Saeed Minhas June 5, 2007
#97 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 6:30:34 am
tell me something folio
If the pakis are ``just like us``, why doesn`t a week go by news of some paki somewhere getting busted for terrorism...
India has 7 times as many people as pakiland and almost as many muslims...why were pakis required to register first after 9/11 and not Indians?
How come there are no Indians in gitmo but a bunch of pakis?
If the pakis are ``just like us``, why doesn`t a week go by news of some paki somewhere getting busted for terrorism...
India has 7 times as many people as pakiland and almost as many muslims...why were pakis required to register first after 9/11 and not Indians?
How come there are no Indians in gitmo but a bunch of pakis?
#98 Posted by Chennai on June 7, 2007 6:35:11 am
Re:#95 by Folio:
Folio, if they want economic betterment they need to do one hell of a lot of things before even dreaming of getting there.....
They could start with maybe acknowledging that they have zilch arab genes :))
Seriously, I know what you mean but I``m afraid it looks like a lost cause......
My take is , better the military than the mullah..........
Folio, if they want economic betterment they need to do one hell of a lot of things before even dreaming of getting there.....
They could start with maybe acknowledging that they have zilch arab genes :))
Seriously, I know what you mean but I``m afraid it looks like a lost cause......
My take is , better the military than the mullah..........
#99 Posted by Folio on June 7, 2007 6:35:42 am
Arjun,
I dont agree with you.
Not ALL Pakistanis support terrorism. Pl read their newspapers. Unless the reporters are Hindus or Christians, the news reported must be wrong, if they really support terrorism.
I know a lot of middleclass British who support one or other kind of action form their men (terrorism?) but NOT ALL advocate such action.
There`s one Indian Muslim who once a jihadi wrote a book recently. He dissected the extremsim in British Muslim society. Does he support terrorism. Of course not!
On ourside we have a Chowkie by name sanatani. He enjoyed the murder of Samjhouta passengers. What wud Pakistanis say abt Indians then? All Indians are extremists?
We need to see the `big` picture.
We discuss politics on Chowk. We remove ppl from our thoughts. We talk abt the official policies of Pak. Unfortunately they had the most unreprsentative govt there. How then the official polcies be dubbed as the will of the ppl of Pakistan?
I dont agree with you.
Not ALL Pakistanis support terrorism. Pl read their newspapers. Unless the reporters are Hindus or Christians, the news reported must be wrong, if they really support terrorism.
I know a lot of middleclass British who support one or other kind of action form their men (terrorism?) but NOT ALL advocate such action.
There`s one Indian Muslim who once a jihadi wrote a book recently. He dissected the extremsim in British Muslim society. Does he support terrorism. Of course not!
On ourside we have a Chowkie by name sanatani. He enjoyed the murder of Samjhouta passengers. What wud Pakistanis say abt Indians then? All Indians are extremists?
We need to see the `big` picture.
We discuss politics on Chowk. We remove ppl from our thoughts. We talk abt the official policies of Pak. Unfortunately they had the most unreprsentative govt there. How then the official polcies be dubbed as the will of the ppl of Pakistan?
#100 Posted by Chennai on June 7, 2007 6:37:52 am
Arjun, to give credit to our Muslims, none were ever involved in 9/11 and other shennigans and we have more muslims than Pure land..................
#101 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 6:40:44 am
#99 by Folio on June 7, 2007 6:35am PT
I`m sure there`s 10% of pakis who probably-maybe don`t support terrorism...but the propensity of pakis to get busted for terrorism on a regular basis means regardless of what you say, they`re not just like us..
Take the case of the united kingdom...tons of indians, tons of pakis...guess who`re the fundemantalist nuts and who`re blowing up subways and planning to blow up discos and poison people?
I personally think pakis a whole different species...homo jihadis`r`us..
I`m sure there`s 10% of pakis who probably-maybe don`t support terrorism...but the propensity of pakis to get busted for terrorism on a regular basis means regardless of what you say, they`re not just like us..
Take the case of the united kingdom...tons of indians, tons of pakis...guess who`re the fundemantalist nuts and who`re blowing up subways and planning to blow up discos and poison people?
I personally think pakis a whole different species...homo jihadis`r`us..
#103 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 6:42:20 am
#100 by chennai on June 7, 2007 6:37am PT
yup..absolutely...pakis give muslims a bad name...even their ummah homies knew it..I posted a report about britain a few years ago. non-paki muslims look suspiciously at their fellow muslims who travel a lot to the land of the pure...
yup..absolutely...pakis give muslims a bad name...even their ummah homies knew it..I posted a report about britain a few years ago. non-paki muslims look suspiciously at their fellow muslims who travel a lot to the land of the pure...
#104 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 6:44:08 am
hey Folio..there are two sides in afghanistan...guess which side the pakis are on...yup..it`s this one
#105 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 6:45:05 am
#102 by Folio on June 7, 2007 6:41am PT
OK, Chennai and Arjun, I give up. I may be wrong
mission accomplished then...
I`m here to convince misguided Indians, not make friends with pakis...
OK, Chennai and Arjun, I give up. I may be wrong
mission accomplished then...
I`m here to convince misguided Indians, not make friends with pakis...
#106 Posted by Chennai on June 7, 2007 6:47:10 am
Re: # 102
Folio: I understand exactly what you say & mean, hell my heart says the same thing but lets look at ground realities.......<><>
Folio: I understand exactly what you say & mean, hell my heart says the same thing but lets look at ground realities.......<><>
#107 Posted by Urstruly on June 7, 2007 7:53:59 am
ARIF JAAN - Victim of criminal aggresion of NaPak Fouj upon the people of Pakistan

#108 Posted by Zeena on June 7, 2007 8:40:21 am
Re:#85 mohar sahib
Yes, I agree with you.Unfortunately, BB, Nawaz and others are proven failed politicians.
