Javaria Farooqui August 1, 2007
#20 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 8, 2007 7:11:42 am
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=248169
enjoy...hehehehe...
enjoy...hehehehe...
#19 Posted by Simon_Templar on August 5, 2007 7:28:03 am
Young girls today should be taught and encouraged to respect themselves and learn to say n-o, NO. While at the same time young boys should be reminded not to take the fairer sex for granted. Like a misbehaving dog, their chain should be yanked whenever they get out of line.
Desi culture not only tolerates, but on several levels celebrates the enslavement of their womenfolk. And it is not just a patriarchal thing. Older women play a big role in undermining the next generation, publicly in the name of tradition and customs, secretly out of revenge and bitterness.
It's sad.
Desi culture not only tolerates, but on several levels celebrates the enslavement of their womenfolk. And it is not just a patriarchal thing. Older women play a big role in undermining the next generation, publicly in the name of tradition and customs, secretly out of revenge and bitterness.
It's sad.
#18 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 3, 2007 9:23:13 am
I dont agree at all with Javiria and neembu...
#17 Posted by neembu on August 3, 2007 6:52:01 am
Ms. Farooqui,
Thank you for this piece, it is quite interesting. I found the Marxian Feminist analysis of unpaid, unacknowledged domestic labor to be even more troubling when applied to issues of gender equity and society. In other words, the subtext of this piece seems to be women cannot transform their societies into more just, representative systems until they are active in all spheres-and their primary labor-domestic-seems to make it difficult for them to organize in political/artistic/economic spheres.
Any thoughts you'd like to share?
re: dawa/echoboom/zeemax sahib
I also agree with Shah2-its not right to try to take over this board in manner you have been. Enough.
Thank you for this piece, it is quite interesting. I found the Marxian Feminist analysis of unpaid, unacknowledged domestic labor to be even more troubling when applied to issues of gender equity and society. In other words, the subtext of this piece seems to be women cannot transform their societies into more just, representative systems until they are active in all spheres-and their primary labor-domestic-seems to make it difficult for them to organize in political/artistic/economic spheres.
Any thoughts you'd like to share?
re: dawa/echoboom/zeemax sahib
I also agree with Shah2-its not right to try to take over this board in manner you have been. Enough.
#16 Posted by neembu on August 3, 2007 6:50:41 am
Ms. Farooqui,
Thank you for this piece, it is quite interesting. I found the Marxian Feminist analysis of unpaid, unacknowledged domestic labor to be even more troubling when applied to issues of gender equity and society. In other words, the subtext of this piece seems to be women cannot transform their societies into more just, representative systems until they are active in all spheres-and their primary labor-domestic-seems to make it difficult for them to organize in political/artistic/economic spheres.
Any thoughts you'd like to share?
I also agree with Shah2-its not right to try to take over this board in manner you have been. Enough.
Thank you for this piece, it is quite interesting. I found the Marxian Feminist analysis of unpaid, unacknowledged domestic labor to be even more troubling when applied to issues of gender equity and society. In other words, the subtext of this piece seems to be women cannot transform their societies into more just, representative systems until they are active in all spheres-and their primary labor-domestic-seems to make it difficult for them to organize in political/artistic/economic spheres.
Any thoughts you'd like to share?
I also agree with Shah2-its not right to try to take over this board in manner you have been. Enough.
#15 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 3, 2007 5:22:37 am
OK...but no opposition yet from javairia...
i know these NGO type agenda women....modern ...in the name of liberty of women...
jut they earn pounds and dollars ..in this regard from thier Masters in West...
i know these NGO type agenda women....modern ...in the name of liberty of women...
jut they earn pounds and dollars ..in this regard from thier Masters in West...
#14 Posted by Shah2 on August 3, 2007 5:15:49 am
#13 Are bhai Dawa it seems like you are young and restless ...
i agree with your ponits to some extent but cant there be two correct why it always have to be 'my way or high way' ...in simple words listen to opposing views also
i agree with your ponits to some extent but cant there be two correct why it always have to be 'my way or high way' ...in simple words listen to opposing views also
#13 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 3, 2007 12:10:19 am
drift ?
what is this ?
yaar meri english itnee achi nahee hai ?
plz..explain in simpler words..
what is this ?
yaar meri english itnee achi nahee hai ?
plz..explain in simpler words..
