The New Bedfellows
Babar Mufti August 4, 2007
#100 Posted by Chennai on August 8, 2007 4:01:27 am
Some extracts from Pakistani text-books...
These are extracts from government-sponsored textbooks approved by the National Curriculum Wing (NCW) of the Federal Ministry of Education:
General:
'Who is a Hindu? A Hindu is an enemy of Islam'
'Before the Arab conquest, people were fed up with the teachings of Buddhists & Hindus. Before the arrival of Islam in India, people lived in untold misery'.
'European nations have been working during the past three centuries to subjugate countries of the Muslim world'.
Class IV Text Book:
* The Muslims of Pakistan provided all facilities to the Hindus and the Sikhs who left for India in 1947. But the Hindus and the Sikhs looted the Muslims in India with both hands and they attacked their caravans, buses and railway trains. Therefore, about one million Muslims were martyred on their way to Pakistan.
* The Hindus treated the ancient population of the Indus Valley very badly. They set fire to their houses and butchered them.
* The religion of Hindus did not teach them good things, Hindus did not respect women.
Class V Text Book:
* After the war of 1965, India with the help of Hindus living in East Pakistan, incited the people of East Pakistan against West Pakistanis. In December 1971, the Indians themselves also attacked East Pakistan. As a result East Pakistan separated from us. We should all receive military training so that we can foil the designs of the enemy in the future. (By implication, not even a single Muslim in East Pakistan, including Mujibur Rehman, fought against West Pakistanis in 1971)
* The Hindu has always been an enemy of Islam.
Class VI Text Book:
* In the middle of the city of Deebal (Sindh), there was a Hindu temple. There was a flag hoisted on top of it. The Hindus believed that as long as the flag kept flying, nobody could harm them. Mohd bin Qasim found out about this. The Muslims began to catapult stones at the temple and at the flag, ultimately making it fall to the ground. The whole city became tumultuous and the Hindus lost heart. Some Muslims clambered up the walls of the temple and forced open the door. Qasim's army entered the city and after conquering it, announced peace. The Muslims treated the vanquished so well many Hindus converted to Islam.
* Before the Arab conquest the people were fed up with the teachings of Buddhists and Hindus.
* The foundation of the Hindu setup was based on injustice and cruelty.
* The Hindus who had always been opportunists cooperated with the British.
* The Hindus used to please the goddess Kali by slaughtering people of other religions.
Class VII Text Book:
* Some Jewish tribes also lived in Arabia. They lent money to workers and peasants on high rates of interest and usurped their earnings. They held the whole society in their tight grip because of the ever-increasing compound interest.
* History has no parallel to the extremely kind treatment of the Christians by the Muslims. Still the Christian kingdoms of Europe were constantly trying to gain control of Jerusalem. This was the cause of the Crusades.
* European nations have been working during the past three centuries, through conspiracies or naked aggression, to subjugate countries of the Muslim world. Hindus always desired to crush the Muslims as a nation. Several attempts were made by the Hindus to erase Muslim culture and civilisation.
* The Hindus too wished to ruin Muslim civilisation and culture by destroying Urdu which has been closely associated with the Pakistan Movement.
Class VIII Text Book:
* During the Khilafat Movement Hindus and Muslims were completely united and like brothers and they started to cooperate and live in peaceful togetherness. But as soon as this movement ended, Hindu hatred of the Muslim re-emerged.
* Before Islam people lived in untold misery all over the world.
Class IX Text Book:
* The Hindus and the Muslims could not amalgamate each other's way of life to become one nation.The main reason for this difference of cultures, civilisation and outlook was the religion of Islam which cannot be assimilated in any other system as it is based on the principle of...oneness of God....On the other hand, Hinduism is based on the concept of multiple Gods....There lies the difference between the Hindu and Muslim way of thinking.
* In connivance with the (British) government the Hindus started communal riots and caused loss of life and property. At the time of prayers the Hindus tortured the Muslims by playing music in front of the mosques. Before the commencement of classes the students saluted the portrait of Mahatma Gandhi and Muslim students were also forced to do so.
* Muslims promoted equality and social justice as against the division created by the Hindu caste system.
Class X Text Book:
* The ideology of Pakistan...was a revolt against the prevailing system of India in which Hindu nationalism was imposed on the Muslims.
* Islam gives a message of peace and brotherhood.... There is no such concept in Hinduism. Moreover Islam preaches brotherhood, equality and justice.... On the other hand, the Hindu society is based on caste system which downgrades the entire mankind.
* After the establishment of Pakistan the Hindus and Sikhs created a day of doom for the Muslims in East Punjab.
* The Hindus were encouraged by the (British) government to force the Muslims to join the Congress.
