Yasser Latif Hamdani July 30, 2007
#141 Posted by zeemax on August 1, 2007 1:33:32 am
#129 Posted by mohar11,
...are you going to spare YLH ... target of your guillotine?.....secularoon ..... I mean..how can a qadiani secularoon be a muslim - right?
I'm glad you asked this question. Manto is NOT an enemy of Islam. Only the enemies of Islam are headed towards the guillotines. Being a secular or a non-Muslim is not being at war with Islam. Being a proselytizing murtad, a munafique or a conspirator with the enemy irrespective of caste, creed or colour is.
So I assure you there will be plenty of candidates. Still, your recommendations for the list are welcome.
...are you going to spare YLH ... target of your guillotine?.....secularoon ..... I mean..how can a qadiani secularoon be a muslim - right?
I'm glad you asked this question. Manto is NOT an enemy of Islam. Only the enemies of Islam are headed towards the guillotines. Being a secular or a non-Muslim is not being at war with Islam. Being a proselytizing murtad, a munafique or a conspirator with the enemy irrespective of caste, creed or colour is.
So I assure you there will be plenty of candidates. Still, your recommendations for the list are welcome.
#140 Posted by KaalChakra on July 31, 2007 9:11:03 pm
That's downright weird, manto. Is the movie being (simultaneouosly or later) released in India too? That could be a big market, as well.
#139 Posted by MantoLives on July 31, 2007 8:33:36 pm
Re: #133
The Indian news agencies were trying to promote it as the "much awaited bollywood flick"... untill Shoaib Mansoor stepped in and pointed out that the only thing Bollywood has to do with is one bollywood actor who is there for less than 10 minutes.
The Indian news agencies were trying to promote it as the "much awaited bollywood flick"... untill Shoaib Mansoor stepped in and pointed out that the only thing Bollywood has to do with is one bollywood actor who is there for less than 10 minutes.
#138 Posted by MantoLives on July 31, 2007 8:29:12 pm
Re: # 137
BJ mian,
I haven't responded to most interacts. Just a select few... a total of 10 or 12... out of the 118 non-YLH posts.
For most reasonable people that should be enough evidence... but then we can never commit the sacrilege of considering you "reasonable".
BJ mian,
I haven't responded to most interacts. Just a select few... a total of 10 or 12... out of the 118 non-YLH posts.
For most reasonable people that should be enough evidence... but then we can never commit the sacrilege of considering you "reasonable".
#137 Posted by bjkumar on July 31, 2007 8:05:22 pm
#124 Yasser
Yasser, you can not pull lawyerspeak on me!
You said in #19 you won't be responding to most interacts - but the reality is quite opposite! I see you are sitting here like a stone that won't "pass"! Hence the "fibber" term.
And yes, you are AMONG the people with the maximum no. of interacts (you kindly provided the counts yourself)!
And to write a review, shouldn't you spell the movie's name the way its creators did?! (see the picture in #135)?!
#136 Posted by bjkumar on July 31, 2007 7:59:11 pm
Chowk staff, can you bring back the "review" feature?! This "blind posting" sucks.
#135 Posted by bjkumar on July 31, 2007 7:57:18 pm
I finally got it why Yasser said "warts and all"!
http://www.inthenameofgod.com/images%5Ckkl_w%5CSHAN_1024x768.jpg

#134 Posted by ahmedmadani on July 31, 2007 7:23:42 pm
If this movies helps to start movie industry will be best thing. In usa and India hundreds of thousand people are employed in this industry gainfully. Then movie theatre construction, people giving all services will have multiplying effect and people will get many more jobs. Let us hope it starts new business for peolple create wealth and jobs which sorely needed in country.
As usual YLH has written very good article. Just like me many were afraid if he has left chowk due to his professional work as attorney of left for wrting in big news papers. It is good to know YLH is back.
As usual YLH has written very good article. Just like me many were afraid if he has left chowk due to his professional work as attorney of left for wrting in big news papers. It is good to know YLH is back.
#133 Posted by KaalChakra on July 31, 2007 7:16:00 pm
One hears a lot of excitement about this movie. First, for its theme. Second, for what it may mean for the revival of Pakistani cinema.
