Pakistani Media to Face Wrath of the Government

Salim Mian

Not all Urdu speaking Karachiits are MQM........and that`s the crystal clear difference that I wish some Urdu speaking chowkies should recognize as well......

Why to assimilate MQM(mafia) with all Urdu speaking people?

BTW, I also speak URDU with my family.....So, in that context I am also URDU speaking......(T)

I also chew paan right from my childhood....meetha pan with supari(bewafa sanam, taj mahal, shehzada salim, kaneez, shahi supari, tum rootho naa, payaar kaa musam, khushboo pyaar kii, aashaq, chambeeli, gulab kii khushboo, toota dil etc, etc, etc)........these are the specific names for all kinds of paans that i always chew when I am in Pakistan.........

I spent my early childhood in Karachi...So, I still have all my loving memories with Karachi....

I am also Mohajir mutarwa paan chewing kaali short mohajir...........

#141 salim Mian
A.Q.Khan is the pride of all Pakistanis. He is our spiderman....super hero.....
He is an asset to pakistani history and Pakistani nation is oblighed to what he did for pakistan to save this country...

You can not divide him as MQM......

Trust me not all Urdu speaking Karachiits are MQM....

From Zeemax on UP {``A word of advice for tha mohajirs ...
I don`t see how it is in the interest of Urdu speaking people to turn loyalty to a linguistic party, whom the entire rest of the country considers criminal, into a communal issue. ``}

Peemin,
What communal issue. Urdu-speaking Mohajirs in Karachi and Hyderabad are not a distinct race, nation, or even linguistic group. We are Dilliwallas, Lucknowis, Allahabadis, Rampuris, Rohillas, Bhopalis, Pathans, Rajputs, Biharis, Gujratis, Hyderabadis, Mysorewallas, Madrasis, Keralites, Bumbaiwallas, and even from Jabalpur, Nagpur, and Sholapur. MQM has forged many different ethnicities with roots in India into one group demanding equal rights with the Pisser-e-Zameen.

{``After all, they`re just forcing communalism on 92.5% of the country`s population (total Urdu-speaking population being just 7.5%) whom not only do not wish to become so, but also against the wishes and interests of those Urdu-Speaking people who do not support MQM. ``}

Abey Peemin,
You manipulate percentages and issues just like you masturbate with abandon. Punjus DO NOT constitute 92.5% of the Paki population. The truth is the other way around - 60% of present-day Pakis (If you count the oppressed Saraikis as Punjus), have alienated the other 40% after having forced the former majority of Pakistan (the 55% Bengalis of pre-71 Pakistan) to secede from the minority. The more you demean the MQM and Altaf Bhai, the more the fence-sitting Urdu-speaking Mohajirs will support them, because they despise you Punjus much more.

{``It was precisely to prevent a disadvantaged status and alienation of the urdu-speaking refugees, that the language of a few million was adopted as national language over and above the majority languages by far of that time of Bangla and Punjabi in Pakistan.``}

Make up your mind. Did you really make Urdu the national and official language to appease Mohajirs? Don`t lie. We prefer English as the national and official language, how about that? Please go ahead and form your own Punjuland and make Punjaibi the official and national and mandatory language. Just keep us out of this mess.

{``All the indigenous ethnicities accepted the foreigners` language without question except the Bengalis who maintained a grudge and never forgot the insult. West Pakistanis I suspect accepted it mainly due to long association and love for the Urdu language due to its treasures in literature, and not for any love for the refugees who were clannish from the very outset, and never made an effort in return to assimilate even in their host province, Sindh.``}

Peemin, you are not making any sense. First you say that you chose Urdu because you wanted to appease us, now you are saying that Urdu was selected due to the great ``love`` the illiterate people of Poonzab had for Urdu.

