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This Is For The Men Who'll Roll Their Eyes

Sidra Omer July 20, 2007

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#58 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:36:28 pm
The Prophet (pbuh) says, " Most perfect are those believers who have good manners and the best among them are , whose behaviour to their wives is kind." Furthre he said, " She, who got married, fulfilled ALL her obligations, kept away from evils, stayed loyal to no other men than her husband, and is truly devoted to her husband, and is dedicated to upbringing her off springs including house keeping, all of these acts are considered equivalent to nafl prayers
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#57 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:35:24 pm
The Prophet(pbuh) says, " She who lowers her gaze before 'ghair mahram' (man that a muslim women has no relationship with, and should veil from) is rewarded with wisdom, she did not yet have."
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#56 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:34:51 pm
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=248169
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#55 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:33:20 pm
regarding women..no one put them under lock..but its far better to for degration and hummiliation of women when they come outside home than that they themselves should realize that it is far better for them to remain inside home...and after experiences.. i am sure..they themselves come to this conclusion....when islam orders anything for men or women..its for his or her benifit..as our creatorknows the BEST that what His creations can do do and what is prohibited for them....we just see the outside loss..but inside it..big profit is being summing up..and if the outwards appearence look bright to us..but thieris heavy loss is ading for the long run.....

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#54 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:32:33 pm
in other place in quran describing hoors...there is written..they have big eyes and they protect it meab\ns lower their gaze..these all are the natural characteristic of women..naturally inculcated in her by the allah almighty...

055.070 In them will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful;-

055.071 Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-

055.072 Companions restrained (as to their glances), in (goodly) pavilions;-

055.073 Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-

055.074 Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-

055.075 Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-

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#53 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:31:56 pm
these are english translation of one of the most beautiful sura of quran--sura rahman....here the allah is describing the conditions of hoors in jannah....
read 72 verse..pavillions here means...khaima...(mastoor and mastoorat means women derived from the same).... so it is characteristics of hoor also that they are restrained in pavillions or houses...
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#52 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:31:23 pm
yaar we also live in this society and observe it in our daily life what happened to a shareef women when she comes out even to fulfill her financial problems and and you when in india also have observed all that..daily on the roads ..and bus -stop...can we change the mentality of the people......no ....
so thats why islam at..the most keep the women inside house..as her honour ..dignity..and pride is not so cheap and low-cost that every vulgur and badmash aur awara used to say anything what he likes... do you know pearlsare kept inside the jewellary shop..inside the shinning case...makmali dibya....these jewels and pearls are not sold on the streets and foot-paths....
similarly women in islam are like pearls... and islams does not allow that these pearls will be spreaded in the bazars and streets.....
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#51 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:30:55 pm
similarly..when women go for job..do you think it is easy...not keep in mind the conditions of Denmark...do you not know what happened in indo-pak region....
when they wait on a bus -stop..kaisay kaisay... comments unai sunna partai hai... log kaisi kasisi nazro sai daiktai hai... ghattiyya remarks pass kartai hai...manchallay seetia bajatai hai...vaino mai baichari aik aurat dhakkay khatti hui jati hai...mard hazrat bhanay bhanay sai uus par girtai hai kai van ko aik dum break lagi..bahanay sai uun ko hath lagatai hai...motor cycle wlay ghar jatai hua offer kartai hain kai aai madam aap ko ghar pohancha dai..qadam qadam par zillat..qadam qadam par...chair khani......qadam qadam par luchhay ..lafangai or obasho ka mujma.....
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#50 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:30:21 pm
regarding if thier are not financial problems...women should take care of house as it is in thier genes to look after house-hold affairs well and in the bestway...mard hazrat chahai ultay latk jai...they cannot take the things as nicely as women take...ghar ko chalana...paiso ka hisaab kitab..committe dal dal kar koi zaiwar ya bari cheez banana...sbzio ..phalo wagahira mai bhao thao karna..bachat ....kifait sheeari...mahinai kai khrarchai ka hisaab...mairai bhai..hazaro kaam asiasai hai kai mard nahi kar saktai..not in thier nature
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#49 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:30:01 pm
very true..no body should be ashamed of choppig vegetables and washing dihes...it is the sunnah of prophet(pbuh)..men and women should equally look after the house affairs.....husbands must help thier wifes in all works to lessen the pressure on her ...she is also human and is tired after whole of that done in homes.....
regarding villages...the condition in pakistan may be more worst than the villages of india....not smoking beedies and playing cards..also many Phung -lovers you see thier...TUUN...LOL ...but see this is jahalat...it has oting to do with islam or any other religion..conditions would not be changed until and unless these villages will be given the light of education and tehzeeb-o-tammudun....

