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Lal Masjid: Lessons Learnt

Muhammad sadiq July 26, 2007

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#1 Posted by masadi on July 26, 2007 11:54:29 am
"implementing the writ of the state"

What state?, when you wipe out the state, as Musharraf did soon after the US list of demands post 9/11 (in a farcial show of fear for the nation's survival, when he handed over sovereignty to the Americans), then it was understood that its going to be a free for all in Pakistan in this new farcical war between the higher thugs and their new enemies, the lower thugs.

The old farcial "cold" war arrived at its end at Pakistan's doors, soon after that US/Pakistan love affair delivered its bastard child, a new "war without end". This is no state it is a whorehouse for the Americans....
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#2 Posted by ztxmdkpqwrsvbmnlkjgf on July 26, 2007 12:43:29 pm
Paksatan is doomed. J&K will see more peace as jihadis fight Paki army and both die.
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#3 Posted by rafi_aamer on July 26, 2007 1:03:54 pm

First, the very idea of implementing the writ of the state, all orchestrated, and executed by those who are allegedly involved in a number of violations of the constitution and thereby the state, seems ridiculous.


Well said. The only word that doesn't ring true in the above quote is "allegedly".

Rafi
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#4 Posted by arjun2 on July 26, 2007 12:50:52 pm
you made the decision to radicalize your own population - spread the islamic fervour - to generate a critical mass of jihadis who you then thought would go fight your fights in kashmir and afghanistan...now that's coming back to bite you in your rear..

schadenfreude..
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#5 Posted by nasah on July 26, 2007 5:49:07 pm
Is that you Maulani Aziz in Burqa..?
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#6 Posted by echoboom on July 26, 2007 8:51:06 pm
How to send the KanjarooN packing...some advice for the Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry
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#7 Posted by harish_hyd on July 27, 2007 12:01:22 am
Close officers advise Musharraf to quit

Islamabad, July 27: Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has been advised by his top military commanders to quit in the wake of the restoration of Chief Justice Iftikhar M Chaudhry, a daily reported on Friday.

During his six-day long discussions with his top military aides in Rawalpindi, after the reinstatement of the Chief Justice by the Supreme Court, Musharraf was advised to seek an "honourable exit", The News quoted unnamed sources as saying.

Though the President did not react to the suggestions, the sources said he might make a decision after his return from an official tour of Saudi Arabia, where he's likely to raise this issue with the Saudis in a bid to find "a way out of the political mess without any loss of face".

There was a consensus in the presidential camp during the discussions that Musharraf was in such a situation that even former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto's political support could not bail him out, the sources said.

"Musharraf is now at the dead end of the tunnel."

In fact, the Supreme Court judgement has come as a major shock for Musharraf, according to the sources. "The ball is now in the court of the Chief Justice who himself will not be able bail him out because of the high expectations people have developed after his restoration as the top judge."

However, while talking to the daily, President's spokesperson General Rashid Qureshi has denied having any knowledge of any such advice being given to Musharraf by his close military aides. He termed as "speculation" the reports that the President was advised to quit.
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#8 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 12:05:25 am
Rejoice!



Burqas/dandas - out. Cheerleaders/PomPoms - in.

(Wonder from where they recruited them though. Heera Mandi?)
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#9 Posted by masadi on July 27, 2007 12:32:09 am
#7 "Islamabad, July 27: Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has been advised by his top military commanders to quit in the wake of the restoration of Chief Justice Iftikhar M Chaudhry, a daily reported on Friday.

During his six-day long discussions with his top military aides in Rawalpindi, after the reinstatement of the Chief Justice by the Supreme Court, Musharraf was advised to seek an "honourable exit", The News quoted unnamed sources as saying. "


Ha ha, what have I been saying for a long time now, that these crisis were manufactured by the US occupation force because the Mush man had fallen out of favor with the US. It was a foregone conclusion that the CJ would be restored because the decision was made by the Supreme Court not independentaly but by support of the US occupation force (aka Pak Army). Musharraf should take the advice of the "commanders" and then sublease the Mian's summer home in Saudi Arabia, if he wants to live that is, or soon the hellfire with the mullah's fingerprints on it will be sent homing towards his a$$ by the Americans......keep watching as the events unfold
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#10 Posted by jayp on July 27, 2007 1:07:19 am
Lessons learned for

The jihadis, do not kidnap chinese, especially brothel owners.