{``And still, these people go around with badges of ethnicity stuck on their chests, and want to stoke communal fires by insulting other much larger, stronger and culturally rich ethnicities. Do they want another Godhra in Pakistan? If they do, they`re sure to have one. 8-|8-|``}

What badge of ethnicity? B) If anything, we Urdu-speaking Mohajirs are the most diverse racially, linguistically, and physically than any other group in Pakistan. We represent every single province of India. If you are threatening us with Godhra, that is not new. Chacha Chaar Sau Bees has already issued a veiled threat to Urdu-speaking minorities in Lahore. 8-|
Just one piece of advice for you. The Mohajirs of Karachi and Hyderabad are not as helpless or as unarmed as the Muslims of Gujarat. ;) So the truth is out, Narinder Modi is the new hero, after the corrupt CJ Chodhry, of the Paki Punju Paindoo racists and bigots. :))

#140 BJ {``You are losing it! :)
You just made the OPPOSITE case of what you intended to.
Without its nukes, Pakistan would not be the threat to world peace that it is today - and a Mohajir is responsible (as per you)! ``}

BJ,
Very good Indian perspective on your part. Unfortunately, you seem to forget that I am still a Paki - a detested one at that. :)
A. Q. Khan, a leading Muttarwa Mohajir and Urdu-speaker (of whom we are very proud), has contributed to peace in South Asia by leveling the playing field between the two hostile neighbors. Now, there can be no more ceremonies of Paki Punju ``Ghazis`` kissing Indian Hindu dhoti contents against their will. For this, the Paki Punjus hate the paan-chewing Urdu-speaking HindustaaNras. Maybe they became fond of the dhotis and all that they contained.

#139 Salim

You are losing it! :)

You just made the OPPOSITE case of what you intended to.

Without its nukes, Pakistan would not be the threat to world peace that it is today - and a Mohajir is responsible (as per you)!

That dark-skinned, paan-chewing, short, Urdu-speaking, Bhopali HindustaaNra, Panahguzeer Muttarwa ...



Started by Salim_Chauhan on June 9, 2007 8:48am PT

Mohajir, A. Q. Khan, gave Pakistan its much-needed nuclear capability. If it were not for him, the Paki Punju Paindoos, like Chacha Chaar Sau Bees, Ass Lame, Madame Demi Flatulence, Kopek A Lie, Chuck the frog fuck, Peemin Shoomax, HijRali, Chutif, Kala Harry, and BhaiRya Faggot would all be breathing through the wide open yellow dhotis of the Indian Hindus - just like their Ghazi ``Tiger`` Niazi did 35 years ago.

So, at least one muttarwa saved the collective Paki Punju Paindoo dark face from being continuously pressed by the even darker hindu ass.

With this universal abuse and multi-ethnic slur, I have managed to satisfy Sadna`s thirst:

#8 by sadna on June 8, 2007 12:34pm PT
Noone has time to abuse hindoos these days, cos they are too busy going after each other hammer and tongs, so naturally I am puzzled

zeena its better to have some balance when declaring some one as the ``right`` person. there is no two opinion about MQM but there is certainly a question mark put on Imran`s abilities to run and lead the affairs of the country. like many past politicians, both great abd gutter, he has got his own shell to live in and his own prism to look at things. what we are looking to make this country great is a debate which can go on for ever because everyone of us has different dreams about this. but like there is one right and one wrong and yes there are different ways of reaching the same right and the wrong, same is true for building a nation in a democratic set up. we need to draw up all the commonlaities of good things and then look for the best choice. perhaps it will be hard to find one consensus choice but before showering our praise or hatered for anyone we must keep in mind the totality of the issue in mind. having said that i think there is also a need to see how our institutions can be built, is the much trumpeted democractic way is the right way for us or is Atta Turk model offers something for us? do we really need to listen and look at the Islamic model, without looking or listening to the mullahs but looking at the Holy Book and the authentic material? these and many such questions need to be deal with before reaching a common goal and then searching for the right choice. for the time being Imran is doing a right thing of taking up a case against Altaf but what his views are on other issues, needs lots of debate and his views arises lots of questions as well. so lets make this a public domain where everyone should come and talk about the issue under review and thats of pemra and its usage and how rulers are doing this and what need to be done and in that context the freedom of media question that how much freedom and freedom for whom, for owners to mint money or freedom for masses who should be given first hand knwoeldge of whatever is happening. because this might prove the first step towards institution building and eventually towards nation building. Unless people are not involved in public domains and asked to debate on issues not on personalities we cannot think of a better future. =but zeena keep it up.

