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As The Drama Unfolds

Asra Nadeem July 5, 2007

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#30 Posted by Tigram on December 21, 2007 12:35:23 am
jihad kay baray mein tum ko kia patta.apna mooon band rakh.
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#29 Posted by muqaddam on July 13, 2007 5:00:53 am
A spirited piece. One hopes more and more Pakistanis will speak out against these Mullahs.
By the way, in almost all Bollywood movies Muslim characters are good (albeit lesser mortals compared to the hero of the film) guys (remember Bollywood takes pride in being a great uniter of faiths through its movies), so that last paragraph is a little out of sync.
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#28 Posted by descent on July 9, 2007 2:37:00 pm
Re: # 4 yea u r right. Islaam does not allow ladies in battle field 2 fight. btttt how these aunties can understand it????? i think there moto is good but there style is bad. Islaam cannot spread by force btt by behaviours.
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#27 Posted by descent on July 9, 2007 2:27:38 pm
yea its very serious topic nowdays. These so called maulanaas really spoil the image of islaam and MADRISSAAS in the world. They donot know the real mening of jehaad. i think they r just xtreemists. They make shelter of innocent children 2 save themselves.
If they really want 2 do jehaad so y maulana abdul aziz wear Burqa 2 hide his identity. so, we should learn QURAAN by our own with its meanings n` change the views of the world by our behaviours.
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#26 Posted by ray on July 9, 2007 1:36:04 am
because of these people muslims are considered as terrorist ansd jihad as terrorist act but in true sense jihad doesnot mean killing people. look into islamic history our prophet did not use ``dhanda``.these people should be punished they are solely responsiible for all the deaths and casualties.
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#25 Posted by HiTLER on July 8, 2007 6:55:25 am
.....and what abt another commando , ghazi rasheed , i think he is main character of this drama`s drop scene.
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#24 Posted by arjun2 on July 8, 2007 6:51:37 am
#1 by zeemax on July 6, 2007 0:00am PT

Aunty zeemax: you`re clutching at imaginary straws...

Get yourself measures for a burkha and pick out a purse already...I`d suggest a red-white-blue color combo....sure to keep you from getting a free vacation at club gitmo....
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#23 Posted by KamranISS on July 7, 2007 9:28:44 am
Re: # 22

``innocent missguided souls``

True. EVERYONE is born innocent and then are misguided.

The parents of these misguided souls, should have marched into the MADrassa many months ago, and removed their children.

They didn`t because they were misguided. And their forefathers before them.
Maybe they thought that each of their children will be given an area of Pakistan to rule over?
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#22 Posted by akber on July 7, 2007 4:34:11 am
the drama as that maybe, but the deaths were real.

all of you who find it amusing should be ashamed of urself to have a laugh on account of innocent missguided souls.

what they did with abdul aziz on national tv was humiliating and un ethical.

having said that both of brothers deserve a death sentence.

i am still waiting for zeena`s comments on issue as she was advocating in favour of jamia hafsa and lal masjid.
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#21 Posted by KaalChakra on July 6, 2007 5:28:55 pm
``Aziz admitted that he and his brother Ghazi had done this many times before``

Come to think of it, it`s hard to believe that walking around in burqa is not a regular practice with ghazi men, given how much advantage it offers over the enemy.

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#20 Posted by KamranISS on July 6, 2007 3:13:07 pm
Re: # 18

Yes.

But it won`t be just the chinese.

It`s ALL countries and people, who see these mad mullah`s and madrassa`s for what they really are.

I hope that all these places of `education` get closed down, regardless of the following claims from Aziz. Who does one trust? No one, it seems.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IG07Df01.html

ATol: Maulana Abdul Aziz has been arrested. Many people believe the way in which he was arrested does not match the actions of a person who preaches to others to sacrifice their lives for the cause.

