Remembering the Presidential Election of 1965

hamidm2

all hail the great manto! Let us now take him to the sacrificial fire and roast his self righteous ass :)
with much respect,
thinking storm

re: HP #19

{{What is happening in the Tribal areas is beyond any political and diplomatic maneuvering.}}

Not exactly. Two mistakes were made by the army:

1- Sending a convoy of 15 vehicles without air cover.
2- Failure to maintain radio contact with the convoy

But the situation can still be salvaged by keeping a cool head. The jirga has convinced Baitullah Mehsud to release 6 soldiers. But Baitullah Mehsud knows he is negotiating from a position of strength (thanks to the carelessness of Pakistani troops). His terms should be met to secure the release of 240 soldiers.

Once the soldiers are safe, Baitullah Mehsud has no leverage over the govt. He can then be assassinated in a targeted strike (or the govt can squeeze him in other ways).

We must remember that the enemy is just a few hundred Pakistani Taliban, not every Waziristani or Mehsud tribesman. (The commanding officer who sent 240 troops without air cover was no friend either).

About two years ago, every Pakistani dictator's favorite attorney general Badmaashudin Haramazada claimed through the newspapers that FJ was murdered by one of her servants. He himself had witnessed the beheaded corpse of FJ. Later at the orders of the military dicatator Ayub Khan all investigation into this matter or any news was absolutely suppressed fearing that it might be construed as an assassination of a political opponent by the dictator.

If and when a true people's representative governement is establsihed in Pakistan, it should:

1. Exhume FJ's body and find out the truth.

2. Try Haramzada in court for obstruction of justice, tempering with evidence, and witholding testimony.

3. Similarly, all those responsible for crimes described in #2 should be brought to justice.

A side note to this article; Bhashanis role in FJ's election was very unfortunate. He effectively blocked the first opposition candidate; ex general azam khan. He also never denied being bought off to sabotage FJ's election campaign. He used ideological terms (the sino tilt by ZAB) to cover it but it was more crass opportunism.

p.s: Manto this Bhutto bashing by you is quite a surprise, what triggered the change in your opinion?

Re: # 1 Hope YLH should direct readers towards 1965 election if not to present days. History is tricky and heros and villians lies in eyes of beholder. I feel its all same liquior in new bottle. Whatever subject Manto touches turns finally to Mr. Gandhi, and QAMA its like original sin like Adam and Eves. There is cure to Jinnahaholics and Gandhi phobic mental disease. Like good wine if its so important should be preserved and rarely poured, opening wine bottle again and again spoils it they say ( I abhor alcohol and pig meat type stuff). I think moderator should do thier work, all this going as mental hospital.
I will leave mad men fighting and get ready to sleep

OK - YLH, the village idiot, is back with his clown-show... :) it's deja vu all over again....

manto bhai, you sure do know how to degrade yourself....I mean MASADI and you? are you sure about the comparision!

Re: # 85

masadi,

you are delusional ..."I think better than him, write better than him, argue better than him " ........ as borat would say: "NOT !" ......... you are a pygmy compared to the great manto

Manto writes "Not since 2000-2001... and before that I was a lot like Masadi. There was a time when I thought Bhutto was a greater leader than Jinnah, Gandhi and Ataturk rolled into one. So you could say Masadi represents the mental maturity that I had at 20."

What a bunch of BS, I think better than him, write better than him, argue better than him and have dismantled the Church of MAJ and he tries to pass over all that by claiming "maturity"? What maturity, the maturity to threaten your opponents by getting them fired? Maturity of claiming to have read books when you cannot think worth a fart? Maturity of the kind that you keep repeating the BS without addressing even ONE argument of your opponent when he goes out of his way to present contrary arguments to your claims? You are full of sh** Manto and the most immature interactor I have seen here, one whose mental level is stuck at "my papa is stronger than your papa"

Manto mian,

To add to the list, ZA Bhoot, Gen Mush, Zia ul Haq.

Regards

Yes... and the two people who were not diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome were Adolf Hitler and Mahatma Gandhi.

Dont know about Gordon Brown & MAJ but the others were creative people..made a positive change in peoples lives:)

PS: Apparently Gordon Brown too...

I'll have to read this... but Mozart, Einstein, Beethoven, Newton, Michelangelo, Bill Gates, Ramanujan, Orwell, Bertrand Russel, Socrates, John Nash etc have all been diagnosed with a variant of autism including Aspergers Syndrome.

Did Jinnah have Asperger's syndrome?
By :Dr M Arshad
Prof M Fitzgerald

This is a must read for fans & foes of MAJ and explains his abberations,disturbing behavior and mental condition......Also elucidates the history of Pakistan

harish mian,

Dr. Ambedkar, a leader of the untouchables, would be a better judge of Gandhi's attitude towards caste than Gandhi's hagiographers I would say. And they were not some objections but substantial ones.

Btw enlighten me... what does Abdul Ghaffar Khan's sectarian affiliation have to do with his opposition to Jinnah? So you think "Staunch sunni Muslim" Ghaffar Khan's political disagreement with Jinnah was because Jinnah was Ismaili? Interesting...

I didn't say you've abused me today but if your track record is any thing to go by, everytime you make a fool of yourself - which is often- you resort to vilest abuse which leads to your eventual banning. I am just saying lets skip that routine.

I continue to be a fan of Stanley Wolpert's writings especially his remarkable biography of Mahomed Ali Jinnah ... I especially agree with his conclusion that Jinnah was an incredibly honest and incorruptible leader who was legally and constitutionally right ... pointing out a few factual inaccuracies like the fact that Kanji Dwarkadas was not parsi ...is not what you make it out to be or that in his book on Bhutto he misquoted two speeches of Jinnah that he corrected in the next edition. You seem to have a very narrow view in black and white terms. Just because I point out a factual inaccuracy doesn't mean the other person has become worthless.

To my knowledge you've never produced a single "damning" quote from Wolpert...