
The economy was down the tubes
People were leaving Pakistan in swarms
The four ``democratic`` governments had looted the nation
The civilian ``democratically-elected`` PM was acting worse than a dictator
Real estate prices were at rock bottom
Pakistan was close to being a failed state

Why Paki Punju Paindoos want him to depart from the scene:
Pakistan`s foreign exchange cash reserves are at a high
The economy is booming
Real estate prices are at all-time highs
The military ``dictator`` has allowed more freedoms than ANY of the past 5 civilian ``democratically-elected`` governments of ZAB, BBI, NSI, BBII, and NS II, and ANY of the past 3 dictators - Zina Owl Hack, Yayha Khan, Ayub Khan. More TV channels, more free speech, more demonstrations and street ``democracy.``
Exiled leaders (BB, NS) are chomping at the bits to come back and loot some more. The maintenance fees on their palaces in Europe have skyrocketed and they need more funds.

Basically, when their bellies are full, the Paki Punju Paindoos think of ``democracy.``
Jab gidaR ki maut ati he to ...
Jab cheeti ke par nikal aatey hen to ...

salim-khaali-matkay: and when i say it is you who is the char-sau-bees, i can back that by countless posts you have written writing insults to ``panjoos`` while at the same time claiming to be the victim. when you call me a char-sau-bees, you have consistently failed even when challenged to produce anything I have said to back your claims.

Thus proving that you are a khaali-matka trying to be a char-sau-bees.

woman-abuser-salim-char-sau-bees: havent found a job yet, i see.

#119 Chacha Char Sau Bees,
Paki Punjus could learn a lot about what being a Pakistani citizen means from Singh - helping fellow citizens rather than looting them, raping them, and killing them. (T)

AYSHA SIDDIQUA of Military Inc. chased out of Pakistan by Military Mafia.

(some details in the news report by mafia apologists are eye-opening)