India: The Empire Strikes Back

hamid, I am not into this chest-thumping thingy. Of late I got an email from somebody abt this on 15th Aug.

So, I gave only a small portion of the msg I got and shy abt the post I made, coz I dont like that style of approach.

I can take ur figure, whatevah it is.

Re Folio #4

The numbers you have posted are pure bullshit.

As someone who spent a couple of years at NASA and with lots of friends in the medical profession in the US, I can positively assure you that none of these numbers is true.

While MicroSoft does provide an Indian entree at its cafeterias during lunch, the Indian contingent there doesn't come anywhere near 34% of the employee population.

Yes, I know that the Indian Foreign Ministry's website carries this set of bogus statistics but that doesn't make it true. Surely, it was posted there by some UPwallah or Bihari.

#5 by hamidm2

..... i am not denying the considerable gains india has made in education, but sometimes you guys get carried away with your own bullshit ........

Cut us some slack Hamidm Sahib. As you guys never tire of pointing out, India's problems are much bigger than Pakistan's. And despite that if we've done much better than you, can't you let us bask in the glory of such accomplishments?

PS: if Indians wag their heads, why would that make you dizzy? Shouldn't they be the ones who go dizzy?

Re: # 4

folio,

....... you might want to recheck your numbers since the toatal percentage of foreign medical graduates in USA in 2006 was 25.3% ...... out of this 25.3%, 19.3% were indians and 4.8% pakistanis ...... so if you do the math, about 5% of the total are sideways head-wagging indians - which is enough to make anyone dizzy !

..... i am not denying the considerable gains india has made in education, but sometimes you guys get carried away with your own bullshit ........

I shall add to what Harish said abt Indians.


There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,

38% of doctors in USA are Indians.
12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians.
34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.
28% of IBM employees are Indians.
17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are! Indians.

#2 Posted by aslam644

the other point is this since India produces five times more engineers than US and Europe one never hears about any inventions from there, is there something missing?

You should have read something about the number of patents filed from the Indian offices of GE and Texas Instruments. They far outnumber the ones filed from any other offices (including in the US) of these companies. That said, Engineering graduates in India usually prefer working immediately after they graduate and not pursue research, which is when they can actually go on and invent something.

since lahore didn't have census in those days it's one man's guess that lahore's population was two million, we shall never know for sure.

the other point is this since India produces five times more engineers than US and Europe one never hears about any inventions from there, is there something missing?.

This is a completely one sided article, the moghul empire consisted of the now pakistan, and there is no mention of pakistani achievements in this article.

There is talk about indian engineering graduates, as though the jihadis streaming out of the 13,000 madrassas do not count.

In terms of the global threat, and even in terms of the yearly military spending in terms of weapons and ammunition, the contribution of the pakistani outputs are significant.

It is articles like this that contribute to indo-pak enmity by ignoring the contributions of pakistan.

Once again in the traditions of the mughals, pak army is moving into the border area of waziristan to re-establish teh control right to teh frontiers of the erstwhile empire.

long live pakistan