A Friend of Feudalism

madani saab,

listen to the news, nawaz is back, exiled again, and see what the courts have to say. In a failed state, nothing matters, only the gun, and mushy have them, the jihadis have them and they make the rules.
videostaores will continue to be attacked, barber shops will be burnt. All of you will be in the standard jihadic uniform, the only entertainment will be the killings, and the book.

Ahmed madani sahib,

You never fail to bring a smile on my face. Keep it coming. By the way has the Prince already landed?

Regards

Re: # 144 Mujumdorbhai... forget about past watch future prince and princess of reformed peace and democracy are flying to capital and soon Signature of antifudalism Altafbhai may also join. These are all good omens and harbinger of coming good things. India seems has become unstable and GOI is going for new election.

Manto mian,

(May I suggest that the followers of someone like racist casteist hindu fascist bigot Gandhi who believed black people were subhuman, Indians were of superior "Indo-germanic stock", caste was the natural organisation of humanity and then women ought to stay indoors have no locus standi claiming other movements to b racist.)

Each and every person who follows MKG need not necessarily believe each and every thing that MKG said and did.

Regards

Re: # 141

May I suggest that the followers of someone like racist casteist hindu fascist bigot Gandhi who believed black people were subhuman, Indians were of superior "Indo-germanic stock", caste was the natural organisation of humanity and then women ought to stay indoors have no locus standi claiming other movements to b racist.

Bulleya writes "why do you need to resort to abuse to attempt to make a point......i have never figured this out about people....."

That is because you have not figured yourself out yet, you accuse me of being untruthful about your cheerleading prior to the Afghan invasion and I reproduce your quotes, that is what prompted my "abuse". But instead of taking those and saying you changed your mind, it was the passion of the moment you resort to more untruths by trying to imply that you never supported US action even when you wanted to wear the "uniform" to support the US action together with the Pakistan Army.

Now I know people sway with the wind, some change their views (not the timeline of your views)others are just hypocrites, I think you are in the former and not the latter- tahmed is the hypocrite

#139 Sir Tauheed

There is no Indian here that I see justifying or even condoning casteism – which is against the laws in India.

Virtually all Pakistanis here are VERY BUSY trying to either justify the creation of that epitome of Muslim racism called Pakistan – or, like you, are busy trying to be wishy-washy about it.

The facts in the matter are simple. The US declaration of independence says that “all men are created equal�!

If you believe in that – the corollary is also simple – being a Muslim does not give you or anyone else any extra rights – so Muslims do not have any God-given rights for an extra weight in political matters – which was that vamp Jinnah’s demand and “justification� for creating that basket of Muslim racism called PakistaN!

Every creature here that shies away from that simple fact is a bigoted closet racist and identifies with the Jinnah which – at a deeper level, is not much different from identifying with OBL!

so capt clueless says he was against the invasion of afghanistan...despite people posting his own comments from that time?

why, pray tell, didn't he have "no invasion of afghanistan" printed on his t-shirts instead of a paki flag?

Also, some people could always go back and post what he said about mushy..he was bragging to indians how mushy was some sort of a hero in the eyes of the US junta and how he was invited to camp david...

bj#138 "Here are a few simple common-sense statements that EVERY Pakistani needs drilled in his or her head!...All individuals are to be treated as equal."

Glad to see you Indians (Brahmin and Untouchables alike) are - already understand the evils of a caste-based society - already there and so you can teach muslims the goodness in egalitarianism.

Here are a few simple common-sense statements that EVERY Pakistani needs drilled in his or her head!

All individuals are to be treated as equal. All men and women are to be treated on the basis of one individual equals one vote.

Using one set of rules for Muslims and another for others is just another form of racism. Accept its legitimacy - and you have automatically legitimized the basics of racism.

The creation of Pakistan was a blatant case of Islamic racism! It also was the clear case of successful Islamic terrorism - the first of its kind in the subcontinent which set an example for the later generations of Islamic terrorists that would follow all over the world.

It paved the way for blatant discrimination against other "minorities" (some of whom keep shouting - "Hey, we are Muslims" - to no avail!)

William could have written a better article than this one.