``Aziz: This is all government propaganda. The night Maulana Abdul Aziz was arrested and brought to [state-run television] PTV, I had just finished a talk show and was on the way out with Ejazul Haq [minister for religious affairs] and the anchor of the program. I saw Maulana Aziz along with security officials. He hugged me, but only touched fingers when Ejaz tried to shake hands with him.
He immediately told me that he had been deceived. He said he was called by a senior official of an intelligence agency with whom he had been in touch for a long time. Since the official could not enter the mosque to meet him [to save his cover and identity] he asked Maulana Aziz to come to Aabpara police station [in walking distance of the mosque] and asked him to dress in a burqa to avoid being identified. [Aziz admitted that he and his brother Ghazi had done this many times before when they were declared wanted by the government]. But as soon as Maulana Aziz left the mosque he was arrested.``
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#19 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 6, 2007 2:55:44 pm
Author,

You wrote, ``My nine year old brother believes that all the Bollywood action where a terrorist is always a Muslim is for real when he sees kids his age walking out of the Lal Masjid carrying guns and shooting at the policemen.``

Where did your borther see nine years old kids shooting at the policemen? Just curious.

Thanks.
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#18 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 6, 2007 2:48:07 pm

Possible engine of the operation?


China supports Lal Masjid operation

BEIJING: China voiced support on Thursday for a crackdown on Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa where armed militants have exchanged gunfire with police and rangers. “As a friendly neighbour of Pakistan, China backs Pakistan’s measures to safeguard social stability and economic development,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told reporters. “We hope Pakistan will ... severely punish the terrorists attacking Chinese people and organisations,” Public Security Minister Zhou Yongkang said, without directly referring to the kidnappings. afp

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#17 Posted by KamranISS on July 6, 2007 2:38:11 pm
Was it Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi, who was prepared to marry a `sinful` female that the ninja`s kidnapped ?

Well, can someone pass on my Islamic offer.

Bissmilla...

I`m prepared to marry 4 ninja girls, as long as they are under 12 years old, and they give up the big danda for a smaller one.
I`m also prepared to accept the other 1,000+ females as ``what my right hand possesses``
(or is it left hand?).

Ameen.
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#16 Posted by Nasruminallah on July 6, 2007 11:35:41 am
The question to ask is who is the maker or breaker here, the wheeler and the dealer, the hand that holds all the strings, the atchitect of dramas like this one, who will rule us, who will leave, who will be in and who will be out and will stay out, who stays and who disappears, who lives and who dies, this nation has always been suckered into believing one thing or the other like cattle and deprived of life like cattle.

these buggers who masquerade as ulemas are ignoramuses, they have served their utility, used like condoms, they have been discredited in public eye, used like condoms; tomorow there will some one else who will play his part in another drama.

This episode like many others in our past call for serious introspection and reflection.
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#15 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 6, 2007 11:10:33 am
mushy is partly to blame for allowing the lal masjid mullahs to get away with so much for so long that it only emboldened them. that is what happens when you try to do or use anything/anyone to remain in power.

at least now i hope he eliminates all the Lal Masjid terrorists and then takes off his uniform.
i was thinking why don`t the paki commandos use the same tactics that the russian special forces used to rescue the kids from beslan using some kind of nerve gas?
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#14 Posted by Inquirer on July 6, 2007 10:21:15 am
Total repudiation of the political power of the Masjid is the only solution. The question is how much destruction will the Mullahs allowed to do before someone else will destroy them?
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#13 Posted by aashee on July 6, 2007 9:42:39 am
You are missing one main character, which is the wife of one of the Molana sahibs.
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#12 Posted by HasanMahmood on July 6, 2007 8:19:55 am
MUSHI DID IT - MUSHI DID IT - MUSHI DID IT

lol,
I was wondering how long someone would take to blame Musharaf and it did not take long. Another BB/Nawaz lover like discoverer showing his true colors. Dude, One idiot like Zeemax is enough for this website. The girl caught with ``Aunty Aziz`` is the daughter not the wife - by the way. The wife is still trying to have everyone killed from inside. I wonder how long it will take for all of these mullahs and maulanias to just vanish.
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#11 Posted by discoverer on July 6, 2007 6:00:31 am
Correction this movies is prodeced by both the Mushi government & Jamia Hafza

you know what i think....

I think that our so called new generation is so arrogant and narrow minded that they are unable to judge between right and wrong. think about the young students sitting inside lal majid. They are blindly following orders. Both lal masjid imams[brothers] CLAIMS that this is so called JIHAD. what the hell, jihad against your muslim brothers??? This is nothing but mass suicide.

