Whence Then is Evil?

Re: # 35

dost sahib,

........ question for you ..... i hang out with a lot of hindoo guys - mostly in their forties - and i am amazed by the fact that they seem to know absolutely nothing about their religion ....... is that true or are they just putting me on ? .... any muslim, worth his salt, knows at least the fundamentals of islam and can can recite at least half a dozen ayahs from the koran - what is up with you guys ?........... am i hanging out with fake hindoos or are they just a bunch of drunkards ?

`The leader of a radical mosque besieged by Pakistani security forces in Islamabad has been caught trying to escape wearing a woman`s burqa. Security forces seized Maulana Abdul Aziz as he tried to leave the Red Mosque amid a crowd of women`.

This guy has given the best possible reason to ban the use of tent burqa in non islamic societies.

Gill Saheb:

You have posed the perennial question which has bothered most of us at one time or another. However, I think that it is less of a problem for Indic religions/philosophers. By introducing the concept of `karma`, they have taken the responsibility out of God`s hands and put it squarely into the hands of humans. We may not see justice in this world, the argument goes, but we do see it in the long run - i.e., longer than one life-span.

There are two problems with this approach, though. A basic concept of just system is that justice should not only be delivered but it also should be seen to be delivered. Since, none of us remembers what we did or did not do in the presumed previous birth or births, justice cannot be seen to be delivered.

A more mundane problem with this approach is that it works against establishing an egalitarian society. People become too fatalistic and accept their station in life as a consequence of their deeds in a previous birth instead of trying to change it.

Brainwashing has taken a new meaning with doctors turning religious fanatics. Not just youngsters, but educated people are now willing to be brainwashed and `educated` in nonsense and superstition called religion.

It is high time we recognised the need to ban religion. If ever there was a blaring call to ban religion - muslim, jew, sikh, christian or Hindu, this is it!

Religious brainwashing of youngsters should be made a punishable offence with immediate effect.




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Alas ... what a shaame.

Right at this moment, this guy could have been enjoying an endless orgy with as many as 70 beautiful women in the gardens of paradise. Alas he choose to escape. What a bad deal! So much for the martyrdom shit ....



This guy should be hanged by his balls.


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Re: # 21

Hamidm sahib:

``masadi, jeffrey dahmer, osama, hillary clinton, pete rose, oj simpson ``

Aapne Hillary Clinton ko kyon fit kar diya inke beech mein? Who bhi July 4th ki din. I am beginning to think that you dislike smart women.

Re: # 30

khurram ji

if you wanna know theistic response on this...i would quote sir gill...

Go haath mein jun`bish naheen aankho`n mein tau dum haiy
Rahnay dau abhi saghar-o-meena meray aagay


Regards

khurram: #27

There is no end to my thinking process until I can think consistently. When I see a convincing argument in support of the existence of theistic God, I`ll accept it and share it with other agnostics and atheists. In the mean time, I share my thoughts with the theists hoping they`ll see the light of the day.

According to Ghalib:

Go haath mein jun`bish naheen aankho`n mein tau dum haiy
Rahnay dau abhi saghar-o-meena meray aagay

Be well,

Mohammad Gill

Re: # 27

khurram dear

(((Is this the end of your meditation on God?
Is there a next step?))))

fantastic....i hope even sir gill ,being a freethinker, would have enjoyed it.......You sound to me a guy with great intellectual potential....your couple question on my posts were very relevent and made me your fan.....its a pleasure to see such intellectual talent...khurram dear keep exploring these issues......there is no end or conclusion to these problems....

Re: # 26ballu khan

((((I am yet to see a refutation of the classical problem of evil.

I am yet to see a strong argument for the proof of existence of god))))


you have yet to understand the refutation of the classical problem of evil

you have yet to understand strong arguments for the proof of existence of god


Its amazing to see such idiots ,who are ubnable to understand the basics of these issues,a dime a dozens even in 21th century....

Gill Sahib,
``The conclusion of my essay is that the God the theists have defined and continue defining cannot exist``

Is this the end of your meditation on God?
Is there a next step?

I am yet to see a refutation of the classical problem of evil.

I am yet to see a strong argument for the proof of existence of god.

It is amazing to see superstition of a deity called god running the lives of millions of human beings.

Dr. Sahib, Once we begin to personalize god then it all very murky. I like Spinoza`s concept of god. It makes more sense and keeps this whole evil/good concept in the pants of allah or ram or yahweh or jesus.

Farzana, perhaps morals can also be descibed outside of the religion constructs if we think in terms of social darwinism or even pure biological and psychologal sense. Do unto others has more to do with surviving and procreation than mandate of some angry petulant being sitting high up above taking everything way too personally.

Re: # 22

klpd,

........ good point ! ........ i quit, now ........ bye, bye ........

Re: # 22

klpd ji

((((Why do you swim in the toilet bowl with such delight)))))

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kund hum jins baham jins parwaaz

philosopher ba philosopher bhaand ba bhaand

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Re: # 19

hamidm2 - you are stuck in a rut. You have become an asshole just like the rest of the interactors. Don`t you have any thing better to do in life. Why do you swim in the toilet bowl with such delight?