(These extracts have been translated from Urdu which is the standard medium of instruction in Government Schools in Pakistan)
These are extracts from government-sponsored textbooks approved by the National Curriculum Wing (NCW) of the Federal Ministry of Education:
General:
'Who is a Hindu? A Hindu is an enemy of Islam'
'Before the Arab conquest, people were fed up with the teachings of Buddhists & Hindus. Before the arrival of Islam in India, people lived in untold misery'.
'European nations have been working during the past three centuries to subjugate countries of the Muslim world'.
Class IV Text Book:
* The Muslims of Pakistan provided all facilities to the Hindus and the Sikhs who left for India in 1947. But the Hindus and the Sikhs looted the Muslims in India with both hands and they attacked their caravans, buses and railway trains. Therefore, about one million Muslims were martyred on their way to Pakistan.
* The Hindus treated the ancient population of the Indus Valley very badly. They set fire to their houses and butchered them.
* The religion of Hindus did not teach them good things, Hindus did not respect women.
Class V Text Book:
* After the war of 1965, India with the help of Hindus living in East Pakistan, incited the people of East Pakistan against West Pakistanis. In December 1971, the Indians themselves also attacked East Pakistan. As a result East Pakistan separated from us. We should all receive military training so that we can foil the designs of the enemy in the future. (By implication, not even a single Muslim in East Pakistan, including Mujibur Rehman, fought against West Pakistanis in 1971)
* The Hindu has always been an enemy of Islam.
Class VI Text Book:
* In the middle of the city of Deebal (Sindh), there was a Hindu temple. There was a flag hoisted on top of it. The Hindus believed that as long as the flag kept flying, nobody could harm them. Mohd bin Qasim found out about this. The Muslims began to catapult stones at the temple and at the flag, ultimately making it fall to the ground. The whole city became tumultuous and the Hindus lost heart. Some Muslims clambered up the walls of the temple and forced open the door. Qasim's army entered the city and after conquering it, announced peace. The Muslims treated the vanquished so well many Hindus converted to Islam.
* Before the Arab conquest the people were fed up with the teachings of Buddhists and Hindus.
* The foundation of the Hindu setup was based on injustice and cruelty.
* The Hindus who had always been opportunists cooperated with the British.
* The Hindus used to please the goddess Kali by slaughtering people of other religions.
Class VII Text Book:
* Some Jewish tribes also lived in Arabia. They lent money to workers and peasants on high rates of interest and usurped their earnings. They held the whole society in their tight grip because of the ever-increasing compound interest.
* History has no parallel to the extremely kind treatment of the Christians by the Muslims. Still the Christian kingdoms of Europe were constantly trying to gain control of Jerusalem. This was the cause of the Crusades.
* European nations have been working during the past three centuries, through conspiracies or naked aggression, to subjugate countries of the Muslim world. Hindus always desired to crush the Muslims as a nation. Several attempts were made by the Hindus to erase Muslim culture and civilisation.
* The Hindus too wished to ruin Muslim civilisation and culture by destroying Urdu which has been closely associated with the Pakistan Movement.
Class VIII Text Book:
* During the Khilafat Movement Hindus and Muslims were completely united and like brothers and they started to cooperate and live in peaceful togetherness. But as soon as this movement ended, Hindu hatred of the Muslim re-emerged.
* Before Islam people lived in untold misery all over the world.
Class IX Text Book:
* The Hindus and the Muslims could not amalgamate each other's way of life to become one nation.The main reason for this difference of cultures, civilisation and outlook was the religion of Islam which cannot be assimilated in any other system as it is based on the principle of...oneness of God....On the other hand, Hinduism is based on the concept of multiple Gods....There lies the difference between the Hindu and Muslim way of thinking.
* In connivance with the (British) government the Hindus started communal riots and caused loss of life and property. At the time of prayers the Hindus tortured the Muslims by playing music in front of the mosques. Before the commencement of classes the students saluted the portrait of Mahatma Gandhi and Muslim students were also forced to do so.
* Muslims promoted equality and social justice as against the division created by the Hindu caste system.
Class X Text Book:
* The ideology of Pakistan...was a revolt against the prevailing system of India in which Hindu nationalism was imposed on the Muslims.
* Islam gives a message of peace and brotherhood.... There is no such concept in Hinduism. Moreover Islam preaches brotherhood, equality and justice.... On the other hand, the Hindu society is based on caste system which downgrades the entire mankind.
* After the establishment of Pakistan the Hindus and Sikhs created a day of doom for the Muslims in East Punjab.
* The Hindus were encouraged by the (British) government to force the Muslims to join the Congress.
(These extracts have been translated from Urdu which is the standard medium of instruction in Government Schools in Pakistan)
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#99 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 8, 2007 12:30:20 am
Re: # 94
pakistani textbooks are not filled with hindu relgious personalities..not at all..neither we wnt to quote that into our text books..our text books are filled with Ali..Umar..Ibne Waleed.. Bilal...etc etc..
