Khuda Ke Liye

does any one have info if this film will be screened in the UK.
i would recommend the german film 'other people's lives'a powerful film against totalitarian system.

in the EU cinema is heavly subsidised

one cant compare this with movie with range de basanti...because India is not pakistan....thank god for it

"the only winners here are the United Satans or the
Coalition-of-the-Killing( there! coined another one)."

Why is the United States considered Stan by you. Do you deny that US gives more right to its own people than our own maliks and leaders give to us?

Re: # 166zeemax

Moon se ek baar laga laitay jo maula paani
Dashtay ghurbat mein na youn toakhrain khaata paani

Kaun kehta hai ke paani ko tarastay thay hussain?
Un ke hoonton ko tarasta raha piyasaa paani

Garchay baidard ne piyaasa hi kiya zibah unko
saabeeron ki magar aankhon mein na aaya paani

Mushk liye haath mein hazratay shabeer ki daikhay to koi
Nehar qadmon mein thi aur moon se naan maanga paani.

Zeemax:162

The persons about whom these verses are written, were neither shias nor sunnis. They were just Muslims.
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Apt reply indeed.

I have vowed to myself that I'll never ever use the term Shia or Sunni again..or for that matter W D B or this V or that V...nor will I participate in any discussions, in an open forum, which helps our enemies to divide us. I also do not like to see wedges created among Muslim-Hindu-Sikhs either...the only winners here are the United Satans or the
Coalition-of-the-Killing( there! coined another one).

Allah knows , parrot-like, we keep on talking about the divide/rule formula but again & again parrot-like we keep uttering this & hop into the net of the trappers & poachers, the White Man.

Re: # 165

I think problem is that that people like that in Jamiah Hafsa and Lal masjid stress on submitting to only One Lord (swt) without shirk and Polytheism. They profess that path to our Lord does not go thru a dead man's grave, or thru a living man's will. There is only one path to our Lord and that path is the one that was shown to us by our Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him). In order to make him deviate from this path our Holy prophet (pbuh) was coerced with wealth, threatened with murder, intimidated with attempts on his life, ex-communicated, tortured, and exiled. These are the wages of being on the righteous path. But everytime when there is a Nimrod there is an Abraham (pbuh) to face him; everytime there is a Pharoa there is a Moses (pbuh), everytime there is an Abu Jehl there is Mohammad (pbuh); everytime there is a Yazid there is Hussain (as). Moulana AbdulRashid Ghazi Shaheed has continued this sunnat and faced the Pharoa of his time and has become immortal.

All I am saying is that the people that these are dedicated to, would not approve of it if they were alive. They would much prefer a surah from the quran. Because such poetry and references to karbala are regarded as vagaries in deobandi and wahabi madaris.

The new lal masjid taken over in Mohmand Agency was a Barelvi shrine, so obviously the rocket men dont share Zeemax's enthusiasm for the "one muslim" concept.

The following holds as true for the Hafsa people as it did for the original martyrs:

Mohammad (pbuh) ke ghulam ne jo kee teghoN ke saaye mein
bashar to kya farishtoN se na aise bandagi hogi

hamare khooN ke badle mein ummat bakhsh de Ya Rab
Khuda se hashr mein ye iltijaa Shaheed ne ki hogi

mujhe jaane do paani bhar ke ye Abbas kehte the
kayi din ki pyaasi hai Sakina ro rahi hogi

luti hai jaise duniya Karbala mein ibn-e-Haider ki
kisi mazloom ki duniya na duniya mein luti hogi

#163 Posted by Naqshbandi,

Naqshbandi ... the subject of those verses were neither shias, nor sunnis, nor 'wahabis', nor deobandi, nor barelvi. They were just 'Muslims'. Jamia Hafsa people were the 'same'.

Now what problem do you have with that?

Naqshbandi

I appeal to your good conscience that if you have in your heart as much love for our Master (pbuh) as a grain of rice, you would stop calling Muslims by their sects. There is only one sect in islam, the sect of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).

Ironically they broke up into sects only when the knowledge had come to them, due to the jealousy and resentment among themselves. If it were not for a predetermined decision by your Lord to respite them for a definite interim, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed the later generations who inherited the scripture are full of doubt.

..................... The Council 42:14

adamkhan wasn't calling the martyrs of Karbala Shias but rather referring to the writer of the couplets. You, Urstruly, a self-confessed admirer of the Wahabi Shah Ismail, are now using verses meant as marsiya for Imam e Aali Maqaam for people whose very ideology espoouses a visceral hatred of the Ahle Bayt! Indeed, these Wahabis who were slaughtered in Lal Masjid routinely refer to Imam Hussain as a 'baaghi' and consider Yazid a rightful Amir al Mumineen.

Such hypocrisy!

#161 Posted by adamkhan,

The persons about whom these verses are written, were neither shias nor sunnis. They were just Muslims.

hmm it is quite ironic to dedicate Shia couplets to the deceased members of the Wahabi sect. The departed souls would indeed object to it. While their living fellow members would surely kill you for it.

SaimaShah#125:

"It is of concern that all cultures exposed to untempered capitalism over a few decades lose their art forms."

This is an astounding generalisation. Could you please explain the relationship between Capitalism and the loss of art forms? If your statement were correct, all creative art forms in the last half of the last century would have originated in socialist regimes, such as China, Soviet Union, Cuba, Nyrere's Tanzania or Nehru's India. The reality was quite the opposite. Taking Cinema, which is what we are discussing here, the best of Cinema came from France, Italy, Spain and Sweden and Japan - all of them capitalist countries.

As for India, you are perhaps not exposed to the resurgence of arts there, especially classical music and dance form. Even in the barren land of Ottawa, I get to see, on average, one performance a month of classical music and dance from visiting artists in India. And what I find truly impressive is that the new artists, especially from South and Maharashtra, are well educated, highly articulate and accomplished in other fields as well. Even Bollywood produces some good films but you have to move out of the Karan Johar/Yash Chopra genre of films. In recent times, I have seen quite a few intelligent films, such as Omkaara, Khosla ka Ghosla, Eklavya, Parineeta and Raincoat.

#158 Posted by MantoLives,

Actually they had saved all those rocket launchers and anti-personnel mines for the photo-session after the fact ... so as not to get the shine off them ... and made do with kalashnikovs for 9 days.... :)

The innocents of Karbala did not store weapons in Medina's Masjid-e-Nabvi...

Have some shame.