With so much talk about it, I am sure it will draw in Indians too. :)
With so much talk about it, I am sure it will draw in Indians too. :)
#132 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 31, 2007 5:03:19 pm
btw, i was watching GEO and i caught something about some person or government minister who has filed a case against this film to try and get it banned on the basis that it misrepresents Islam! Is this true?
#131 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 31, 2007 5:01:18 pm
yasser,
from the trailer it seems to me that naseeruddin shah's character is playing a sufi - 'apna baatin saaf karo; andar aag lagao...' and the other bearded chap is playing a taliban-like wahabi.
this is true. the biggest battle for islam's soul is being fought now between wahabism and orthodoxy. if wahabism wins, it will be a tragic end to one of the world's great religions.
insha Allah Wahabism (and its various manifestations) will not win.
from the trailer it seems to me that naseeruddin shah's character is playing a sufi - 'apna baatin saaf karo; andar aag lagao...' and the other bearded chap is playing a taliban-like wahabi.
this is true. the biggest battle for islam's soul is being fought now between wahabism and orthodoxy. if wahabism wins, it will be a tragic end to one of the world's great religions.
insha Allah Wahabism (and its various manifestations) will not win.
#130 Posted by Naqshbandi on July 31, 2007 4:58:55 pm
Re: # 106
manto,
i hope it gets a europe-wise release too so i can watch it or i will have to wait till the inevitable pirate DVD comes out at least.
i sadly missed the parade in london. i wanted to go but it slipped my mind--even though i was IN london on that day!!
manto,
i hope it gets a europe-wise release too so i can watch it or i will have to wait till the inevitable pirate DVD comes out at least.
i sadly missed the parade in london. i wanted to go but it slipped my mind--even though i was IN london on that day!!
#129 Posted by mohar11 on July 31, 2007 3:50:11 pm
So zeemax - when your type take over pakiland- are you going to spare YLH or is he also a target of your guillotine?... I mean - the guy is a secularoon, you know...
Even though lately he is flaunting his muslim-ness a bit more... for example: he says some thing he saw in the movie "made a muslim" out if him... that's a clear give away - I mean,come on, how can a qadiani secularoon be a muslim - right?
Even though lately he is flaunting his muslim-ness a bit more... for example: he says some thing he saw in the movie "made a muslim" out if him... that's a clear give away - I mean,come on, how can a qadiani secularoon be a muslim - right?
#128 Posted by mohar11 on July 31, 2007 3:43:07 pm
So - a paki turned into a flaming jihadi - what's so poignant about that?...
But may be I will watch this movie - I have never watched a paki movie... Is this available in US? What language is this in - pushtu or something?
But may be I will watch this movie - I have never watched a paki movie... Is this available in US? What language is this in - pushtu or something?
#127 Posted by philosopher on July 31, 2007 1:59:09 pm
#126 Posted by philosopher
sorry... Re: # 10 saimashah
sorry... Re: # 10 saimashah
#126 Posted by philosopher on July 31, 2007 1:57:28 pm
Re: # 10 sai9mashah
((((It also interests me that pantheism as a spiritual practice does not require the global understanding of who 'we' are that Islam does. For example, you can choose what to worship how to worship where to worship etc., without any confusion on the 'right' way. Whereas for the past several hundred years, the debate on the right way to practice Islam has kept people of Islam full of worry, angst and confusion as to what being good is all about))))
So you are suggesting that the mode of worship and its ''social implications'' would determine the technical 'validity' of a certain philosophical system(in this case pantheism and islamic tauheed) dealing with the ontological chrachter of ulitimate reality????
Please explain.
((((It also interests me that pantheism as a spiritual practice does not require the global understanding of who 'we' are that Islam does. For example, you can choose what to worship how to worship where to worship etc., without any confusion on the 'right' way. Whereas for the past several hundred years, the debate on the right way to practice Islam has kept people of Islam full of worry, angst and confusion as to what being good is all about))))
So you are suggesting that the mode of worship and its ''social implications'' would determine the technical 'validity' of a certain philosophical system(in this case pantheism and islamic tauheed) dealing with the ontological chrachter of ulitimate reality????
Please explain.
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