William Dalrymple August 26, 2007
#67 Posted by swarrier on September 4, 2007 11:41:26 am
I don't have anything original to say about Dalrymple and I confess I have so far liked "The last Mughal", but I think he does tend to favour the florid statement rather than the simple one and some of the accuracy of his statements have been questioned by people like Farrukh Dhondy and Irfan Habib. I of course know very little about Ms.Jehangir other than what I have read in newspapers.
Incidentally this article was published in the New Yorker a couple of months ago.
Incidentally this article was published in the New Yorker a couple of months ago.
#66 Posted by arjun2 on September 2, 2007 1:54:53 pm
naqshabandi...you're eligible for the canadian MM visa and a few million rupees..based on what happened to your great great grandmother...if things don't work out in londonistan or jihadis'r'us, there's always canuckistan....
#65 Posted by arjun2 on September 2, 2007 1:53:47 pm
madani...you forgot...pakiland is ahead in space technology too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAB-wnHwHF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAB-wnHwHF0
#64 Posted by Naqshbandi on September 2, 2007 1:52:20 pm
im not in canada and never have been you fool arjun.
#63 Posted by arjun2 on September 2, 2007 1:47:32 pm
no wonder naqshabandi loves the moguls...they gave his great great grandmother a canadian visa(does that apply even though there was no canada then?)
#62 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 2, 2007 1:41:56 pm
Re: # 61
Still war of fantom fighters going with fantom east India companies and indians are leaving us in dust.Its disease to go back to history and waste energies. People are getting hot and cold about Palestine, Iran, lebanon and not worried about fires burni g around of kashmir, Waji.stan, B.stan. Never understand what is use of studying details of Mr. g or J, what they said. Mr. J s basic message of faith unity and discpine was disbanded and only his western servitude and and submission to vice left. It is pathetic people who so lost completely , like movie addicts to past.
Good night.
Still war of fantom fighters going with fantom east India companies and indians are leaving us in dust.Its disease to go back to history and waste energies. People are getting hot and cold about Palestine, Iran, lebanon and not worried about fires burni g around of kashmir, Waji.stan, B.stan. Never understand what is use of studying details of Mr. g or J, what they said. Mr. J s basic message of faith unity and discpine was disbanded and only his western servitude and and submission to vice left. It is pathetic people who so lost completely , like movie addicts to past.
Good night.
#61 Posted by iron_mask on September 2, 2007 12:50:15 pm
Re: # 9
WOW!
Very true.
When I first read this guy and his work I thought he was okay. BUt soon realised that after a certain point his intellect is pretty mediocre and that the RAJ and EAST INDIA Company was his meal ticket - given that DEsis are the worst historians and don't see the need for historical record and a story.
Added to this, he carries a baggage of Catholic guilt - he afterall studied in teh top Catholic public school of England (which is that one located in Yorkshire - wehre all the catholic go) - Ampleforth College
http://www.yorkshirenet.co.uk/acadinfo/external/links/link.asp?ID=1133 and he carries all that baggage.
BUt as they needs be...he is one of the few people who has taken the trouble to dig through the messy archives and lern the laguage to compile a series of stories.
Nevertheless his journalistic stuff is mudane and rather pedestrain.
HP - hats off to you for calling at as is...
WOW!
Very true.
When I first read this guy and his work I thought he was okay. BUt soon realised that after a certain point his intellect is pretty mediocre and that the RAJ and EAST INDIA Company was his meal ticket - given that DEsis are the worst historians and don't see the need for historical record and a story.
Added to this, he carries a baggage of Catholic guilt - he afterall studied in teh top Catholic public school of England (which is that one located in Yorkshire - wehre all the catholic go) - Ampleforth College
http://www.yorkshirenet.co.uk/acadinfo/external/links/link.asp?ID=1133 and he carries all that baggage.
BUt as they needs be...he is one of the few people who has taken the trouble to dig through the messy archives and lern the laguage to compile a series of stories.
Nevertheless his journalistic stuff is mudane and rather pedestrain.
HP - hats off to you for calling at as is...
