Babar Mufti August 4, 2007
#116 Posted by ali_1 on August 8, 2007 9:59:56 am
From the Grade VIII Social Studies textbook in NWFP:
(Original is in Pushto, this is a translation)
CHAPTER 4: Hindu Hygiene
(Omitted, will post later)
_________________________
CHAPTER 5: Why are Hindus such bitter enemies of Pakistan
700 million people in India defecate in the open, there are 120 million 'no toilet' households and 10 million homes with bucket toilets which rely on Dalits or achoots to be removed by hand. Numerous Hindu babies are born in these bucket toilets, as the plop out when full term Hindu women squat over these rusted steel buckets to relieve themselves every morning. The Hindu newborns splash and kick around in the bucket until they are noticed by the mother and picked up. (only boys are picked up, girls are left behind). Someone born in the bucket is bound to hate Pakistan bitterly for the rest of their lives, which literally means Land of the Pure and clean people.
(Original is in Pushto, this is a translation)
CHAPTER 4: Hindu Hygiene
(Omitted, will post later)
_________________________
CHAPTER 5: Why are Hindus such bitter enemies of Pakistan
700 million people in India defecate in the open, there are 120 million 'no toilet' households and 10 million homes with bucket toilets which rely on Dalits or achoots to be removed by hand. Numerous Hindu babies are born in these bucket toilets, as the plop out when full term Hindu women squat over these rusted steel buckets to relieve themselves every morning. The Hindu newborns splash and kick around in the bucket until they are noticed by the mother and picked up. (only boys are picked up, girls are left behind). Someone born in the bucket is bound to hate Pakistan bitterly for the rest of their lives, which literally means Land of the Pure and clean people.
#114 Posted by ajeya on August 8, 2007 9:34:34 am
Re: #113
I have to run now. But good, we will discuss this to the end. And if you have no argument to offer in the end, YOU HAVE TO ADMIT PUBLICLY THAT YOU WERE WRONG.
I'll give you a hint about the line of my arguments "lying by omission".
Catch you soon.
I have to run now. But good, we will discuss this to the end. And if you have no argument to offer in the end, YOU HAVE TO ADMIT PUBLICLY THAT YOU WERE WRONG.
I'll give you a hint about the line of my arguments "lying by omission".
Catch you soon.
#113 Posted by Urstruly on August 8, 2007 9:25:37 am
Re: # 112
" including this kind of material in texbooks is wrong by any standards"
Please elaborate and cite some of these standards that you are referring to and do show how it is wrong. Also explain what do you mean by "this kind of material". Do you think it is purely subjective and has no basis in historically established documented facts? I do not want to know why Hindus "do not do it". Lets keep it focused to Pakistan only.
And yes I do have a tendency to crawl out of "argument" when I get rebuttals like that in #103 & #108. It is merely a waste of time when discourse gets at that level.
" including this kind of material in texbooks is wrong by any standards"
Please elaborate and cite some of these standards that you are referring to and do show how it is wrong. Also explain what do you mean by "this kind of material". Do you think it is purely subjective and has no basis in historically established documented facts? I do not want to know why Hindus "do not do it". Lets keep it focused to Pakistan only.
And yes I do have a tendency to crawl out of "argument" when I get rebuttals like that in #103 & #108. It is merely a waste of time when discourse gets at that level.
#112 Posted by ajeya on August 8, 2007 9:02:28 am
#105 Posted by Urstruly
[So in other words you do not have an answer about curriculum question. That's what I thought. ]
You have crawled away from many arguments in the past when you did not have any answer. So it's very low-class and Islamic on your part to "demand" answers.
Here is the answer you are looking for - including this kind of material in texbooks is wrong by any standards except for Islamic standards. We Hindus could do the same in our textbooks - the only difference would be that it would all be based on historic facts.
But we don't do it.
[So in other words you do not have an answer about curriculum question. That's what I thought. ]
You have crawled away from many arguments in the past when you did not have any answer. So it's very low-class and Islamic on your part to "demand" answers.
Here is the answer you are looking for - including this kind of material in texbooks is wrong by any standards except for Islamic standards. We Hindus could do the same in our textbooks - the only difference would be that it would all be based on historic facts.
But we don't do it.
#111 Posted by arjun2 on August 8, 2007 8:59:38 am
#107 Posted by Urstruly on August 8, 2007 7:44:27 am
goatbrain: I didn't post the curriculum question...you can go look at my posts....like I said, I couldn't care less why pakis got to be such terrorists...
goatbrain: I didn't post the curriculum question...you can go look at my posts....like I said, I couldn't care less why pakis got to be such terrorists...
#110 Posted by ajeya on August 8, 2007 8:56:24 am
#99 Posted by dawa-i-dil
[pakistani textbooks are not filled with hindu relgious personalities..not at all..]
No, they are just filled with bad things about the Hindu religion and Hindus.
[I have heard that he has 14,000 wives...]
This is why you fall under the "ignorant" category. And in any case, he is a mythological figure. Unlike your "prophet".
[i have always said that youre all political leaders are imams of makkars..is there anything false ?????]
But they operate in a democratic framework. Unlike your makkars. No?
[and do you know the meaning of rapist....ignorant fool...]
Yes, one who has sex without the other's legitimate consent, numbnuts.