On the other hand, mushi doesnot care about pakistan and his` so called golden regime has fuelled this issue at the first place and now many innocent lives are at risk. Beside what can you expect from a dictator.
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#10 Posted by ballukhan on July 6, 2007 5:24:43 am
I think the lal masjid surrender is going to be one of the finest victories of a moderate Pakistani nation.

Long live Pakistan!!!
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#9 Posted by ballukhan on July 6, 2007 3:19:15 am
Please close down these horrible places of brainwashing the young. It is nauseating to see these young and masum children being turned into violent and hate filled demons by these mullahs.
Burn them down. I am glad Mush is doing the right thing now.
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#8 Posted by zeemax on July 6, 2007 3:06:57 am
#6/7 by harish_hyd,

It was earlier reported but proved incorrect. She gave a phone interview to GEO yesterday.
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#7 Posted by harish_hyd on July 6, 2007 3:04:15 am
Many more news accounts also report that Umm-e-Hassan has been arrested.
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#6 Posted by harish_hyd on July 6, 2007 3:01:01 am
#1 by zeemax

....is not aware that the actual commander of the `Ninja Brigade` is his wife Umme-Hassan, who is still in command on the 4th day of siege....

Pakistani mosque chief caught as troops lay siege

Excerpt:

``Television showed Aziz after his capture with the top of his burqa pulled off. A balding heavy-set man with a grey bread, police bundled him into a car. Aziz`s wife, Umm-e-Hassan, was also caught while trying to slip away.``
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#5 Posted by majumdar on July 6, 2007 2:49:52 am
Maulana Zeemax,

(If he was abandoning the movement for personal safety, he wouldn`t have had a group of 60 girls accompanying him)

Aye he should have the magic number of 72 girls.

(Instead, he would have tried to escape in secret. )

More likely to be caught if escaping alone.

Regards
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#4 Posted by rf786 on July 6, 2007 2:25:53 am
Re: # 1

AUNTY AZIZ is a phony just like all other self-professed jihadist. Mdm Umme Hassan for all we know may have taken the first bus out of lal Mandir, then again wtf cares.

How quickly u forget, was it not very long ago when the jahil taliban had their asses whipped and handed on a platter, yet they conti nue to believe things will change on their own.

Kepp spinning cause thats all the moon lady can do.
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#3 Posted by rf786 on July 6, 2007 2:20:01 am
Dear writer,

Nice article, keep writing.
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#2 Posted by muh.adil on July 6, 2007 12:25:18 am
I think you are very good fiction and story reader. It was good to read the plot.

Second i would like to say something to zeemax, dude i have been seeing you here from the day i start coming on this site, there is no conversation in which you don`t interact, good and keep it up and i hope during this time either you will become more towards ``Islamic Thought`` or will leave them. Best wishes for you.
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#1 Posted by zeemax on July 6, 2007 12:00:09 am
Author,

Typically uninformed Shamimist analysis which is so common. If he was abandoning the movement for personal safety, he wouldn`t have had a group of 60 girls accompanying him who tried to create a diversion at the registration stage. Instead, he would have tried to escape in secret.

Most likely, he may have been going for some rendezvous with an allied outfit/leader.

Also the author Madam Shamim is not aware that the actual commander of the `Ninja Brigade` is his wife Umme-Hassan, who is still in command on the 4th day of siege with well over a thousand Hafsa girls while just 350 (excluding the 60 who were part of his plan) have left. In contrast, almost all the unarmed Jamia Faridia boys in the mosque surrendered on the second day. The armed men inside Hafsa still resisting are the `helpers`, not students.

But Shamimists are not supposed to be aware of - let alone ponder - over details. Are they? :)
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Interact Index

    #30 Tigram
    #29 muqaddam
    #28 descent
    #27 descent
    #26 ray
    #25 HiTLER
    #24 arjun2
    #23 KamranISS
    #22 akber
    #21 KaalChakra
    #20 KamranISS
    #19 rafi_aamer
    #18 rafi_aamer
    #17 KamranISS
    #16 Nasruminallah
    #15 Naqshbandi
    #14 Inquirer
    #13 aashee
    #12 HasanMahmood
    #11 discoverer
    #10 ballukhan
    #9 ballukhan
    #8 zeemax
    #7 harish_hyd
    #6 harish_hyd
    #5 majumdar
    #4 rf786
    #3 rf786
    #2 muh.adil
    #1 zeemax

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