#59 Posted by borivili_express on September 2, 2007 10:53:08 am
these hindus have fork tongues, churi ki dhaar se bhi tez
#58 Posted by borivili_express on September 2, 2007 10:51:22 am
Look muslims look, these hindus keep critcising us about blasphemy laws and look at how their secular india treats a slandered who is not even a blasphemere because he said nothing against the hinoods religion:
Man held for slur on Shivaji
2 Sep 2007, 0430 hrs IST,TNN
SMS NEWS to 58888 for latest updates
PUNE: The cyber and economic cell of the city police on Saturday arrested a Bangalore-based software professional for allegedly uploading defamatory statements about the Maratha warrior-king Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj in November last year.
A team comprising of additional commissioner of police (crime) Rajendra Singh, deputy commissioner of police (cyber, economics) Sunil Phulari and assistant commissioner of police Netaji Shinde arrested Kailas Laxman K (25) of Bangalore. Singh told TOI that Kailas has been working in a giant information technology (IT) firm in Bangalore since 2001 and hails from Tamil Nadu.
The team first found out the internet protocol (IP) number of the computer from which the defamatory statement was uploaded in a community page of the Orkut website. "The police took help of Google officials in Bangalore to locate the computer with the detected IP address," he said.
The police also obtained the records of the computer from a private telecom company and then made the arrest. Kailas has been remanded to police custody till Monday. Kailas told police he shared his place with his friends. He refused to admit that he uploaded the defamatory statements.
He said it might have been done by his friends. The police claimed it was Kailas’s computer that was used to upload the statements. It may be recalled that Dhiraj Ghate (32) of Ambilodha colony lodged a complaint in this regard with the Vishrambaug police on November 11, 2006. On that day, infuriated members of various political parties and organisations forcibly closed down city’s cyber cafes
Man held for slur on Shivaji
2 Sep 2007, 0430 hrs IST,TNN
SMS NEWS to 58888 for latest updates
PUNE: The cyber and economic cell of the city police on Saturday arrested a Bangalore-based software professional for allegedly uploading defamatory statements about the Maratha warrior-king Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj in November last year.
A team comprising of additional commissioner of police (crime) Rajendra Singh, deputy commissioner of police (cyber, economics) Sunil Phulari and assistant commissioner of police Netaji Shinde arrested Kailas Laxman K (25) of Bangalore. Singh told TOI that Kailas has been working in a giant information technology (IT) firm in Bangalore since 2001 and hails from Tamil Nadu.
The team first found out the internet protocol (IP) number of the computer from which the defamatory statement was uploaded in a community page of the Orkut website. "The police took help of Google officials in Bangalore to locate the computer with the detected IP address," he said.
The police also obtained the records of the computer from a private telecom company and then made the arrest. Kailas has been remanded to police custody till Monday. Kailas told police he shared his place with his friends. He refused to admit that he uploaded the defamatory statements.
He said it might have been done by his friends. The police claimed it was Kailas’s computer that was used to upload the statements. It may be recalled that Dhiraj Ghate (32) of Ambilodha colony lodged a complaint in this regard with the Vishrambaug police on November 11, 2006. On that day, infuriated members of various political parties and organisations forcibly closed down city’s cyber cafes
#57 Posted by mohar11 on September 2, 2007 10:10:19 am
[...Before the arrival of Timur's son, what was India?
After the departure of Babar's sons, what is India?...]
Wow - only pakis can display such profound ignorance and stupidity...
No wonder pakis are so effed up... :)
After the departure of Babar's sons, what is India?...]
Wow - only pakis can display such profound ignorance and stupidity...
No wonder pakis are so effed up... :)
#56 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 2, 2007 8:33:37 am
Re: # 51
I second you opinion.
It is my feeling why we are backward is our colonial ELITIST attitude as MR.Masadi has elaborated in his seminal book.
Pakistani problem
WE DO NOT DO EASY GOOD DEEDS AS THEY ARE EASY , WE DO NOT DO DIFFICULT THINGS AS THEY ARE DIFFICULT. RESULT WE DO NOT DO ANY THING.
This problem I feel after 60 years living in this world.
SO sure we are destined to be ruled by overlords till we start doing little things.
I second you opinion.
It is my feeling why we are backward is our colonial ELITIST attitude as MR.Masadi has elaborated in his seminal book.
Pakistani problem
WE DO NOT DO EASY GOOD DEEDS AS THEY ARE EASY , WE DO NOT DO DIFFICULT THINGS AS THEY ARE DIFFICULT. RESULT WE DO NOT DO ANY THING.