#11 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 2, 2007 9:43:00 am
dear married sisters...
we have made some boom in eceonmy by letting 50 % of population in "action"...
we have made some growth by letting women in "practical" field......
we have increased our some assets by leeting women to exercisre thier skills.....
but beleive me !!!!!!
we have ruined our generations......!!!!!!
the economy-loss can be recovered in 2 or 3 years........
but the loss of generation will take "generations"....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.paklink s.com/gs/showthread.php?t=248169
we have made some boom in eceonmy by letting 50 % of population in "action"...
we have made some growth by letting women in "practical" field......
we have increased our some assets by leeting women to exercisre thier skills.....
but beleive me !!!!!!
we have ruined our generations......!!!!!!
the economy-loss can be recovered in 2 or 3 years........
but the loss of generation will take "generations"....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.paklink s.com/gs/showthread.php?t=248169
#10 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 2, 2007 9:42:44 am
come on the streets.....shouting for"rights" ...and "equality"...LOL...women want equality although they have a higher place then men in every aspect( do not talk about "utopia" Pakistan ...if women are not treated well it has nothing to do with religion and islam...it has to do with 1000 years living with indians and other factions and adopting thier norms and behaviours toward women )...... let all women be fooled by our "industrial" slogans....let our factories be lighted day and nights...let our companies have tripple shift...go hell the instituion of house...go hell the shattering of bond between family...Paisa zindabad...rokra paindabad !!!!!!!
#9 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 2, 2007 9:42:34 am
make women...the thing which is painted on hoarding boards and postrs on the streets that every men while going look upon them...these black money owners...only need money...where it comes from...how it comes from...no matter....this is industrial era...let all work "toghether"...we as West are already drowned...this little muslim ummah still firmly hold thier institution of house...so let us break this so that no one will dare to challenge our culture..let all be in one colur and same clothes.....just push aside the saying of Napaleon that give me good mothers and i will give you good nation....go the hell Napoleon...!!!!!! make them fool by the slogans of equality of women(they poor not know in islam men and women are not equal..women are at top !!!!)...
#8 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 2, 2007 9:42:23 am
But "modern" West ..says...forget about the institution of house...forget about whether it breaks or constructed...let all women come out of house ...let all potentials be united...let men and women "equally" share to our "economy....these blood-suckers...industrialist...only think about how thier factory's output increased by 15 % yearly....these money-makers...only care about to make women as show-piece ......as a to all world so that there products demands increase drastically......"aurat bator hatiar" ...there formula.....even in a add of a razor blade cannot be completed without a women...make them out of house...give them the briht sparkling neon sign of "rights"... self-independence".......fund the NGO's for this...break the muslim institution of house ..... make them all move toghther in a society...blind them with the shine of money.......
#7 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 2, 2007 9:42:04 am
But you see in"modern" times ..everything is changed...the women are now "independent" .....they earn thier own money...they have thier own pays...this kind of "self realization prestige and pride" have created such things which are poorly damaging the society ...... "i cannot live with your mother and sister... i cannot hear to your mother and nand "chikh chick " all the day... i come home a 6 pm...and your mother start giving her lecture...that i should take care of children...they are also your responsibility...... i do not bring them from "maikay"....arrange me a seperate home....i want new bank leased car....i want new furniture......the husband becomes hot..." I cannot afford your fazool kharchiyay" at this point....respect my moher..she is rue....the wife get furious......" i damn care about your mother... i earn my "own" .... i can arrange new furniture.... i do not "rely upon you"...mugh ko apni torhi si tankha ka tana mat do... i also have the same pay......now husband become out of control..."look..if you give your pay-reference in future... i will .........!!!!!
the fight goes on which at the end of months and years resulted in talaq... i am not saying thats the only reason..but let me say...one major big reason......thats why in recent years...the talaq-rates have grown exponentially.........due to this "self-pride" of pay !!!!!!!!
the fight goes on which at the end of months and years resulted in talaq... i am not saying thats the only reason..but let me say...one major big reason......thats why in recent years...the talaq-rates have grown exponentially.........due to this "self-pride" of pay !!!!!!!!
#6 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 2, 2007 9:41:34 am
thats why the unique poet of history ..iqbal writes in persian...i do not know persian so i quote in urdu......
A muslim aurat ..apnay aap ko ghairmahram ki nigah sai mahfooz rakh to teri goad mai hussain(ra) paida ho ga !!!!!
a muslim aurat apni awaz ko quran sai jila bakhs kyoukai issi awaz nai khattabkai baitay umar(ra) ki taqdeer badal dee thee.....
A muslim aurat ..apnay aap ko ghairmahram ki nigah sai mahfooz rakh to teri goad mai hussain(ra) paida ho ga !!!!!
a muslim aurat apni awaz ko quran sai jila bakhs kyoukai issi awaz nai khattabkai baitay umar(ra) ki taqdeer badal dee thee.....
#5 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 2, 2007 9:41:24 am
jews went on one extreme and christians on other but both lose.....in islam...there is middle-way...your half deen is completed on marrying ...marriage is very pious bond...and after that there is a seperation of works between spouses....mothers do the interior works and fathers do the exterior..as fatima(ra) did the cleaning of house.....grnd flour...and look upon husnain(ra) ..and ali(ra) worked in garden as a peasent to earn livelihood......this is the way that dated from pre-historic times.......
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