[he married them ...read history before posting OK]
Learn about your own "prophet", shithead. Your 60-year-old "prophet" had sex with a 17-year-old war booty the same night that he had killed her father and brother. That is the work of a monster.
[pakistani textbooks are not filled with hindu relgious personalities..not at all..]
No, they are just filled with bad things about the Hindu religion and Hindus.
[I have heard that he has 14,000 wives...]
This is why you fall under the "ignorant" category. And in any case, he is a mythological figure. Unlike your "prophet".
[i have always said that youre all political leaders are imams of makkars..is there anything false ?????]
But they operate in a democratic framework. Unlike your makkars. No?
[and do you know the meaning of rapist....ignorant fool...]
Yes, one who has sex without the other's legitimate consent, numbnuts.
[he married them ...read history before posting OK]
Learn about your own "prophet", shithead. Your 60-year-old "prophet" had sex with a 17-year-old war booty the same night that he had killed her father and brother. That is the work of a monster.
#109 Posted by Chennai on August 8, 2007 8:32:00 am
Well, can anybody who is relatively sane and not delusional explain this.......
"The Hindus and the Muslims could not amalgamate each other's way of life to become one nation.The main reason for this difference of cultures, civilisation and outlook was the religion of Islam which cannot be assimilated in any other system as it is based on the principle of...oneness of God....On the other hand, Hinduism is based on the concept of multiple Gods....There lies the difference between the Hindu and Muslim way of thinking.
Ok so why are there more Muslims in India after Pakiland was created.....the "amalgamation" ought not to have happened, if one were delusional enough to believe this tripe......
"The Hindus and the Muslims could not amalgamate each other's way of life to become one nation.The main reason for this difference of cultures, civilisation and outlook was the religion of Islam which cannot be assimilated in any other system as it is based on the principle of...oneness of God....On the other hand, Hinduism is based on the concept of multiple Gods....There lies the difference between the Hindu and Muslim way of thinking.
Ok so why are there more Muslims in India after Pakiland was created.....the "amalgamation" ought not to have happened, if one were delusional enough to believe this tripe......
#108 Posted by laddu on August 8, 2007 7:53:10 am
Hey,
You guys have strange logic. The relationship of animosity is certainly not transitive. Mohammad may have believed that the idolators were his enemy. The converse may not be true.
Paki Islamists believe that hindu idolators are enemy of Islam. The converse may not be true.
That is the strange logic of Paki Islamists.
Nothing wrong, if you can read the logic of Quran. You can understand the way these PAki Islamists think and behave.
You guys have strange logic. The relationship of animosity is certainly not transitive. Mohammad may have believed that the idolators were his enemy. The converse may not be true.
Paki Islamists believe that hindu idolators are enemy of Islam. The converse may not be true.
That is the strange logic of Paki Islamists.
Nothing wrong, if you can read the logic of Quran. You can understand the way these PAki Islamists think and behave.
#107 Posted by Urstruly on August 8, 2007 7:44:27 am
Re: # 106
I think you are lying. The fact that you can't refute any claim in the curriculum has ignited fire under your tail. Otherwise I do not see a reason for your Tourrett's Syndrome.
I think you are lying. The fact that you can't refute any claim in the curriculum has ignited fire under your tail. Otherwise I do not see a reason for your Tourrett's Syndrome.
#106 Posted by arjun2 on August 8, 2007 7:32:21 am
#105 Posted by Urstruly on August 8, 2007 7:06:20 am
huh? the curriculum question wasn't posed to me...I agree with most things there about the hindoos..and personally, I couldn't care less why a paki got the way he is..I don't care that it was his curriculum...or that his mom didn't hug him enough..all I know is that the end result it that the paki is more likely to turn out to be an islamic terrorist..
huh? the curriculum question wasn't posed to me...I agree with most things there about the hindoos..and personally, I couldn't care less why a paki got the way he is..I don't care that it was his curriculum...or that his mom didn't hug him enough..all I know is that the end result it that the paki is more likely to turn out to be an islamic terrorist..
#105 Posted by Urstruly on August 8, 2007 7:06:20 am
Re: # 103
So in other words you do not have an answer about curriculum question. That's what I thought.
So in other words you do not have an answer about curriculum question. That's what I thought.
#104 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 8, 2007 7:01:47 am
abai arjun ...
tell me about this text book information is right or wrong...
Mushy is not my phuppi ka puttar that we are responsible for what he do...
tell me about this text book information is right or wrong...
Mushy is not my phuppi ka puttar that we are responsible for what he do...
#103 Posted by arjun2 on August 8, 2007 6:19:17 am
hey urstruly...your dictator is using artillery and helicopter gunships to whack your paki brothers...did you read the weekend washington post? turns out, the bush administration got the NIE report changed to emphasize the spread of AQ in the land of the pure...to put pressure on mushy's tushy and get him to do exactly what he's doing now...
#102 Posted by Urstruly on August 8, 2007 6:07:17 am
Re: # 100
Yes, I would like to know too, which piece of information is incorrect in the curriculum.
Yes, I would like to know too, which piece of information is incorrect in the curriculum.
#101 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 8, 2007 5:55:23 am
LOL..so whats wrong in all this information..100% correct...
and is thier any Karishna..Arjun..etc etc are thier in these texts books...??? LOL
and is thier any Karishna..Arjun..etc etc are thier in these texts books...??? LOL
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