Nadeem F Paracha June 12, 2007
#60 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 10:20:04 am
Re: # 57
Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman are non-entities beyond their own district; I would rather pay heed to what Sunni Tehrik itself has to say. In addition, when MQM has people like Babar Ghouri it doesn`t need enemies. His interview with Dr. Shahid Masud leaves little to doubt that what MQM and fouj had been upto prior to and after the masacre of 4/11 at Nishtar Park.
Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman are non-entities beyond their own district; I would rather pay heed to what Sunni Tehrik itself has to say. In addition, when MQM has people like Babar Ghouri it doesn`t need enemies. His interview with Dr. Shahid Masud leaves little to doubt that what MQM and fouj had been upto prior to and after the masacre of 4/11 at Nishtar Park.
#59 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 10:10:22 am
THE POLITICAL INGREDIENTS OF AN ISLAMIC POLITY
By Dr. Israr Ahmad
[Interesting that I absolutely agree with Dr. Israr on his take on American Presidential System]

#58 Posted by iron_mask on June 13, 2007 10:08:35 am
all of you guys - what makes you think NFP is interetsted in all of this. He has just asked you guys to ``fuks off``...dont you read the title of the article....
#57 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 10:02:57 am
Re: # 55
google Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman, this feud has been going on for quite sometime and has resulted in numerous deaths on both sides.
google Mufti Shakir and Pir Saif-ur-Rehman, this feud has been going on for quite sometime and has resulted in numerous deaths on both sides.
#56 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 13, 2007 9:38:21 am
Urstruly,
I had more respect for you when you were just a Muslim. Now, you can join Chacha Chaar Sau Bees and others in the Punju Bigot`s Hall of Shame. Whast a waste of perceived mominocity! :)
I had more respect for you when you were just a Muslim. Now, you can join Chacha Chaar Sau Bees and others in the Punju Bigot`s Hall of Shame. Whast a waste of perceived mominocity! :)
#55 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 9:28:05 am
Re: # 53
The sirkari moulvis of MMA are definitely several degrees worst than the lowest that Pakistani political arena has to offer. These despicable sorry excuse for human beings are direct responsible for the attrocities and crimes that NaPak fouj has committed against the people of Pakistan - among which massacre of school children and disappearance of citizens are most notable. Their crimes against the people of pakistan also include legitmizing an unconstitutional dictatorship, vilation of the constitution of 1973, and being part of an illegal and unconstitutional set up perpetrated by military mafia. Rest assured, I consider MQM way better than these syassi haramzadas.
The factional fighting of ``sunnis and wahabis in frontier`` comes as a news to me. Could you please elaborate.
The sirkari moulvis of MMA are definitely several degrees worst than the lowest that Pakistani political arena has to offer. These despicable sorry excuse for human beings are direct responsible for the attrocities and crimes that NaPak fouj has committed against the people of Pakistan - among which massacre of school children and disappearance of citizens are most notable. Their crimes against the people of pakistan also include legitmizing an unconstitutional dictatorship, vilation of the constitution of 1973, and being part of an illegal and unconstitutional set up perpetrated by military mafia. Rest assured, I consider MQM way better than these syassi haramzadas.
The factional fighting of ``sunnis and wahabis in frontier`` comes as a news to me. Could you please elaborate.
#54 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 9:01:05 am
Re: # 51
Zeemax
How is the security business? iam sure u must be thrilled with all this free marketing.
Zeemax
How is the security business? iam sure u must be thrilled with all this free marketing.
#53 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 8:59:03 am
Re: # 50
{One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year}
For your generous knowledge, it was the Wahabi connection responsible for the attack not Mqm and this has been proven by continued warfare btw Sunni-wahabi factions in Frontier.
{and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution}
Aik tho becharra camel is always given the third degree (broken back). Mqm chose to side with the dictator? You are looking for excuses to perpetuate your narrow minded bigotry, had u been a benevolent, fair minded person u wud have not made this conclusion. MMA was and remains part of the Govt in Baluchistan, runs NWFP and has the leader of opposition enjoying all the benefits. Not one member, not one has resigned from Baluchistan or Frontier as a token of protest, niether has the leader of opposition. So where is the morality, political principles you lament? Duplicity is the name off the game, this is politics and mma like mqm has chosen their political allies.
{One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year}
For your generous knowledge, it was the Wahabi connection responsible for the attack not Mqm and this has been proven by continued warfare btw Sunni-wahabi factions in Frontier.
{and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution}
Aik tho becharra camel is always given the third degree (broken back). Mqm chose to side with the dictator? You are looking for excuses to perpetuate your narrow minded bigotry, had u been a benevolent, fair minded person u wud have not made this conclusion. MMA was and remains part of the Govt in Baluchistan, runs NWFP and has the leader of opposition enjoying all the benefits. Not one member, not one has resigned from Baluchistan or Frontier as a token of protest, niether has the leader of opposition. So where is the morality, political principles you lament? Duplicity is the name off the game, this is politics and mma like mqm has chosen their political allies.
#52 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 8:48:43 am
Re: # 47
Urstruly,
{I am a survivor of ethnic cleansing of MQM}....fast foward.....{The perception of being victim of everyone else on this planet coupled with the healthy dose of hatered is the chemical composition of} change MQM to every self-righteous bigot, huund kuch samaj ayee, gamay.
Its very easy to copy and paste, stereo-type people, counter opinions by demonizing the messenger and forment popular propaganda.
Urstruly,
{I am a survivor of ethnic cleansing of MQM}....fast foward.....{The perception of being victim of everyone else on this planet coupled with the healthy dose of hatered is the chemical composition of} change MQM to every self-righteous bigot, huund kuch samaj ayee, gamay.