This problem I feel after 60 years living in this world.
SO sure we are destined to be ruled by overlords till we start doing little things.
#55 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 2, 2007 8:27:13 am
Re: # 54
Heart of military airmachine is engine and armaments/electronics.
JF17 pakistani and china combined airmachine is best in world according to china airmachine makers. But they have to use engine from Russia ( same as indian supplied Sukov air machine.) I wonder the heart of Irani air superiority jet is chinese made or Russian made. There are always strange things in politics, economy and army. Iran has one of best jets as they say but they have to import high speed disel and petrol as no refinary including from India. Iraqis destroyed coming up Abadan refinery by japanies.What a loss , Iran full gas and oil but short of petroleum. Iranian regime will survive till they can subsidise petrol to countryside if not islamic radicals will take over. It is surprising withh all IITs India canot produce military jets while pakistan and China can. China pakistan can put India to shame by bidding for supplying jet to india airforce.
Heart of military airmachine is engine and armaments/electronics.
JF17 pakistani and china combined airmachine is best in world according to china airmachine makers. But they have to use engine from Russia ( same as indian supplied Sukov air machine.) I wonder the heart of Irani air superiority jet is chinese made or Russian made. There are always strange things in politics, economy and army. Iran has one of best jets as they say but they have to import high speed disel and petrol as no refinary including from India. Iraqis destroyed coming up Abadan refinery by japanies.What a loss , Iran full gas and oil but short of petroleum. Iranian regime will survive till they can subsidise petrol to countryside if not islamic radicals will take over. It is surprising withh all IITs India canot produce military jets while pakistan and China can. China pakistan can put India to shame by bidding for supplying jet to india airforce.
#54 Posted by echoboom on September 2, 2007 7:52:27 am
Here is special preview for the Cantonment Kuttaa[
in case the bitchchode is pretending to have missed it ]
Iran tests new home-made fighter jet
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Iran on Sunday made a successful test flight of its second home-made fighter jet, state media reported.
According to the semi-official Fars news agency, the fighter jet, "Azarakhsh" (Lightning), which was said to be "comparable" to the U.S. F-5 fighter jet, made a successful flight in a ceremony in the central city of Isfahan.
Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar and some other senior military officials attended the ceremony, it said.
"The domestically developed fighter plane is another example of the technological achievements of Iran," Isfahan governor Morteza Bakhtiari was quoted as saying by the official IRNA news agency.
"When the United States is selling its arms to its allies in the region, our country's experts are making huge progress every day toward self-sufficiency in defense," he added.
Azarakhsh is Iran's second homegrown fighter jet after Sa'egheh (Thunder), which has been described as a parallel to the U.S. F-18 fighter jet.
Source: Xinhua..People's Daily of China
in case the bitchchode is pretending to have missed it ]
Iran tests new home-made fighter jet
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07:20, August 06, 2007
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Iran on Sunday made a successful test flight of its second home-made fighter jet, state media reported.
According to the semi-official Fars news agency, the fighter jet, "Azarakhsh" (Lightning), which was said to be "comparable" to the U.S. F-5 fighter jet, made a successful flight in a ceremony in the central city of Isfahan.
Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar and some other senior military officials attended the ceremony, it said.
"The domestically developed fighter plane is another example of the technological achievements of Iran," Isfahan governor Morteza Bakhtiari was quoted as saying by the official IRNA news agency.
"When the United States is selling its arms to its allies in the region, our country's experts are making huge progress every day toward self-sufficiency in defense," he added.
Azarakhsh is Iran's second homegrown fighter jet after Sa'egheh (Thunder), which has been described as a parallel to the U.S. F-18 fighter jet.
Source: Xinhua..People's Daily of China
#53 Posted by echoboom on September 2, 2007 7:46:39 am
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#52 Posted by okhla99 on September 2, 2007 7:19:39 am
Pathetic the way most of us always trying to belittle anyone who tries to make a contribution to nation building. Some may not agree with Asma Jahangir & her work but then what is the point in trying to push scorn & ridicule in her direction? Positive contribution from any one is welcome, these are the sons & daughters Pakistan is proud of. Not the bunch of whiners who have never lifted a finger to help a fellow Pakistani.
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