Nadeem F Paracha June 12, 2007
#27 Posted by zeemax on June 12, 2007 12:06:36 pm
#26 by baaghiraja,
Anything else?
No. Though I don`t agree with the contents of this post, but thanks anyway :)
Just curious, why don`t you host some music programmes like HumTV (?) used to do sometime back? I mean with Shallum Xavier etc ...
Anything else?
No. Though I don`t agree with the contents of this post, but thanks anyway :)
Just curious, why don`t you host some music programmes like HumTV (?) used to do sometime back? I mean with Shallum Xavier etc ...
#26 Posted by baaghiraja on June 12, 2007 11:59:49 am
There is a misunderstanding, dude. The irony is I was one of the first journalists to use the word fascist for the MQM. This back in the early 90s during the Army`s Opertation Clean Up against them. The truth is, it took me some time to realize how the Army and the intelligence agencies that were taking us around ``MQM`s torture cells`` almost insisted we use the word fascist in our write-ups. And this time around when I heard some journalist do that again, I just shook my head. It`s a planted word that has nothing to do with what the MQM is all about. I`ve always maintained that it has a violent streak. But had you been on the streets of Karachi on May 12, you too would have realized that each and every political party exhibited the kind of violence MQM is blamed for. Karachi is a complex city with complex politics. Any party here who manages to have big power is bound to end up being labeled as fascist or terrorist. Anything else?
#25 Posted by rf786 on June 12, 2007 11:56:01 am
Re: # 24
{Ok then ... but knowing your bias towards MQM types, if there was a misunderstanding on my part it was justified}
NFP,
Maybe u sud cast zeemax in your show next time, Iam sure ppl will love to hate this self-righteous, pompous character.
{Ok then ... but knowing your bias towards MQM types, if there was a misunderstanding on my part it was justified}
NFP,
Maybe u sud cast zeemax in your show next time, Iam sure ppl will love to hate this self-righteous, pompous character.
#24 Posted by zeemax on June 12, 2007 11:47:44 am
#20 by baaghiraja,
Ok then ... but knowing your bias towards MQM types, if there was a misunderstanding on my part it was justified.
Ok then ... but knowing your bias towards MQM types, if there was a misunderstanding on my part it was justified.
#23 Posted by baaghiraja on June 12, 2007 11:30:56 am
And yes, before I forget, I think Inzi and JJ having chmapaign with Woolmer had something to do with the CJP issue. None with poor Woolmer`s death. So abu jee, should I roll one for you too?
#22 Posted by abu_safwaan on June 12, 2007 11:27:08 am
At least charsi didnt blame Inzi or JJ for the CJP fiasco, see medications do help!
#21 Posted by Kulharee on June 12, 2007 11:26:57 am
Re: # 5
Wolfe, Der Speigal is a German magazine that gets under Bush’s and other world leaders’ skins, in case you didn’t know. And how did you come up with what I wrote as a criticism of Paracha Sahib’s article? Are you sure that I see this as black and white? Caz I am not sure how that might be the case.
Parach Sahib’s article’s whole premise is, and let me quote:
“So I wonder, what is sicker? State brutality or the brutality being turned into a sensational slide show by the channels to improve their ratings and attract viewrship?” (viewer-ship)
He goes on to suggest that independent/private TV is more of a nuisance (in some cases) than the state oppression of media. All the terms used are purely relative and can’t be taken out of context. What may be considered conservative in Karachi might not be Jeddah, like showing female breasts in primetime.
What I was suggesting is that more media is better than less media, even if it means that there will be lots of crappy outlets. Freedom of speech can be dangerous, and the only thing that can lever that danger is more freedom of speech.
Wolfie, I just had lunch with Chaltahai, we talked about you (in a very disapproving way). Wew both think that you suck!
Wolfe, Der Speigal is a German magazine that gets under Bush’s and other world leaders’ skins, in case you didn’t know. And how did you come up with what I wrote as a criticism of Paracha Sahib’s article? Are you sure that I see this as black and white? Caz I am not sure how that might be the case.
Parach Sahib’s article’s whole premise is, and let me quote:
“So I wonder, what is sicker? State brutality or the brutality being turned into a sensational slide show by the channels to improve their ratings and attract viewrship?” (viewer-ship)
He goes on to suggest that independent/private TV is more of a nuisance (in some cases) than the state oppression of media. All the terms used are purely relative and can’t be taken out of context. What may be considered conservative in Karachi might not be Jeddah, like showing female breasts in primetime.