Ras

kaalchakra #132: "After Musharraf the Great, there was a that all rounder cricketer phase - aurangzeb khan or vilaayat khan, or whatever his name is, leading a party called Intihayee-Saaf. Is he still the knight in shining armor?"

an odd question...pls feel free to contact me directly if you need a reply......

actually, i still support musharraf, like i always did, i.e. if the other option is bb or ns (or qazi hussein or fazl ur rahman)......this has always been my argument.......i think he was a better option than these three or four......and still do.....though his stock has gone down.....

as for, the party i support politically, it has always been tehrik-e-insaaf.......and still is.....and i still support imran khan as the candidate for pm.....always did....

outside of this party, i have supported aitezaz ahsan from ppp (assuming ppp happens to get in power, though i don't support ppp as a party, if it has a feudal leadership).....i have gotten to know some more politicians....i think gilani would make a good pm also.....

......i have always though an mqm without its current leadership, which breaks out of its ethnic roots and spreads out into pakistan, as a middle class party would be a good phenomenon.....though the chances of it spreading out are reducing.......maybe if imran khan's court case against altaf hussein is successful......

....to simplify....

1. i support musharraf if other options are bb, ns
2. i support imran khan if all options are available
3. if other options than bb, ns, become available, from other parties (as is now becoming the case), then i would support them, and would think it is time for musharraf to pack up.......

in addition, i have always stated that lawyers and media are two groups, which have a chance to oppose the govt....i supported ns's ouster through the supreme court, rather than through the army.......

in general, all surveys indicate that pakistanis' first priorities are economic growth/jobs and security.....and i would support anyone who increases the chance of the above happening.....

hopefully that makes it clear......if not, do contact me and i can provide further details...i can explain to you, via email, also.......

masadi# "With a maturity of a 5 year old retard"

why do you need to resort to abuse to attempt to make a point......i have never figured this out about people.....why can't they stay calm and make a point....people starting abusing, when they have lost an argument and have no other option left.....people who can make an argument, do not need to rely on abuse....

i have given you three pieces of articles published on this site, which i authored to present a point, which covered opposition to us invasion of afghanistan and iraq......there are hundreds of replies, by me, on this subject......there are hundreds of arguments i had with people on this site, on that.....

in fact, you are the first one who has stated that i supported these wars.....i find it odd....either you are wrong or the tens of other people are wrong......

pls read the folowing and let me know what they mean to you:

"To me, this war will be no different than Osama Bin Laden’s terrorist attacks. Killing innocent human beings ruthlessly or subtly is one and the same thing."

"So, if your hands are tied and you are down on your knees
It seems as though troubles will never cease; Remember
"They can bomb the world to pieces
But they can't bomb it into peace"

"This reduces the whole world to the law of the jungle, and the survival of the militarily fittest"

now what do these direct comments mean to you....pls explain (hopefully without abusive text; though you are welcome to abuse, if you cannot control it)....

masadi #: "Absolutely not, implicit in your recommendation article, that the US "should" have done such and so is the assumption that it was an "option"- what I have written and how you have turned face is 100% true poetry or not,"

you are an amazing guy......i have printed two articles and a piece of poetry authored by me, against us actions....and you are still not admitting your mistake.....truly amazing....

the fact that i left the usa, never to return, should be enough of an indication......

you have come up with some strange implication and have attempted to state that it is, "implicit."......basically what i have written explicitly is not what you want to look at.......you want to attach, on your own, implicit idea to me......

this is truly a strange site.....i spent years arguing with hamidm2 on why the us invastions were wrong.....and now masadi is completely sure i supported it.....

all my articles on this site are on books, poetry, culture etc.....the only ones i have written on politics, explicitly (not implicit in any manner) but explicitly against usa invasions.....

you need to learn to admit your mistakes......specially when facts are expressed openly to you........following is somethign else i wrote in my article regarding a us invastion (this time in iraq) - once again explicitly, i.e. the text is staring you in your face:

"I wholeheartedly oppose this brewing war. I feel the USA will unnecessarily invade a country. It will kill innocent people and create chaos in the region, not to help the local people, but for its own interests. I oppose this war, to the extent of considering it a crime against humanity – a self-serving attack by an aggressive nation against an innocent nation which has never attacked it. To me, this war will be no different than Osama Bin Laden’s terrorist attacks. Killing innocent human beings ruthlessly or subtly is one and the same thing. "

let's stick to explicits and not your implicit imagination.......now do tell me where i supported the us wars....

Kaal,

Hmmm, I think the cricketer it is for Romair sahib.

Regards

# 131

..."has graduated from his Field Marshall aka Captain Clueless days"

for information only, majumdar, what is the latest status? After Musharraf the Great, there was a that all rounder cricketer phase - aurangzeb khan or vilaayat khan, or whatever his name is, leading a party called Intihayee-Saaf. Is he still the knight in shining armor?