The govt, one lal masjid a year will keep the yanks away, and prove that pak govt is anti-taliban.

For the YLH and tahmeds, well no one believes that jihadis are trained and lodged in remote areas. They are right in their capital, trained in military combat in islamabad.

For the so called liberals of pakistan, the likes of zeemax concerned about the killing of the jihadis, well you have a choice, who should deliver the jihadis to heaven, the pak troops or daisy cutters.

For individual jihadis, the best they could ever long for, shehdad at the door step.

For the indians, well only a little reduction in the numbers to be delivered to jihadic heaven.

For the pak media, they are still fighting about whether Ghazi should be called " martyred" or killed. This is the pathetic state of the pak media.
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#11 Posted by jayp on July 27, 2007 1:13:44 am
Lesson for the tahmed, once again shows the involvement of the US forces in pak affairs. All of the lal masjid affair is created by the americans. They created the jihadis during afghan war, now they are killing them again due to afghan war.

For musheraff, well here is another source of income, Tell the yanks that he needs more money to fight the jihadis, this time in the pak capital.

For YLH the economist, yes the pak GNP goes up again, more money from the US, per capita income of pakistan will be more than that of india, if a few more lal masjids happen.

For the ordinary pakistanis, another slaughter, this time by the govt with so much of TV coverage. They have seen so many by the local jihadis, a few hundred get killed every day in every city, now they are killing even for mobile phones, Life si becoming cheaper in pakistan.

For organ traders, here comes another good harvest.
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#12 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 1:32:03 am
#9 Posted by masadi,

But masadi, wouldn't it have been simpler to just have him shot out of the sky like Zia?
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#13 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 1:52:14 am
Author,

Very sensible article. Thanks.

But the lessons will be ignored by the arrogant Pakistani liberals as usual, to their great misfortune as well as to their country as we know it.

So if Musharraf thinks attacking a few Madrassahs can effectively eradicate terrorism, he is wrong.

Small correction here. Musharraf has no clue about terrorism just as Bush doesn't. Both want to eradicate 'Islam'. In that attempt they will bring great miseries on everyone concerned because Islam refuses to be eradicated.

Zawahiri was right when he recently called Musharraf the 'Apostate ruler of Pakistan'.
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#14 Posted by Chennai on July 27, 2007 2:49:28 am
It looks likes nothing was learnt out of this bloody mess...

27 July, 2007--BBC News
Unrest at siege mosque reopening

Students at the mosque have a reputation for radicalism
Hundreds of religious students at Pakistan's Red Mosque in Islamabad have prevented a government-appointed cleric from leading prayers at its reopening.
The students chanted slogans against President Pervez Musharraf and pushed journalists out of the building, which has been repainted and repaired.

They demanded the return of the mosque's detained pro-Taleban former chief cleric, Abdul Aziz.

The Islamabad mosque was the scene of a bloody siege that ended on 11 July.

"I was told everything would be peaceful. I was never interested in taking up this job and after today I will never do it," the government appointed cleric, Mohammad Ashfaq told AFP news agency as he left the mosque with a police escort.

Correspondents say the students stopped him speaking at the mosque's pulpit and used the microphone to condemn the government raid on the mosque.


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#15 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 4:02:39 am
Looks like the Red Mosque turned into 'Peach' mosque and then turned red again ...

Pakistan Islamists Retake Mosque, Paint Walls Red

27/07/2007

ISLAMABAD (AFP) -Islamists occupied Pakistan's Red Mosque and began repainting its walls in their original colour after it reopened following this month's bloody army raid, an AFP reporter and police said.

Hundreds of protesters, formerly students at the hardline Islamabad mosque, took control of the building during Friday prayers after chasing out a government-appointed preacher and police.

Five or six people carrying buckets daubed red paint over the outer walls, which had been changed to a peach colour during government renovations, while dozens more unfurled Islamist flags and banners on the roof.

"It is true that rowdy students have overtaken the mosque, they are not letting the prayers be held," a senior security official told AFP on condition of anonymity.
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#16 Posted by Chennai on July 27, 2007 4:14:49 am
#15 Posted by zeemax

The more things change (or seem to) the more they remain the same!
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