A Pakistani-American in India

Laddu and Kalchakkra

bring me a single hindu..not from India..but from whoel world..which is parallel to Dr Zakir in hindu scripture understanding....

actually..you are just shameful how he defeated Sri Sri Shankar Jee..and smacked down him fully on 21 January...2006..in Banglore...with event..concept of God..in hinduism and islam...

Re: # 659

kashmir is the core issue..lets wait when Al Qaeda will just to leave Iraq and Afghanistan after defeating...your whole india ..will me a little mouse for Al Qaeda..as it has already defeated the forces of 3 continents and whole Europe(NATO)....as per Gen Aslam Baig said yesterday...

laddu, dawa bhai, I don't know how to put it more politely, relying on zakir naik type for understanding Gita is like relying a pig to explain what is in the Harvard Medical School's Handbook on Cleanliness (or you can reverse that and make him a Professor of Cleanliness and the Gita the manual for pigs - hardly matters).

Bhaiyon, the two have the not the remotest connection. But it definitely is a fault of the Hindus for letting Zakir Naik (an Indian - that always amazes me) be a 'spokesperson'.

Re: # 657

Hey Dawah ji,

that is purely a dawah propaganda from Zakir Naik. You can believe it because it suits your monotheistic agendas.

Re: # 655

We would love to ship to pure land those who want to live in a muslim home land!!

Re: # 616

Well, one thing that is happening now is that more and more people who consciously choose to lead unIslamic lives (polytheists and idol worshippers and such) are beginning to look into the Quran themselves. The challenge is to do so as objectively as possible. It shouldn't be done to abuse Muslims or to denounce Islam. If the Quran is studied objectively but from a non-Muslim point of view, the excercise would be beneficial for both Muslims and non-Muslims.

ROFL.. Kaalchakra, whatever spin anyone tries to put on it and how much ever objective I look at the Quran, It has just hellfire and brimstone to offer for the polytheists/idolators.

If you look at the history of Mohammad and his hordes, they grew up in a polytheistic society and are given the freedom to preach whatever they liked. Mohammad was not the only one who claimed he was the "prophet" at that time. There were a few others too who claimed to speak to God. Just that his story stuck because of the right circumstances.

Mohammad claimed "persecution from polytheists in Mecca" and fled to Medina with his gang (called Mohajirs ) where he had some supporters called "Ansars". There were a few jewish tribes in Medina at that time that got ethnic cleansed over time.. Then the "believers" marched on victoriously over the "polytheists" in Mecca and from that day I beleive not even a single "polytheist" was allowed to set his/her foto in Mecca. "Idolatory/Polytheism" is the worst sin in Islam/Quran and the folks who practise it come in for some "very special treatment".

You can see the parallels from the above story in the case of India, Pakistan and Mohajirs..

You yourself ask for the study of Quran to be objective but enforce the limits on it (that is not to denounce Islam / Muslims). I don't think that would be called an objective study based on facts and truth. maybe "objective study according to Sharia"..

:-)

Ras #621

A good part of this post is a reiteration of the Pakistani establishment’s decades-old refrain that the Kashmir dispute is the key - the ‘core issue’, that it has retarded the development of the nations of the Indian subcont --- sorry, ‘South Asia’, that its resolution on Pakistan’s terms will usher in a new era. All that was lacking was that tired cliché, ‘ground realities’. The internal causes of past under-development in these countries, the endogenous reasons for India’s rapid current development, Pakistan’s internal political dynamic, and the Pakistani establishment’s imperatives for insisting on only a certain kind of ‘solution’, are nowhere mentioned.

These inanities have been beaten into the ground so many times, and so thoroughly, that a repetition would be pointless. What might merit passing mention is Ras sahib’s assertion that

{{India's future energy source may be coming through both Pakistan and Bangladesh. It is best to be on good terms with both of them.}}

Here is a looming alternative scenario that Ras sahib and other Pakistanis might want to consider. In twenty years from now, a good portion of India’s energy might be coming from Olympic Dam in Australia, or from Niger, or South Africa. In thirty-five years, a large and increasing fraction might come from the beach sands of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, and Orissa. In the very long term, perhaps, from sea-water – one way or another. Clean, compact, non-polluting, zero-emissions, virtually inexhaustible.

If Pakistan overplays its hand it risks being left high and dry with absolutely no benefit from India’s economic boom. By trying to be a barrier preventing Indian access to Central Asia, it will guarantee that India preferentially invests in every other alternative first, and ensure that India has absolutely no positive stake in Pakistan.

Knowing the usual grandiose Pakistani delusions, I expect that something like this will actually happen. Thirty years from now, the current gap between India and Pakistan might have grown manifold. Meanwhile, on some successor to Chowk, Pakistani intellectuals may be holding forth on ‘Kashmir – the core issue’, pointing to ‘ground realities’, insisting that “the ball is India’s court”, reassuring themselves that “Pakistan is not that far behind”, etc. etc., as though nothing has changed.

i already said that ...Gitas negate idol worship..but you people blindly follow...pundits ..not your scriptures...

dawa-i-dil, array yaara, I pray to those damn stones, and when bored, I pray to HP Himself. Even to zee, except that Zee is too Muslim to this unGodly behavior so I need to pray to Him without Him knowing about it. My prayers are for fun alone. 47, 48, 49 - my prayers are too weak to change those things :)

Re: # 653 fine..we will give you funds ..as we love minorities...but i am saying why you not give 200 millions muslims thier seperate homeland inside india...why ???

Re: # 651 those prayers workeed in 1947 also...hehehe..remember

clifton bi ji,

I am not interested in re-building already desecrated temples or broken idols.
As per the Agama shastra we should immediately discard the broken idols.
I am interested in building a NEW 100 acre land temple in Islamabad- perhaps a feat no one would have accompalished since the days of partition in Pakistan.

Re: # 637

hey clifton bi ji,

I told you, I have many muslim friends in India who come to my home and appreciate the Ganesha idol installed in my drawing room and do not feel offended.

I want to built a huge temple in Islamabad!!

If prayers will help, will do my best to keep you sober. :) :)

I mean to say..even 1947 ..your " in divideable Dharti MAtta" waw divided..so better for indians to divide it more ..rathet than Ghazvai Hind start...

arjun..why you coward hindus not give 200 millions muslims thier basic right of freedom...

as you once not given to Kashmiris ..for 60 years..????