What I was suggesting is that more media is better than less media, even if it means that there will be lots of crappy outlets. Freedom of speech can be dangerous, and the only thing that can lever that danger is more freedom of speech.
Wolfie, I just had lunch with Chaltahai, we talked about you (in a very disapproving way). Wew both think that you suck!
#20 Posted by baaghiraja on June 12, 2007 11:25:45 am
Zeemax, it is political satire and spoof show. We dont tell the guests how to behave. They can be shrilling or drilling, that`s the way it is. The idea is to look at the week`s news in a light hearted manner. Some people love it, some totally hate it. It`s alright if you hate it and this does not mean you don`t have a sense of humor. And the ``shrill witch``has a name too. She`s called Jazmeen Mansoor, famous also for giving PM Shaukat Aziz anxiety pangs in a recent interview she conducted with him.
Read the article again. I am mostly relating what the so-called common people on theb streets that I talked to thought about the whole CJP coverage. I suggest you talk to them.
The monkey clip was part of a segment called ``What happen`s next.`` To which I said the monkey will regress ïnto becoming Bush and thus prove the reverse side of the Darwanian theory. Niether me, nor Fasi Zaka said anything about Imran Khan. And do you know why? Because that would not have been funny. You justb seemed to have heard what you wanted to.
Read the article again. I am mostly relating what the so-called common people on theb streets that I talked to thought about the whole CJP coverage. I suggest you talk to them.
The monkey clip was part of a segment called ``What happen`s next.`` To which I said the monkey will regress ïnto becoming Bush and thus prove the reverse side of the Darwanian theory. Niether me, nor Fasi Zaka said anything about Imran Khan. And do you know why? Because that would not have been funny. You justb seemed to have heard what you wanted to.
#19 Posted by zeemax on June 12, 2007 11:12:32 am
... also Mr. NFP, I shall also be grateful for your revealing who the monkey clip was about?
#18 Posted by zeemax on June 12, 2007 11:10:38 am
#15 by baaghiraja,
Ok thanks for the explanation, but you think that clip was in good taste nevertheless? And that loudmouthed shrill witch of Business channel was acting amused too. Amazing personalities you gather in that zoo.
However, your obvious motive is not the live telecasts of the CJ movement at all because none of them had any sensationalist content nor any violence but just showing the crowds. Your real beef is the live telecasts of 12 May. Isn`t that so?
Ok thanks for the explanation, but you think that clip was in good taste nevertheless? And that loudmouthed shrill witch of Business channel was acting amused too. Amazing personalities you gather in that zoo.
However, your obvious motive is not the live telecasts of the CJ movement at all because none of them had any sensationalist content nor any violence but just showing the crowds. Your real beef is the live telecasts of 12 May. Isn`t that so?
#17 Posted by baaghiraja on June 12, 2007 11:06:54 am
Ana,
When I said ... no, when said that CNN is ``moderate``, I was comparing it with FOX. And the preception it gives about itself. Thus the inverted commas.
When I said ... no, when said that CNN is ``moderate``, I was comparing it with FOX. And the preception it gives about itself. Thus the inverted commas.
#16 Posted by baaghiraja on June 12, 2007 11:03:23 am
I saw that show through and through, Because I was there! The name`s NFP.
#15 Posted by baaghiraja on June 12, 2007 11:02:07 am
zeemax, no he did not and Imran was not the topic. He was the topic of the segment before that in which they showed pics of Sarferaz Nawaz, Chaudary Pervez Ilahi, Altaf Hussain and Ian Botham, and asked NFP who was the odd one out. He said Chaudary P Ilahi. When asked why, NFP said because out of the three he was the only one who didn`t get reverse swing. Meaning, he was the only one not sued by Imran.
And that ``fat guy``has a name. He is called Fasi Zaka, just like the stupid guy here is called zeemax.
Do you have to be abusive all the time?
And fine NFP thought the CJP-MQM event was overblown by the media, and you think it was not. So, why make a fuss. Write an article about it, instead of always abusing your way in the interact section. Chill, yaar.
Lol@arjun2. Good ones. :)
And that ``fat guy``has a name. He is called Fasi Zaka, just like the stupid guy here is called zeemax.
Do you have to be abusive all the time?
And fine NFP thought the CJP-MQM event was overblown by the media, and you think it was not. So, why make a fuss. Write an article about it, instead of always abusing your way in the interact section. Chill, yaar.
Lol@arjun2. Good ones. :)
#13 Posted by arjun2 on June 12, 2007 10:41:23 am
Bubba Clinton had his monica, Dubya has fox news..they`re both providing basically the same service for the respective presidents..


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