Militarily Troubled Pakistan and Terribly Administered Tribals

Re: # 11

Wrong again dear ignorant fool,

Tribal Areas were riled up and politicised in the name of Islam by none other than Frontier Gandhi and his cohorts when they riled up people in the Frontier that Pakistan would not be a sharia-based Islamic state. It was then that Fakir of Ipi was encouraged against the Pakistani state by these brothers who claimed to be "secular" and yet used Islam in the most cynical way.

But one can forgive you for being the ignorant Hindu fascist fanatic that you are... after all you had no idea about Gandhi's role in the Khilafat Movement and Gandhi's encouragement of the Mullahs either did you?

But how about blaming the right people for the right mess for once in you life?

{"The latest gift of wrong Pakistani policies is the US warning of challenging the sovereignty of Pakistan by attacking the Tribals who have been serving as volunteer army for Pakistan and offered volunteer services in conquering the current Azad Kashmir while the army has been enjoying all the perks and portfolios for more than four decades in Pakistan history. "}

Khan Sahib,
Very good article, placing the blame where it belongs - the upper ruling elite of Pakistan!

Whether Mohajir, Sindhi, Baluch, Pathan, Poor Punjabi, or Kashmiri, the long-suffering people of Pakistan have been had by these kala Angrez. They have divided us, manipulated us, killed us, and even bifurcated our country at the altar of their own material well-being. Maybe we need a French Revolution.

Pathan warrior is so great that when he takes a piss next to a wall that has death to Israel written on it, and someone honks their horn he jumps and hugs the very sign he was pissing on. Bravo Bravo.
This other pathan decorated his sohrab bicycle with two bells to give it a stereo ring to it. Nothing like a pathan dressed up in his shiny skull cap riding his bike covered in gold "haars", ringing his stereo bell trying to impress his brothers good looking boys for a date. Its all in the family.

#34 Posted by GT,

GT, I'm still waiting for an answer from HP regarding his assertion of just yesterday, based on the past, that Lal Masjid/Jamia Hafsa was just a 'drama'.

Below is not for the westoxicated scum (copyright echoboom) because they can't read Urdu:

#32 Posted by echoboom,

Yes Echoboom:

Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains; An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

It amazes me when some morons claim the technology is now predators, hellfires ... etc ... What they forget is that the gora was defeated with his superior technology of THAT time, and is being now defeated with his superior technology of THIS time ...

...sigh...

Dear HP,

In #33, I highlighted some of my disagreements with you. Needless to say that I agree with a lot of what yu say. In particular, I strongly agree that if the political leadership that emerges is fundoo then God help Pakistan. The ruling cabal may try to Talibanize Pakistan. If so, a civil war along the lines of the Spanish Civil war (you know what I mean) could well emerge. Foreigners may not be participating ONLY in the Taliban camp!

Dear HP,

Your knowledge about Pakistan, and perhaps even India, is much more than mine. Therefore I shall not question the totality of your assertions. Nevertheless, it seems to me that your predictions about the future and your analysis about the current situation is based solely on past history. Isn't it plausible that something quite different from the past is happening in Pakistan? Could it be the case that the common woman in Pakistan is reacting to state oppression by coalescing around Islamic ideals (in whatever manner it is understood by her)? Isn't it possible that this nascent 'awakening' is actually leader-less as of now but could develop into a full blown agitation against present institutions (state or otherwise)? Note, I like you, do not believe that the people behind the bombings etc. are providing any sort of LEADERSHIP across Pakistani masses, at least not as of now. But aren't they keeping the moot issue alive - the issue that a small segment of the population have been ruling Pakistan without allowing for the political participation of the masses? If so then isn't it possible that if the liberals do not wake up and smell the coffee then the leadership which will emerge to channel this movement is going to be anti-liberal?

If the above possibilities have even an iota of probability then I believe that liberals should move beyond definitions of 'liberal-fascism' and the like. I, actually, think that the label 'liberal-fascist' could be quite appropriate for certain sections of the population in Pakistan and India.

This is what MUSLIMS, from all over the world & not just Pakistan, are wishing praying & looking forward to..a complete removal of the Western & Westoxicated scum from the Paak-Saaf SarZameen..
The Cantonment-Kuttaas on the other hand want the United Satans to continue their eveil presence among the advanced & GHAIRATMAND civilization of muslim Afghanistan, Iran & Pakistan.

Whenever a west-loving mangy, flea-infested, Cantonment mongrel ventures near shareef & learned Mohallas he must be bambooed to the edge of the town..In order to move among muslims he MUST express hatred for the westernised scum.
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The greatest defeat ever experienced by the British Army was that in the Mountain Passes of Afghanistan.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

#27 Posted by Urstruly,

Thanks Urstruly.

The problem is that these liberal-fascists will read the Washington Post, NY Times, at best Daily Times/Friday times, some will even read Dawn. But they will NEVER read Daily Express, Khabrain, Daily Jinnah .... because that is the lowly Urdu press which every ordinary Pakistani (non-elite) reads.

#28 Isn't Ghazi's brother the hero who ran wearing a burqa. LOL LOL LOL on the proud ghazi borthers that defied governemnt and civil insititutions by rallying 15 and 16 year old girls to do thie dirty job. Zeemax there is no difference between them using women to do their dirty job or you posting pics of women in off the wall to make your useless point. FATA will be "serviced" by BATA.

I love the FATA khyber pass with a the flag of Paistan flutteringso proudly and gracefully with the back drop of a calm blue sky with a few F-14s and B-190 bombers dropping their loads off.

#20 Posted by tahmed32 on July 30, 2007 8:08:29 am


And that is why it has inflicted humiliating defeat to the religious parties any time it has had free elections.


And yet ahmedis are non-muslims, fundamentalism is rampant and there a bunch of lal masjids...

tahmed32,

Please comment on the Musharraf/BB deal.

Is this what you liberal fascists are? Who tell lies all the time?

Compare BB with Ghazi who stood by every single word he said and died in the process, just as he had promised.

BB, on the other hand, was called all kinds of names by Musharraf, her accounts frozen (unfrozen today), litigated against to the hilt (some already withdrawn like Oil for Food, plus payment of her legal costs of Surrey mansion), promised never to let her return, she signing the 'Meesaq-e-Jamhuryat' with PML (N), being a part of ARD, part of the APC ... all that. And then turning around and sitting in Musharraf's lap to save his skin in return for his saving her skin? When no one else wants Musharraf in any capacity in Pakistan?

I look forward to your response.

Re: # 25 Zeemax

And following is the picture of new Lal Masjid:




Just in case the picture doesn't print, following is the hyperlink:
http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20070730/Sub_Images/11002338 93-1.jpg

Zeemax,
Its not about what I have done or what you have done, if someone can be so stupid as to take arms because of a slogan "Allah Akbar" and fight a war that has nothing to do with religion, but a geo-political agenda...be it water dispute, or gas pipelines. I say more power to the people that can sell pathan a war in exchange for a mercedes bus. Similarly what good is pashtunwali if the pathan himself is a hypocrite.
Pakisan ka mutlab kiya
FATA kai Illawa Insha-Allah.