Its very easy to copy and paste, stereo-type people, counter opinions by demonizing the messenger and forment popular propaganda.
#51 Posted by zeemax on June 13, 2007 8:45:15 am
What amazes me even more is NFP has the cheek to say:
But had you been on the streets of Karachi on May 12, you too would have realized that each and every political party exhibited the kind of violence MQM is blamed for.
Did `each and every political party` use the entire tanker fleet of the city to block roads (while the residents went without water/fuel and the arriving air-passengers had to wait out 36 hours surviving on biscuits) as well as make the law enforcing agencies disappear in thin air?
But had you been on the streets of Karachi on May 12, you too would have realized that each and every political party exhibited the kind of violence MQM is blamed for.
Did `each and every political party` use the entire tanker fleet of the city to block roads (while the residents went without water/fuel and the arriving air-passengers had to wait out 36 hours surviving on biscuits) as well as make the law enforcing agencies disappear in thin air?
#50 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 8:17:36 am
Re: # 49
Despite being the first hand witness to the attrocities committed by MQM, I actaully had forgiven and forgotten since MQM was begining to enter into mainstream politics albiet under the auspices of a dictator ( who isn`t) but two events have changed my mind. One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution.
Despite being the first hand witness to the attrocities committed by MQM, I actaully had forgiven and forgotten since MQM was begining to enter into mainstream politics albiet under the auspices of a dictator ( who isn`t) but two events have changed my mind. One, the massacre of top leadership of sunni tehrik in Nishtar park last year and the second, which proved to be the last straw that broke camels back was the massacre of 5/12, and how MQM chose to side with dictator instead of a populist democratic movement to restore democracy and constitution.
#49 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on June 13, 2007 8:05:04 am
Urstruly #47 {``. The ethnic hatered that you, salim, and many other MQM supporters spew at this website is in fact the normal discourse that MQM engages its own people in``}
Maulana Sahib,
Somehow your consistently anti-Urdu speaking, anti-Mohajir rhetoric betrays the sincerity of your pan-Islamic and pious self-righteous propaganda. Sir, your mominocity is under suspicion - you come across as a racist, fundo, bigot - albeit with a beard. :(
Maulana Sahib,
Somehow your consistently anti-Urdu speaking, anti-Mohajir rhetoric betrays the sincerity of your pan-Islamic and pious self-righteous propaganda. Sir, your mominocity is under suspicion - you come across as a racist, fundo, bigot - albeit with a beard. :(
#48 Posted by Dash_Dot on June 13, 2007 7:49:21 am
Re: # 47 hhhm! interesting ...but you have just described an interesting psyche : ``The perception of being victim of everyone else on this planet coupled with the healthy dose of hatered is the chemical composition ....``
that Urstruly is fantastic.
that Urstruly is fantastic.
#47 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 7:38:42 am
Re: # 46
I am a survivor of ethnic cleansing of MQM and a witness to the civil war that they initiated in 1985 after Bushra Zaidi got killed in a traffic accident in front of sir syed college. The ethnic hatered that you, salim, and many other MQM supporters spew at this website is in fact the normal discourse that MQM engages its own people in. After Bushra Zaidi case and during many years of war that followed every MQM pamphelet, flyer, and propaganda material used the same language to foster the prejudice and hatered in urdu speaking people against the rest of Pakistan and other ethinicity. Hatered is the prime motivational factor for this organization. The perception of being victim of everyone else on this planet coupled with the healthy dose of hatered is the chemical composition of MQM. The proof is the every thread on this website since the tragedy of 5/12.
I am a survivor of ethnic cleansing of MQM and a witness to the civil war that they initiated in 1985 after Bushra Zaidi got killed in a traffic accident in front of sir syed college. The ethnic hatered that you, salim, and many other MQM supporters spew at this website is in fact the normal discourse that MQM engages its own people in. After Bushra Zaidi case and during many years of war that followed every MQM pamphelet, flyer, and propaganda material used the same language to foster the prejudice and hatered in urdu speaking people against the rest of Pakistan and other ethinicity. Hatered is the prime motivational factor for this organization. The perception of being victim of everyone else on this planet coupled with the healthy dose of hatered is the chemical composition of MQM. The proof is the every thread on this website since the tragedy of 5/12.
#46 Posted by rf786 on June 13, 2007 7:17:00 am
Re: # 45
Urstruly,
``Hum aitraaf karte haiN keh inn dehshatgard qasaaiyon ko hum nay bhi doodh pilaaya hoa hay``
...... Khawaja Asif ML(N) at the joint conference between Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif
Try to maintain some credibility by quoting Punjabis with better standing, not the riff-raffs such as Khawaja-paaja. Only exposes your lack of political understanding and complete subservience to everything against Mqm, even if its a badboodar chauvinistic poonjabi.
Urstruly,
``Hum aitraaf karte haiN keh inn dehshatgard qasaaiyon ko hum nay bhi doodh pilaaya hoa hay``
...... Khawaja Asif ML(N) at the joint conference between Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif
Try to maintain some credibility by quoting Punjabis with better standing, not the riff-raffs such as Khawaja-paaja. Only exposes your lack of political understanding and complete subservience to everything against Mqm, even if its a badboodar chauvinistic poonjabi.
#45 Posted by Urstruly on June 13, 2007 6:47:18 am
QUOTE OF THE DAY
``Hum aitraaf karte haiN keh inn dehshatgard qasaaiyon ko hum nay bhi doodh pilaaya hoa hay``
...... Khawaja Asif ML(N) at the joint conference between Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif.
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