The Power of Ideas and the Modern University

tahmed,

You should like my creativity in adapting a well known poem to suit the pak reality.

That could as well could have been the jinnah version of teh tagore poem, sorry he did not write anything, only ex-tempo speeches, and the entire ilks of YLH are hanging by two lines of that speech.

Time to accept reality, say aloud what pakistan is and hold your head in shame. No other option for pakistanis, poor ones, they cannot even come to their own country.

What Masadi saying is totally right. Just cramming and memorizing does not do good. As he suggested thinking snd analysing is more important than just copying old stuff and assuimg right as it is written Holi Roman script. Arjun and Manto just copy and paste 80% stuff and feel if you copy and paste some thing is proven, its nothing proven. A donkey can eat all books it no use.
Masadi's emphesis on thinking is more important than tradition study or book keeping and memorising , I completely support thinking learning then chaeting and copying in exams.

What Masadi saying is totally right. Just cramming and memorizing does not do good. As he suggested thinking snd analysing is more important than just copying old stuff and assuimg right as it is written Holi Roman script. Arjun and Manto just copy and paste 80% stuff and feel if you copy and paste some thing is proven, its nothing proven. A donkey can eat all books it no use.
Masadi's emphesis on thinking is more important than tradition study or book keeping and memorising , I completely support thinking learning then chaeting and copying in exams.

Why cant our potato-head mard-e-momin, our royal daughter of the east, and above all our unelected, overclever "president" say this?

Prime Minister of Japan to Step Down
...Mr. Abe acknowledged that he had lost the public’s trust and said that he hoped a new leader would be better able to carry out his policies..

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/12/world/asia/12cnd-japan.html?_r=1 &hp&oref=slogin

#23 Mantolives: We are all broken records here on chowk. :-)

PS: And coming as it is from someone like me who is a great broken record in my own right... it says a lot about the great self styled "Zulfikar Ali Bhutto", "Noam Chomsky" and "Howard Zinn" of Pakistan.

Tahmed,

It is a repetition of the same old garbage which doesn't stand the test of history... but Masadi keeps repeating it like a broken record.

#16 masadi: what is this mumbo-jumbo??

#18 chaltahai to masadi: While you stew in your derision of the US elite, the rest of the world is copying its ways and moving ahead.

Words of wisdom. But alas, while a word is enough for the wise - with fools, the gods themselves struggle in vain.

laddu: dont embarass me by writing a nice response to a post that was meant to be nasty. :-(

Masadi writes: "my bathroom cleaning days were left behind in the USA"

Yaar cleaning bathrooms of US elite has certainly made you into a sourpuss. Tell ya what..come over..you can clean my bathroom.

I have read your articles and I find them amateurish and replete with questions rather than answers. While you stew in your derision of the US elite, the rest of the world is copying its ways and moving ahead.

Gill writes "Some Pakistani scientists (including Prof. Hoodbhoy) should take the initiative to write articles highlighting the contributions of the contemporary scientists. "

He does write articles, two dozen at a time like you do but just like your pieces of nonsense that are tape recorderesque, parrot, rote-thinking, summarizing books type, of articles, these don't have any original thought or workable solutions. Now atleast he has "better" things to do, i.e. sitting at his desk and misinforming students about Islam and science, than you do, so why don't you shut-up and let him do his nonsense as you do yours on here...

tahmed writes "pandit hates"

Direct result of the MAJ's actions on behalf of the feudals and the colonials to scapegoat the Muslims of India. Not only breaking them up politically and thus making them weak but producing just such a multitude of "pundit hates"- while producing multitudes of wealth and power for themselves. The idea of Pakistan in its essence was anti-Muslim, just like the Mullah's attempts to use Islam for political gain or terrorism is anti-Islam...The Church of MAJ is dead in Pakistan, and as such the days of "Pundit Hates" are few, the Muslim Political Power that MAJ fragmented and made weak will emerge with much greater than the whole with an alliance of the "Third World" against YOUR colonial masters, then people using theological seperation, ethnicity and other such distractions will be wiped off like dirt by the people.....

Chaltahai writes "right after he wakes up cleaning the bathroom at the gov't college"

No a-hole, my bathroom cleaning days were left behind in the USA, here I am King of the department but not at GC who are third rate paymasters where the elite divide up the HEC funds among their group and pay new comers very little, well below the pay scale I demand;

By the way nothing wrong in cleaning bathrooms but you don't need a graduate degree in sociology from the US to do that in Pakistan, there are many other options.

Okhla writes "Do you know that a certain bearded bloke who lurks on Chowk has already finalised the blue print for the higher education system in Pakistan?"

Look a-hole be man enough to confront ideas and not rely on made up BS. I am not "bearded", and as far as looks go, I look more like your Western "gods" than the MAJ did, but that by itself is no qualification for enlightenment, and as far as using the methodology of science in my work goes, I beat any of you so called "modern" folk on here whose best work is "Fun at fishing"- that is all this miserable fcuk has managed to produce in his ilog, now visit my ilog and read some of my articles at http://articles.asadi.org and you will see where enlightenment is to be found....All this fool can manage is conjuring up false images of "bearded fanatics" to discredit ideas based on BS. Like it or not my recommendations were persuasive enough to make it through to an institute whose head is a pro-West Western educated highly qualified person and he was moved by them so much that he forwarded them to a federal minister for distribution country-wide, when this fanatic PH, who writes BS with veiled attacks on Islam, is able to manage that even with his long list of credentials and sources- don't forget that my history of teaching here is short and his is long- then we can talk....until then, Okhla shut up...

tahmed bhai,

we love Pakistanis -- we just hate the idea of Pakistan