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#48 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:26:37 pm
aray yaar ..mai manta hoo ..yahan india pakistan mai mard hazrat uth kar pani peena bhi haram smagthai hai....biwi ko paoon ki jooti samaghtai hai ..but they are jahil..ignorant people...mostly from village background ...kyukai wo pnay aap ko kuda samaghtai hai ya pir bohat suprrior...but look..this is the cultural way...not religious ruling involved in it....

hamarai nabi(pbuh) khud apnay jooto ko seeta thai..bakri ka dhoodh dhotay tai..ghatr mai gharoo bhi dai diya kartay tai...so all these things are sunnah..so if a man do this..change the nappy.... and help her wife...it ishis "DUTY"...to help her as she is delicate and can be tired after long house work and many internal matters of home...yai mardo ka farz hai...

laikin baat ho rahee hai is kai mutaliq..jaisai kai aap nai farmai kai mai nai mardo kai mutaliq kuch nahi kha...sir ..i have told that ..outside all matters...bring reasonable livelihod for her wife and children is his first responsibility..as in islam...it is his duty...not wife..islami shariah never put "any" restriction on women to come out of house...if not husband..father..if not brothers..if not then the muslim government is responsible...while in quran and many ahadees as in fatwa post is given...internal matters of house are the basic responsibility of a woman...no doubt about that....as fatima(ra) did while ali(ra) did outside work to earn money.....a practical example......
islam put a division in that ..so both do work independlty though dependent fully on each other..but no mixing...no overlapping...no fights ...and no disputes....!!!!
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#47 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:21:33 pm
in those time people have put a blame on the prity of the word love .......

what love ...Bah...its liking not love ....

a boy "likes" a preety face of a woman.....
a boy "likes" her smart figures....
a boy "likes" her young age.....
a woman "likes" his height...
a woman"likes" his smartness...
a woman "likes" his white shaved face ....
a woman "likes" his zero meter car..full furnished house and multi-national company's GM post.....
a woman "likes" that he has only one sister..soon to be married and mother is so old age that she cannot interfere in house hold works and soon ......

I am not talking about "all girls" neither all "men".....


But we call these "LIKINGS" as "LOVE" ...hahahaha.....

love is 180 degrees with likings......

a boy loves very much a girl..ultra pretty.... he has told her that he love him and will not leave him ..after summer vacations... she come with his wieght (80+) and all her face pimpled .... will that boy ready to sit with her in canteen to have a cup of tea ...or he will try a new hunt .....for a slim and beatiful girl....where has that "LOVE" gone..... !!!!!!! where are the promises of "zindgi bhar saath nibhanay kay """"" all vanish ...why ??? is that no love !!!!! what happened ...what a sort of "love" is that !!!!!!

similarly...why a girl (not all plz. ) look for a guy having dashing persoanlity...new car and less family memebers.......why not the same woman loves a jet black man .....having 44 waist and relatively poor..having 5 sisters still to be married... !!!!why not that love "boil" for him......!!!!!!

i accept that pretty things are liked by everyone ....but love is blind ...a world-known saying........

But where this "love" has gone for a black mota man ...if this "love"is really blind .......and why that "love" become """""""6/6"""""" ; ;""" for a pretty ...red-lip....fair shaved....... tall height....slim and smart pretty face .....

why .....tell me why...... if love is really blind then ...why it differentiate between the two men or two women .....

just because we try to wrap up our "Likings" in the cover of "love" and when anything un-usual happened ...we put aside this "love" a miles away.......