But, still I believe that the worst kind of democracy is much much more better than the military govt..................and that`s the fact.
Pakistan has had been hijacked by Military rulers most of the years........and whenever army has to plunder and loot poor pakistanis, they hijack them and then start taking their own advantages, and that`s another cruel fact......
Yes, it`s the people who need to realise that and again it`s the people who should say,NO to army..................
Yes, I agree with you.Unfortunately, BB, Nawaz and others are proven failed politicians.
But, still I believe that the worst kind of democracy is much much more better than the military govt..................and that`s the fact.
Pakistan has had been hijacked by Military rulers most of the years........and whenever army has to plunder and loot poor pakistanis, they hijack them and then start taking their own advantages, and that`s another cruel fact......
Yes, it`s the people who need to realise that and again it`s the people who should say,NO to army..................
#109 Posted by masadi on June 7, 2007 10:01:29 am
bjk writes <<< Sir, I have not read all the interacts but am surprised at your choice of using expletives! >>>
Sorry to have upset your sensibilities, sometimes frustration at knowing the obvious but being powerless to do anything about it results in expletive use, as regards the US elite and their supporters like tahmed who are killing our folk directly and indirectly, expletive use is quite mild, others by their posts deserve those expletives, where they are misplaced, I apologize...
Sorry to have upset your sensibilities, sometimes frustration at knowing the obvious but being powerless to do anything about it results in expletive use, as regards the US elite and their supporters like tahmed who are killing our folk directly and indirectly, expletive use is quite mild, others by their posts deserve those expletives, where they are misplaced, I apologize...
#110 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 7, 2007 10:15:35 am
Zeena #53 {``Salim mian on the other hand has proven himself a real gentleman on this board.......Salim Mian .I am so very proud of you.....We both are standing up for absolutely different causes,but, we both did not disrespect each other, rather we acknowledged eachother`s POVs......
Now, this is the kind of democracy that we need...
Salim Mian
You have set an excellent example of democracy.....Please, teach tahmed and others the same democratic attitude.Thanks ``}
Zeena Behen,
Thank you for respecting my point of view and for acknowledging that, while we may have differences in opinion, we need to allow everyone to speak and present their viewpoints. I have always found you to be polite, compassionate, intelligent, and caring. Your motives are usually right and you take a stand. While we may agree as in the case of the Jamia Hifsa ladies or disagree about laying the entire blame on MQM for the May 12 tragedy, we both manage to respect each other.
I have been trying to convince Mr. Tahmed against his deep-seated bigotry against Urdu-speaking Mohajirs and especially his vehement opposition to the repatriation of ``stranded`` Pakistanis in BD. Unfortunately, this person, who normally tries to come across as a liberal democrat and a patriotic person, is in reality a hypocrite. He abandons all values of freedom, fairplay, and democracy when it suits his bigotry and embraces the same values when it suits his ethnic agenda. I think that he is far worse than the genuinely abusive and annoying characters like Zeemax, Ali1, Atif2, Ally, Khamkhwa, and Ass Lame.
Thanks for your post.
Now, this is the kind of democracy that we need...
Salim Mian
You have set an excellent example of democracy.....Please, teach tahmed and others the same democratic attitude.Thanks ``}
Zeena Behen,
Thank you for respecting my point of view and for acknowledging that, while we may have differences in opinion, we need to allow everyone to speak and present their viewpoints. I have always found you to be polite, compassionate, intelligent, and caring. Your motives are usually right and you take a stand. While we may agree as in the case of the Jamia Hifsa ladies or disagree about laying the entire blame on MQM for the May 12 tragedy, we both manage to respect each other.
I have been trying to convince Mr. Tahmed against his deep-seated bigotry against Urdu-speaking Mohajirs and especially his vehement opposition to the repatriation of ``stranded`` Pakistanis in BD. Unfortunately, this person, who normally tries to come across as a liberal democrat and a patriotic person, is in reality a hypocrite. He abandons all values of freedom, fairplay, and democracy when it suits his bigotry and embraces the same values when it suits his ethnic agenda. I think that he is far worse than the genuinely abusive and annoying characters like Zeemax, Ali1, Atif2, Ally, Khamkhwa, and Ass Lame.
Thanks for your post.
#111 Posted by arjun2 on June 7, 2007 10:23:48 am
#109 by masadi on June 7, 2007 10:01am PT
as regards the US elite
You`ve openly admitted that the only way you can find gainful employment for your skills is when some imperial power wants to supress democracies...that`s the only time anyone will hire you....
as regards the US elite
You`ve openly admitted that the only way you can find gainful employment for your skills is when some imperial power wants to supress democracies...that`s the only time anyone will hire you....
#112 Posted by masadi on June 7, 2007 11:05:06 am
The sob in #111 was claiming that sociologists have no role in the economy and the well being of the people, and the field is useless. Regarding that bs assertion, I informed him of project camelot where the US elite saw the value of sociologists for THEIR OWN society`s economic well being by being informants due to their knowledge of the potential for internal conflict in Latin American countries and how that could be suppressed in order to keep non democratic governments in power, and I also informed him that sociologists being aware of the working of a society are in a much better position than economists to build consciousness among people for their betterment.
This answer he perverted, in his usual dishonest and immoral fashion to conclude that the only gainful employment for sociologists is being tools of imperial powers. Dishonest AHs like him need to ignored.
This answer he perverted, in his usual dishonest and immoral fashion to conclude that the only gainful employment for sociologists is being tools of imperial powers. Dishonest AHs like him need to ignored.
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