Imran Khan with all his honesty........in the making of a great leader..........Listen

From the board of Pakistan tehreek-e-Insaf.com

[[[i came across an audio tape recorded on 1987, in which altaf of mqm says: ``mahajiro! aslah kharido aslah, tv vcr chhoro, aslah kharido``. mqm is first organization of its kind in pakistan, which started its activities on the basis of smuggled arms. thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the terrorists of this organization. mqm`s terrorists are trained in bharat by bharti army. the same bharti army once trained mukti bahini of east pakistan. i read a news story in an old news paper of 1987, in which a pashto speaking muslim was ziped with iron belts and then blown up alive by throwing petrol and then fire. innocent poor pashtoon was requesting: `` please kill me with gun, but please do not blow me up`` mqm`s terrorists were laghing and taunting at the cry of that pashtoon. just imagine the scene in your dreams. mqm has killed thousands and thousands of innocent muslims like that. this is just one single example. any pakistani who believes in quran and our innocent prophet (pbuh) will always hate this terrorist mqm. mqm has purchased millions of dollars of armory from afghan war lords in 1980s. but underground members of zia`s govt like aslam baig and pervaiz musharraf provided full support to this terrorist organization. they had organized fake fights between panjabis,sindhis,pashtoons and urdu speaking community just to strengthen terrorist mqm. whenever see a mqm member just remember these events. these members represent those terrorists,who have unromovable spots of blood on their faces. just always remember it. if you support mqm, it means you support killers, murderers, and remember our prophet (pbuh) never support murderers. please choose the prophet`s way(pbuh). thank you.]]]]
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pakis..don`t get too uppity..

Ordeal of freed May 12 petitioner

KARACHI, June 8: Advocate and civil rights campaigner Syed Mohammad Iqbal Kazmi, who went missing on Wednesday afternoon, was released on Friday morning by his captors on condition that he leave Karachi within five days.

Mr Kazmi had recently filed petitions in the Sindh High Court on the May 12 violence and the new Pemra ordinance in which major political and government figures were named as respondents.

With tears welling up in his eyes, Mr Kazmi said that two men tortured him during this period and quizzed him about his association with Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf chief Imran Khan and the reason for filing a petition against the Muttahida Qaumi Movement chief Altaf Hussain.

They also asked him to disclose the names of his supporters. He claimed his captors used to throw cold water on him to force him to stay awake.

“They burnt the sensitive parts of my body with cigarettes and pressed my fingers with stones,” he said.

Mr Kazmi said that his captors threatened him with death if he did not disclose the names of those who had asked him to file the petition. He said his cellphone containing photo clips of the May 12 incidents, Rs12,000 in cash, a telephone directory and other documents were taken from him.

He said that one of the men -- whom the others referred to as ‘sahib’ – talked to him in a much more civilised manner. He said the man grilled him and asked him to withdraw the petition. Mr Kazmi said he was given some plain white papers to sign and then asked to bathe.

#110 by Salim_Chauhan
Salim mian
Thank you so, much.
I appreciate your sincere compliments.
And I do respect your devotion for MQM. But, sorry we both are not on the same plat form.May be in future...Who knows?

Take care

Re:#131 anil
[[[[The only leader showing courage is Musharaff...]]]]
anil sahib
Sorry, I don`t agree with you here. Musharaf is NOT our leader, he is a tyrant and d is a cruel dictator.....

And recent killings of innocent Pakistanis backed up by Musharaf At the hands of MQM and now banning of all the media....tells a lot.


Pakistan has bad and good both types of politicians..

Honestly, if, it comes to choose a bad or worst politcian Versus an army dictator....I will choose the worst politician.....just for democracy.

Like I stated before the worst democracy is much much better and healtheir than army dictatorship...And that`s the rule of thumb.......

Yes, if, Musharaf wishes to be the leader of pakistan..First he has to go to court for killing innocent Pakistanis and has to prove himself innocnet......and then if he is proven innocent, he has to resign from his army position and should run like a regular politician and if, majority people of Pakistan give him mandate to rule the country.............By all means he can be Pakistani leader................difference is clear............

Musharaf has to leave....he is NOT leader...but, a tyrant.

chowk guidelines are very specific about interacts being relevant to the topic...just a reminder...;)

Re: # 118

Zeena:
#118
“..She is pro-Indian and I am rigid Pro- Pakistani. She is anti-Pakistan and I am NOT anti-India….”