I have heard that he has 14,000 wives...
i have always said that youre all political leaders are imams of makkars..is there anything false ?????
and do you know the meaning of rapist....ignorant fool...
he married them ...read history before posting OK
pakistani textbooks are not filled with hindu relgious personalities..not at all..neither we wnt to quote that into our text books..our text books are filled with Ali..Umar..Ibne Waleed.. Bilal...etc etc..
I have heard that he has 14,000 wives...
i have always said that youre all political leaders are imams of makkars..is there anything false ?????
and do you know the meaning of rapist....ignorant fool...
he married them ...read history before posting OK
#98 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 8, 2007 12:26:38 am
true..but ground realities are always different...
if this not the case ...why there are 56 islamic countries in world instead of 1...
if this not the case ...why there are 56 islamic countries in world instead of 1...
#97 Posted by majumdar on August 8, 2007 12:13:34 am
Dawa bhai,
(what else was between us except islam....)
Isn't everything else immaterial in front of Islam?
Regards
(what else was between us except islam....)
Isn't everything else immaterial in front of Islam?
Regards
#96 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 8, 2007 12:09:40 am
Yaar 1971 was a different scenario..1000 miles away ..2 part ..totally different geography..language..customs ...and rituals...what else was between us except islam....
Pakistan is not in such a bad condition as you are saying...
Pakistan is not in such a bad condition as you are saying...
#95 Posted by rf786 on August 7, 2007 11:54:25 pm
Re: # 87
Nothing can save a country when its people do not wish to live with each other. We have already lost half of the country in 1971 and have done little to keep the rest together. Nuclear capability had its shortterm positive impact but has since lost its effect on nation building. Post 9/11 world has made Pak nukes more of a liability, weapons of death for others are being protected as if though our life depended on it.
Pakistan is on a self-destruct mode and we have nobody to blame but ourselves.
Nothing can save a country when its people do not wish to live with each other. We have already lost half of the country in 1971 and have done little to keep the rest together. Nuclear capability had its shortterm positive impact but has since lost its effect on nation building. Post 9/11 world has made Pak nukes more of a liability, weapons of death for others are being protected as if though our life depended on it.
Pakistan is on a self-destruct mode and we have nobody to blame but ourselves.
#94 Posted by ajeya on August 7, 2007 11:48:10 pm
#93 Posted by dawa-i-dil
[behave youeself ajeya...]
After you...
[i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...]
Neither of them was a "religiou leader". Throw away the Paki textbooks.
[do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???]
Yes. One.
[shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...]
Telling the truth is degrading only in Islam.
[have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????]
You want me to play by exactly your rules?
[and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all]
Good. Then fact-based criticism about him should be perfectly acceptable by you. No?
[behave youeself ajeya...]
After you...
[i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...]
Neither of them was a "religiou leader". Throw away the Paki textbooks.
[do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???]
Yes. One.
[shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...]
Telling the truth is degrading only in Islam.
[have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????]
You want me to play by exactly your rules?
[and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all]
Good. Then fact-based criticism about him should be perfectly acceptable by you. No?
#93 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 7, 2007 11:36:44 pm
behave youeself ajeya...
i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???
shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...
have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????
and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all
i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???
shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...
have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????
and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all
#92 Posted by ajeya on August 7, 2007 11:32:29 pm
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#91 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 7, 2007 11:19:46 pm
indian politics..is very stable...LOL
BJP..the poltcal wing of RSS..whose politics move around religious fanatics..and fasaadat..and balatkar..RathYatra of Adwani to shheed Babri Mosque....in Gugraat ..train drama of Sabar Mati Express..then kill 3000 innocent muslims..burn all the shops of muslims in Ahemedabad...
Kill the former MLA ...Ansari in Ahmed Abad from Congress..while he was calling help to everyone ...including Commissoner...but nobody came to his help...
The shameless beast ...ballar kar 7 7 yewars old girls in streets of Ahmedabad...in Cobra Nagar...etc...then burnt these innocent flowers alive....
The Best Backery case in which 18 people were burnt alive..anfd then giving threats to her only witness...and pressurizing her....
Operation Blue Star..when Sikhs were rightly demanding the seperate land for them..kill thousands...destroyed thier holy place...kill thier commander..Bhandrawala....
Nehru Dhoti wala...who promissed in UNO...that he will arrange refrendum in Kashmir..then his dhoti became wet..when half of the Kashmir was snatched by brave tribal and armed forces...then he ran to UNO for war ending....
Giving arms ..training ..and money to sepeartists...in Sindh..like MQM...Jai Sindh....
