Inside Story of Nawaz's Cooked Up Return to Pakistan

khurram#25:

Here is my take. Right is what my conscience tells me. For instance, my conscience tells me that discriminating people on the basis of one's birth is wrong. Now, if you go by the Hindu religion, it is right to discriminate on the basis of caste and if you are Muslim, it is right to discriminate on the basis of one's faith.

khurram: how do we figure out what's right.

Treat others the way you would like to be treated.

(and do as I say, not as I do).

teshah:

"Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."

That's nice. But how do we figure out what's right.

sam67, others:

What matters is what does it mean going further. For all practical purposes, Nawaz Sharif is now out of the picture, literally, in the showdown taking place in Pakistan. The question is, who gains? Can Shahbaz take the place of Nawaz? If he tries to, will he be arrested or deported? Can BB somehow control the damage that she has done to herself by getting too close to Musharraf? Can the Americans help her by encouraging her to make some anti-american statements? Who will reap the crop that Nawaz was hoping to harvest? MMA or King's Party or someone else?

teshah:

"Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."

These words are worth a "mukarrar"!

ramchandar#19:

Thanks for that info.

The only good thing to come out of this is that Pakistanis have seen the true face of their Saudi "friends".

I read this article, and found it to be a piece of rubbish. The "inside story" being that that Nawaz Sharif had agreed to a "face-saving" cooked up return for a few hours of sitting in the airport, and we have to take the writer's word for it!!

Mr. Minhaas,

Kindly accept my apologies. If you are saying that it is based on actual feedback received from people who ought to know I will accept it. But it reveals a very sad story about Pak state of affairs. Not only is it ruled by a dictator but its fate is being continually determined by foreigners who have no stake in the country's well-being. Instead of the feared dictatorship of the Hanud which may or may not have happened, it has been replaced by actual Army/Gora/Saudi rule.

Regards

ref#6
Dear DostMittar,

I don't know whether you know little story about 'andhay ko andharay mein bahut door ki soojhi.'

Sauda one of the great son of Delhi, had this blind teacher. One day when he visited him, Sauda found his teacher bit absent minded. Sauda asked his teacher 'Peero murshid what is bothering you.' His teacher said 'Sauda I have just composed this first line of the couplet but am struggling to complete the whole sher.'

Sauda said 'Huzoor can I help.'

At that point his blind teacher recited the first line.
'Fabti tei zulf pe shab-e-de-joor ki soojhi.'.
Sauda jumped and said 'Peero murshid I have completed the sher and he recited the second line "Andhay ko andheray me badi door ki soojhi."'

#15 Posted by sam67

..the facts and as stated by highly placed sources within diplomatic community and bureaucracy..

Sure I would expect that. This is the official line which the GOP is going to tow in their defense. But the reports of the actual eyewitnesses at the airport and inside the aircraft do not add up to this theory.

Further, you should not call these 'facts'. These are 'hearsay' at best :)

Re: # 11
thanks for the advice but if you can pls read my reply posted at #13, you might form a different opinion. as a writer i am not supposed to take sides or add something from myself, its the discussions and debates with those involved that we come to know about the complex nature of any operation in power corridors and then you may agree or not, thats what i have put forward on chowk. regards

Come on, Chowdhari, show the khaki clad scoundrel his place

Re: # 13
as i have said earlier that this write up has nothing in it but facts though they seem sometimes to some people as skecthy or imaginary but power corridors have nothing in them but theories, counter theories and then again counter theories. Thanks for acknowledging that Hariri and Saudis were prompted by US but you have to keep in mind that Nawaz Sharif was once given a lease of life by the same courts in 1993 when Ghulam Ishaq Khan sent him rolling on corruption charges and that was a landmark decision by the then judiciary but then everyone knows what followed Nawaz and Ishaq had to present their resignations to the army chief. this is just one example of how good our politicians are at making political decisions. but anyway this piece has nothing in it but the facts and as stated by highly placed sources within diplomatic community and bureaucracy who have been involved in this whole process one way or the other. rest is up to you and as i said earlier this is the best thing about chowk where we bring our stuff for discussion and its not necessary to agree but yes we can learn how to disagree for the sake of some agreement. regards

Re: # 10
As for the write up its not just a jest. its the harsh reality which as a writer I am supposed to do. yes i honour the views of others but thats not my concern because my job is to write whatever i could confirm and could gather from my sources and contacts.you ahev every right to make your own opinion and basically thats the best thing about chowk that we bring things here to discuss and carry on debates which can ultimately lead to our education and education of others. best of luck.

The author's theory is full of holes. The only credible part is the prompting of Hariri and the Saudis by US to the extent of pursuading NS not to return and let the BB/musharraf deal go through, but other than that, the author appears of the camp about whom I had written on UP ... i.e. those who see a 'drama' in everything.

Lord Nazir has testified through an affidavit in SC that NS was manhandled by commandos in trying to get him to board. The fact that NS had refused to hand over his passport for stamping for entry has been acknowledged by the Minister of State for Interior in a press conference, which makes it criminal abduction rather than re-exile AFTER he entered the country, plus of-course contempt of SC. Further, investigative reports by Ansar Abbasi of Jang newspaper have stated today that NS was shown arrest warrants which he accepted, and put on board a regular PIA flight bound for Karachi via Quetta, thus conveying the impression he was being taken to Landhi jail. However the call sign of the flight was changed midway from domestic to international and the plane went to Jeddah instead.

All of the above point to a deceitful plan hatched by musharraf, after all else had failed, to re-deport NS at all costs and risking serious judicial confrontation, rather than a facade designed to placate party workers and save NS face hatched by US.

Latest new from Jang, another 13 troops surrender.

BANNU: Two policemen were injured in an attack on their post near here, while following the attack, 13 FC men were found missing, whose being kidnapped was feared.

Sources told that some unknown persons attacking a police post at Baran Bridge on Mir Ali Road here opened barrage of fires with rockets and automatic weapons, wounding two police and FC men. Besides the 13 FC men, who were also stationed at this post, were later found missing along with their weapons. Sources told that fears of these security men kidnapped being expressed.