This probably summarizes the differences between the two of you quite well, and your remaining points about Sadna show that you are open to listening to the viewpoints which do not coincide with yours. This is the basis of pluralism. To me creativity is synthesization of known ideas. A person is more likely to create something new from opposite ideas than with identical ideas.

“….arjun2 doesn`t have any agenda, he is a clear cut cyber harrasser, abuser and his only agenda is to spread hate and spread negativity on chowk 24/7........................”

It is unfortunate for him that he applies his intellect to find negative cut-and-paste, why make it angry for yourself? There indeed is a term that may be apt that the person always has another viewpoint. I wish he applies this talent to point problems in Bangalore and Delhi as well. I read his postings as just that.
Your agenda, at least on Chowk, of democracy, secularism and religion as personal matter is far above the agenda of the above persons. There is indeed an Indian saying that you can learn from enemy too. I suggestion is that you may want to keep this in mind when you think of other persons who are distracting you. I do not approve of anyone’s harassments, and his use of an animal and giving it a name of someone’s prophet is abhorring, and discussing it or similar things giving more importance. May be this is non-violent to the extreme, but that is what I think.


Zeena & Naqshbandi Sahib:
#117 & #116

In my student days, there were really two South Asian names (= heroes) to look up to, Tariq Ali and Imran Khan. I did follow his cricketing career, till I moved to the U.S. As I see the only institution that is strong and has withstood challenges in Pakistan is Military. The generals have come and gone through this institution. Any leader therefore, worth being called a leader in Pakistan is someone who has arisen from it.

The Acid test is would a leader be ready to give up his / her life?

I find Musharaff standing up to it. All civilian leaders – Benazir, Shariff, and Altaf Hussein in England. Even Imran Khan going to England to see justice against Altaf Hussein. Imran Khan, instead should be better off to lead the movement to extradite Altaf Hussein to Pakistan, if Altaf Hussein is guilty of what he claims. Instead of struggling to build the democratic institutions, he is off to summer time in London.

There is something seriously wrong, Zeena and Naqsh. It seems these Pakistani civilians are happy to make London as the civilian capital of Pakistan.

The only leader showing courage is Musharaff. One can easily think that he enjoys the U.S. support, but the heat that he must be taking from the west – have you considered that. He is fighting Islamic terror on one-side, obscurantism in the society one the other. He is daring to solve the issues like women’s rights, reforming education to be beyond Quran, reforming economy and facing internal dissent just to mention the few. He does not run away to London to file cases against Altaf Hussein. I agree that he has challenged Supreme Court’s independence. We will see how this gets resolved, the first historical moment.

Saudi Arabian clergy and the others who came were not just to lead prayers, but also to talk to Lal Masjid crazies. This only shows his clam and calculated approach, rather than add more fuel to the fire.

Frankly, I believe Pakistan needs more stability, Musharaff has provided it, and has ensured that until the war on terror is over, no one will touch Pakistan. If anything, Pakistan will get economic and other support from the world. His handling of Kashmir has been remarkable, yes there are people on Chowk who only out of disbelief say that his real intentions are different.

By any standard his score card has top grades among the top in South Asia.
If I were a Pakistani and had Pakistan in my mind, at this stage, I will support him and his plans for the nation building. Fighting him, is creating internal dissent to squander the war-and-peace capital and dividends that he has amassed for the nation.
That is the way I see it.

Peemin aka Zeemax, Karachi lasses aren`t that hard up ...

#29 zeemux :)) {``when the mosquito-bite Karachi lasses feel an uncontrollable urge for the Punjabi `hard willow` .. ``}

Peemin,
Karachi lasses aren`t that hard up that they would pull off a dozen Pathans off of a single Punju`s backside, then turnover the paindoo, to find out that the withered willow is all bark. :))

#128 Chacha Chaar Sau Bees Gholwalla,
Looks like you are doing a pretty filthy job of littering this FP article with racist and ethnic slurs like calling me chuha. It not only is a derogatory term used by Bezamir and Buwaseer Lulla BuRbuR, but is also a mutilation of my Hindu last name - of course, this gives you an opportunity to abuse BOTH - Urdu-speaking Mohajirs and Hindus. Your racist, bigoted, and one-sided self-righteousness is known to all - that is why you are the acknowledged and despised MAHA HYPOCRITE of Chowk. Not too long ago, a nice compassionate female was complaining about your miserable attitude. So save the sanctimonious crap for your fan club - I am not impressed.