The real love starts when a man married with a woman...whatsoever they have differences(not in exceptional cases)..within 1 or 2 months..they become so dependent...so affectionate or so use to to each other that ....despite of face or figure differences...they have a "love" in a tue sense...its not of body...its not of status... its really of soul...and this love is inculcated by the allah almighty in both hearts ..as they used to drive the car of thier lives both equally with love and mutual respect ......if a man or woman leaves for a day or two from house...wife or husband becomes totally upset..h/she do not know what to do..whole of his/her life-set up duisturb.....i the automatic "love" that is produed when both united in a bond of marriage......

i accept that the man and woman have great likings and passions for each other and it i not un-usual that if any becomemore emotional t other in his/her life...but that is not "solid"until and unless marriage would take place.....before taht ...there is surely uncertainty..likings..preferences...hai jusjtojoo kai khoob sai hai khoob tar kahan ...and like that......

and tearing of any "loss" is just for that loss of "likings" not the loss of "love" as i will again say that "Dunya janti hai Ansooan mai siraf maa kai ansoo "sachay" hotay hai " ........and where is no relationship there are ansoo but not "sachay"...it mourning about loss of likings not that of your "love".......


well....the thing which you call "love" i call it " hawis"

hawis for pretty face for both men and women....
hawis for handsome guy/gal
hawis for independent house ..no interference....
hawis for good job guy....
hawis for hoor like girl.....

and the "love" which you are talking about ...only found in ols stories and "afsanay" or punjabi films.....also in Bolly Wood bock-busters.....

such "aflatooni Ishq is only happened to 1 or 2 out of 1000 or even less....

we all(including me) look for our preferences..our goals... our profits..... today one face look better to us..next day...another more beatiful attracts us...ad to both we say ..we love you.... bah....this is shame on the "purity" of the word "love" ...love starts when soul meet each other and thats happns only after mariage..tahts the long-lasting love ...rest all is "maya"......

this is irrelevant to the topic ..but Duswari intentionally tried to twist the topic of the thread by bringing her own "personal eperiences" and then pasting that on me or others...i write this whole long post ......

i end this post ..by the beautiful words of Ibne-Safi...yes the same famous man of his Col.Faridi and Imran series....he is also very good poet.....

Raha-i-Talab mai kon kisi ka, apnay bhi baiganay hai
Chand sa mukhra , raskha-i-ghazala sub janay pahchanay hai
Bil akhir thak har kai yaro, hum nai bhi tasleem kiya
apni zaat sai ishq hai sacha , baqi sub afsanay hai
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#46 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:20:57 pm
know that what is AROUND that words...but do you think that hazrat Aysha(ra) wept in her whole life whenever she used to recite quran and reached at this verse... because she not acted upon these "AROUND" words....!!!!!!!!


do you think that (Naozobillah) she showed her beauty in the Battle of Camel...due to which she wept in the rest of her life.....!!!!!!!!!
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#45 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:19:08 pm
Furthermore ...there is a verse of quran that "stay in home .........". When hazrat aysha(ra) fighted against hazrat li(ra) and latter whenever in life she read this verse..she started weeping for what a mistake she has done in fihting with ali(ra) as Allah is saying that o you believing women stay at home ....and the verse continues
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#44 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:18:39 pm
but still "some" people like Dushwari keep on singing the Songs of West...poor
they think that its nice men and women are equal....while in islam jannah is beneath mother feet ..not father...when someone asked prophet(pbuh) that whats my rights motly deserve to he said 3 times mother and then 4 time father....
in East..despite of all of weaknesses...if a woman come to a bus or wagon...men immediately keep his seat for that woman...if someone's tire puncture on road...the men repair it whetehr he know her or not...but our Slogan Raiser of west will tell us that is the same thing happened in "thier" West also !!!!!!
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#43 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 23, 2007 10:15:49 pm
Also husbands have relatively less control over their sexual needs as compared with wives. If a wife is not able to give time to her husband for his satisfaction, due to her job, than she is doing a sin according to a hadith. " There is a lanat (curse)of Allah on a woman who refuses to sleep with her husband when he needs her" ( Unless she has medical and health problems) Such situations lead to divorce, because when the husband come back home, he is tired and he does not want to see very often that his wife is either not home or too busy to sleep with him.Saying all that, a man should also give full support to his wife in house hold activities and should take responsibility of household activities when his wife is ill or doing some degree in any field of education
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