The 'poor' Neighbour

#226 Posted by mohar11,

Yaar Mohar, you feed people any shyte and they will believe it. Whenever any Pakistani says that, just ask him the same questions I asked you.

Where's the evidence?

Your arguments are exactly like Rumsfeld's. "If we don't have any evidence of it's existence, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means we haven't found it yet".

He really said that, and that's what you're saying.

#225 Posted by mohar11,

You tell me where it says there was a genocide or pogrom. BTW it was published first in India and only later in Pakistan.

Most pakis already acknowledge this fact of mass scale genocide in bdesh... it's very surprsing to hear you being denial... you being a non-liberaloon and all that...

What does Hamdoor Rehman report say?...it's only partially published - that itself says a lot... doesn't it?

#222 Posted by mohar11,

If the Chinese got hold of any Japanese after the war, they killed them all. Both nations are equally brutal. What's that got to do with the Pak/B'Desh example?

Yaar listen ... You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. There were 90,000 POWs in Bharat for a whole two years. Bharat's allies Sh. Mujeeb and the Muktis were incharge in B'desh. Why was not a single Pak POW brought to trial or even alleged of any war crime by B' Desh?

The answer is, there was no mass massacre. Atrocities towards individuals, yes, but no pogrom.

i mean - prosecution

zee

Point taken... what about japanese atrocities against chinese?... has there been any persecution?... or the point is - there are many cases of atrocities where guilt have not been taken to task...

#220 Posted by mohar11,

...no american has been prosecuted for atrocities in vietnam...

Hmm .. Lt. Calley and Ernest Medina and My Lai massacre.

So much for your ignorance of facts, which leaves no room for debate.

zee

Just because no american has been prosecuted for atrocities in vietnam doesn't mean it didn't happen...

Like I said - you are not differnt from the liberaloon... a true muslim will never deny holocaust bdesh...

[...confirmed by a survey conducted two years ago by the former Pakistan cricket captain turned politician, Imran Khan, in his own constituency of Mianwali. His research showed that 20% of government schools supposed to be functioning in his constituency did not exist at all, a quarter had no teachers and 70% were closed.]

20+25+70=115

kam se kam figures ko sahi tarike se quote karne ka tarika to sikhlo williamabheiya. May be 25 percent of 80 percent which existed. And may be 70 percent which were closed were not counted again in 25 percent without teachers. Just curious, what would the schools without teachers were doing daily? There could not any teaching surely. So may be bachche logs were entertained by a neighbourhood kalandar who showed drama of bandar bandaria ki shadi. Bachche log tali bajao.

#216 Posted by Kamath,

No Islamic Paradise, but certainly a very powerful Islamic bloc.

From wikipedia entry for Vagina Monologues:

[Every year a new monologue is added to highlight a current issue affecting women around the world. The monologue is performed at thousands of local V-Day benefit productions of the play that take place annually in February and March raising funds for local groups, shelters, crisis centers working to end violence against women. In 2003, for example, Ensler wrote a new monologue about the plight of women in Afghanistan under Taliban rule. This Monologue is known as "Under the Burqa."]

May be Ensler should write a Mukhtaran Monologue.

#208 Posted by zeemax

"..Islam is going through a natural upheaval, and it cannot be without violence. One group will emerge from all this as dominant over the others within Islam..."

Do you think Islam will go into an Resurgence Mode and will establish Dar-ul-Islam in the 21st century? Already it is fact Muslim population is prety big almost 2 Billions and still rising and rising, When motivated, inspired and armed by Islamic idealism, zeal etc.Do you think such Islamic Paradise will finally be ushered into our world?

Kamath

#213 Posted by mohar11,

Bring up any hard evidence of Pak mass atrocities in B'Desh in '71. No wikipedia or journalists' musings please.

Or alternatively, you may wonder why none of the Pak POWs was tried as war criminals by Bharat and neither did Sh. Mujib demand the same.

Now, I will ask you, how many Kashmiris have you killed? Is it because they are not Bharti hinuds or is it because they are rebels?

You'll find in the answer why there have been operations in Baluchistan.

Quotes from two places in article:

1. The Vagina Monologues was recently performed on stage to standing ovations.

2. As a result, in many of the more backward parts of Pakistan the local feudal zamindar can expect his people to vote for his chosen candidate. Such loyalty can be enforced. Many of the biggest zamindars have private prisons and most have private armies.

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So is it possible that a bunch of zamindars decided that they wanted to show how "progressive" they are and their loyal "subjects" and "prisoners" from their private prisons were called upon to be vociferous audience of the Monologues? Pakistan me kuchh bhi ho sakta hei. People going through motions of freedom and free thought! Should we expect real democracy in Pakistan within a decade? Surely if people do not feel threatened by the Monologues and all the rest of freedoms then democracy must not be far behind. Abhi Paksitan me democracy ai hi samjho. Wah bhei wah kitni khushi ki bat hei. Pakistani bachcho khade hokar taliyan bajao. Kyunki hamare des me democracy anevali hei.

211/zee

That's I what expect from liberaloon... not from you... only thing worse than killing your own is trying to cover it up with excuses... shame on you... :)