#126 Khaali matkay: I am not going to litter the front page with your garbage. Go to unplugged and howl to your hearts content. So last post to you here.

I should note that in #126 you prove yet again that it is you who is the char-sau-bees when you try to hide behind the mohajir community by claiming that ``rat`` is a term applied to mohajirs. This is the first time I have heard of this, and I have made very clear why you I call you the rat man - it is because of your harrassing of female chowkies on unplugged with your lewd comments and ridicule. And you are a married man with a daughter, not merely a street thug harrassing females.

Mahapunju Mahadoghla Gholkhor Kelb-e-Taussab Bint-e-Sharmut Chacha Chaar Sau Bees.

#125 by tahmed32 on June 8, 2007 7:48am PT
#124 khaali matkay char-sau-bees-salim-ratman: Re-read #123 on why you are a khaali matka. I have already explained earlier to you why you are a rat (writes lewd posts to female chowkies on unplugged``}

Chacha Chaar Sau Bees,

chuha was a favorite derogatory term used by Bezamir to refer to Urdu-speaking Mohajirs. It was also used by Chacha Chaar Sau Bees` other hero, Bawaseer Lullah BuRbuR who was Bezamir`s Minister of Interior. I guess he really ministered the bitch`s interior.

So, being the exposed hypocrite who happens to be the #1 Urdu-speaking Mohajir hater on Chowk, Chacha has repeatedly called me a chooha. Coming from this hateful paindoo, I consider it an honor to be referred to as a chooha - the same thing that Bezamir called all Urdu-speaking Mohajirs.

So, go ahead taussub, nafrat, aur soobai prasti ke kuttay - bhonk bhonk bhonk. Aakhir men tu nanga hoga or tere chootaR par DanDay paReNge.

#124 khaali matkay char-sau-bees-salim-ratman: Re-read #123 on why you are a khaali matka. I have already explained earlier to you why you are a rat (writes lewd posts to female chowkies on unplugged).

#119 {``Let Pakistan Lawyers teach the military what wearing the uniform means - defending the rule of law in the nation. Not breaking it. ``}

Chacha Chaar Sau Bees,


When Musharraf arrived at the scene:
Pakistan was bankrupt
The economy was down the tubes
People were leaving Pakistan in swarms
The four ``democratic`` governments had looted the nation
The civilian ``democratically-elected`` PM was acting worse than a dictator
Real estate prices were at rock bottom
Pakistan was close to being a failed state

Why Paki Punju Paindoos want him to depart from the scene:
Pakistan`s foreign exchange cash reserves are at a high
The economy is booming
Real estate prices are at all-time highs
The military ``dictator`` has allowed more freedoms than ANY of the past 5 civilian ``democratically-elected`` governments of ZAB, BBI, NSI, BBII, and NS II, and ANY of the past 3 dictators - Zina Owl Hack, Yayha Khan, Ayub Khan. More TV channels, more free speech, more demonstrations and street ``democracy.``
Exiled leaders (BB, NS) are chomping at the bits to come back and loot some more. The maintenance fees on their palaces in Europe have skyrocketed and they need more funds.

Basically, when their bellies are full, the Paki Punju Paindoos think of ``democracy.``
Jab gidaR ki maut ati he to ...
Jab cheeti ke par nikal aatey hen to ...

salim-khaali-matkay: and when i say it is you who is the char-sau-bees, i can back that by countless posts you have written writing insults to ``panjoos`` while at the same time claiming to be the victim. when you call me a char-sau-bees, you have consistently failed even when challenged to produce anything I have said to back your claims.

Thus proving that you are a khaali-matka trying to be a char-sau-bees.

woman-abuser-salim-char-sau-bees: havent found a job yet, i see.

#119 Chacha Char Sau Bees,
Paki Punjus could learn a lot about what being a Pakistani citizen means from Singh - helping fellow citizens rather than looting them, raping them, and killing them. (T)

AYSHA SIDDIQUA of Military Inc. chased out of Pakistan by Military Mafia.

(some details in the news report by mafia apologists are eye-opening)