Giving arms and money to terrorist in Balochistan....Bugti..etc..fdrom 3 counsellate in Afghnaistan of Kandhar...Kabul...and Herat...
This is indian democracy that...6 or 7 provinces want seperation from it...including..
* Jhar Khand
* Mani Pur
* Tri Pura
* Assam
* Kahmir
* Chatees Garh
* West Bengal
This is indin democracy..who gain vote on muslim bloodshed...
have ever heard a single bloodshed in Sindh where hindus are in large number..or in punjab..where Christains are in large no...
this is shining india...which has given by zeemax..by few pics of Kolkatta..Mumbai etc..the dirtiest country on the face of earth....and still claim super power ...hahahaha...
super power to Bhutan..and Nepal...etc
BJP..the poltcal wing of RSS..whose politics move around religious fanatics..and fasaadat..and balatkar..RathYatra of Adwani to shheed Babri Mosque....in Gugraat ..train drama of Sabar Mati Express..then kill 3000 innocent muslims..burn all the shops of muslims in Ahemedabad...
Kill the former MLA ...Ansari in Ahmed Abad from Congress..while he was calling help to everyone ...including Commissoner...but nobody came to his help...
The shameless beast ...ballar kar 7 7 yewars old girls in streets of Ahmedabad...in Cobra Nagar...etc...then burnt these innocent flowers alive....
The Best Backery case in which 18 people were burnt alive..anfd then giving threats to her only witness...and pressurizing her....
Operation Blue Star..when Sikhs were rightly demanding the seperate land for them..kill thousands...destroyed thier holy place...kill thier commander..Bhandrawala....
Nehru Dhoti wala...who promissed in UNO...that he will arrange refrendum in Kashmir..then his dhoti became wet..when half of the Kashmir was snatched by brave tribal and armed forces...then he ran to UNO for war ending....
Giving arms ..training ..and money to sepeartists...in Sindh..like MQM...Jai Sindh....
Giving arms and money to terrorist in Balochistan....Bugti..etc..fdrom 3 counsellate in Afghnaistan of Kandhar...Kabul...and Herat...
This is indian democracy that...6 or 7 provinces want seperation from it...including..
* Jhar Khand
* Mani Pur
* Tri Pura
* Assam
* Kahmir
* Chatees Garh
* West Bengal
This is indin democracy..who gain vote on muslim bloodshed...
have ever heard a single bloodshed in Sindh where hindus are in large number..or in punjab..where Christains are in large no...
this is shining india...which has given by zeemax..by few pics of Kolkatta..Mumbai etc..the dirtiest country on the face of earth....and still claim super power ...hahahaha...
super power to Bhutan..and Nepal...etc
#90 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 7, 2007 10:15:22 pm
1971 war issue ..i have already given the reasons
#88 Posted by ahmedmadani on August 7, 2007 9:06:15 pm
Re: # 71 Masadi I agree with you. Appointed people can not make democracy. You are right but you need to be moderaate in expressing.
I hope YLH can contribute to discussion as he knows big people in lahore politics and will be good to hear from him his feelings about what Punjabi heart land thinks
I hope YLH can contribute to discussion as he knows big people in lahore politics and will be good to hear from him his feelings about what Punjabi heart land thinks
#87 Posted by ahmedmadani on August 7, 2007 9:02:14 pm
Re: # 69
1971 will not be repeated for now there is atmomic reality of superior atomic bombs by us. ( all world experts have concluded pakistani design and yield in Kilotons is far higher than Indian. More bigger cities means more targets). If the stage comes due to spilitist encouragement from India general will make atomic attack and cripple india before split occurs.
Also soniya gandhi is not Indira Gandhi.
1971 will not be repeated for now there is atmomic reality of superior atomic bombs by us. ( all world experts have concluded pakistani design and yield in Kilotons is far higher than Indian. More bigger cities means more targets). If the stage comes due to spilitist encouragement from India general will make atomic attack and cripple india before split occurs.
Also soniya gandhi is not Indira Gandhi.
#86 Posted by bjkumar on August 7, 2007 8:33:03 pm
#85 FerozK
The past as a prelude to the future?!
Will this nightmare ever end?!!
#85 Posted by ferozk on August 7, 2007 8:01:24 pm
Benazir Bhutto would like nothing better than to be the prime minister and see the powers of the presidency limited. Musharraf would like an alliance with Benazir's party and still retain his presidential powers, i.e. a weak prime minister's office.
How these issues are accomodated, will decide the future of Pakistani politics and the rhetorical justifications for this act as an explanation to the people of Pakistan.
Ciao
How these issues are accomodated, will decide the future of Pakistani politics and the rhetorical justifications for this act as an explanation to the people of Pakistan.
Ciao
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