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Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom

Asif Naqshbandi September 12, 2007

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#175 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:16:38 am
Re: # 173 which city ??
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#174 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:16:12 am
Allah will ask from us on the day of judgement that how you offer prayer , namaz , roza , offer zakat , did hajj , helped poor , how you spent your youth , your old age , how you strive to spread islam ,how you fight against kufars , did you jihad against them , "huqooq -ul - ibad " the most
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He will not ask us that , tell me whether you consider My two hands literally or actually... and if you give wrong answer , you will go to hell......
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#173 Posted by majumdar on September 15, 2007 12:15:25 am
Dawa behen,

Jee, main India mein rehta hoon.

Regards
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#172 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:15:11 am
do not know about canada , but as far pakistan is concerned , there are a lot of salafi/wahabi which make a fun of sufis , sufism and imam abu haneefah, regarding sufis as innovators , sufism as nothing but a foolish practice and regardig abu haneefah that there are so large number of mistakes in his fiqah that you cannot follow him or other 3 schools of thoughts.So i give the 3 whole post from islam-qa , the pure wahabi/salafi and whose voice is considered as authority in saudi arabia and the whole islamic world that things are not so as they seems to be.I know its a bit tedious and difficult to go all through it but if i just gave the reference of site , hardly anyone actually wants to visit that sit and clear the misconceptions so its look better to me to copy and paste the whole 3 posts so thst readers conveniently on seeing the question , see the answers also , right below.

** also i want to tell salfis/ wahabis brothers and sisters is that we all as muslims consider the prayer the greatest pillar of islam but all that is not islam............. " rafay yadain , aameen bijahar and putting hands on chest "
and quarreliing upon these , wasting our energies and making foes instead of friends , that we do in whole of our life but keep our eyes close on our social , econimical , sociollogical issues and aspects of islam at all.Our islamic studies teacher , once teaching ous,told:

"""""""""""& amp; quot;""""""""""""&am p;qu ot;""""""""""""" ; ;"""""""""""" """""""""""""&a mp;q uot;""""""""""""& ;quo t;"""""""""" , you think islam starts when muslims enters mosque but believe me , its starts when they leave the mosque""""""""""""&a mp;q uot;""""""""


and this is what , i also believe....................
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#171 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:13:24 am
am against only these differenes which we consider that " yaar pata nahin kitnay baray maslay masail hain " but if you anaylyze , in most cases , its like a situation like """ khoda pahar nikla chua"""" ......................... of no worth consideration .Its like you have to pass a matric or FSc. exams and instead of you go through the 10 or 11 chapters of the whole course , you start a topic of the least important chapter , having .00001% chance to come in the exams., and devote your whole time to it till say of exams come................ thats i personally think ..............
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#170 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:12:47 am
i am not faqeeh means nor i read fuqah nor i am a scolar but the points raised are not so great only interpretation is different for example said that Ahle hadees recite Surah fatiha other not but here again come the same thing .According to hanafi and other school of thought , they take the ayat of quran( when quran is being recited , you should listen quitely) i do not rmember the ezxct but its like that.But ahle hadees take the hadees of Bukhari shareef ( there is no prayer in which Fatiha is not recited).So you see the only difference is the way we look upthe matter .Both of them have correct intention , both of them have good sound knowledge but their own "Ijtihad" not going away from sunnah and Quran. So the dispute dissolved automatically.Just take it as a man looking a sunlight from prism and by slightly changing the position , one see red , yellow , green blue violet and so on.So these colours are different but ultimately all they have the same root , the White colour.So my brother all is that .................................................. .................................................. ........................................... but we make a himalyaya of it !!!!!!!!!!!!
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#169 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:12:31 am
Just look at this incident................

it is narrated that" when holy prophet(peace be upon him) ordered muslims to go to Khyber in 7 hijri , he told the sahaba not to put out their arms until reached Khyber so during thier way to Khyber time of Asr prayer came and some sahaba offered Asr prayer their while other group of sahaba said that prophet(peace be upon him) said not to put off arms until reach Khyber so they performed their ar prayer on reaching kyber.Now both groups came to prophet(peace be upon him) and asked which is wright or which group is wrong.The prophet(peace be upon him) answered that"Both are correct" as one intention is to offer prayer as commanment of Allah and other preffered my order but the intentions of both groups is correct ,only interpretaton of my saying looks different to both so both are correct
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#168 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:10:39 am
Zina has exceeded to huge toll.Even in house there is zina of ears(music) , zina of eyes( wtching cable) , zina of hands( channel surfing and masturbation) , zina of feet ( to go to the places of crowded opposite gender), zina of heart ( the lustful thoughts) and the only thing remains whether you do it practically or not as in hadees.

But nobody take action against that .But ifsome one says i do prayer without ""rafa yadain""", uffffffffffffff.............. there come an earthquake ....................... "will you do not rafa yadain ", repeat all your prayers , all of your previous prayers are wrong............................................. .................................................. ..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#167 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:10:21 am
there are thousands of car leased from banks on the road as it is in quran that interest is like a war between alllah and his prophet(pbuh) and a pwerson who take or give interest.But no body cares . Our whole banking System based on interset, not even a single voice against that..............

***hadees says" ((((((when there is zina and sood(interest) in a society , then its means that this society has invited the "azab" of Allah )))
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#166 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:10:10 am
there are thousands of car leased from banks on the road as it is in quran that interest is like a war between alllah and his prophet(pbuh) and a pwerson who take or give interest.But no body cares . Our whole banking System based on interset, not even a single voice against that..............

***hadees says" ((((((when there is zina and sood(interest) in a society , then its means that this society has invited the "azab" of Allah )))
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#165 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:09:54 am
Remember the hadees of prophet(peace be upon him) that is ( the dispute between my ummah is also rahmat ) ...... but we make it a zahmat by our own attitudes and behaviours.

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#164 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:09:23 am
agree but i have a little complaint againt salafis/wahabis that if they also listen to other views and points and not say that only we are right and everything else has deviated then , i think situation will become more pleasent , this is my personal opinion.I do not knoow what others think about that.
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#163 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:08:59 am
in ghazva khundaq when in a crucial time , prophet(pbuh)wanted to sign aggrement with jews not to betray and in reward signed a truce to give some fruits farms of medina , sahabas like leaders of two ansari tribes hazrat ssad bin muaz and hazrat saad bin ubada (ra) asked prophet(pbuh) that is it from Allah and h replied not but my will the those two sahaba said ishallah Allah is with ous and we will be victorious so prophet asked the truce writer to give the truce to prophet (pbuh_ and saad bin muaz(ra) himself with his hands tore the the truce into pieces.
now see that the difference and even wityh a prophet(pbuh) but no one said anything and could say anything because it is approval of the prophet(peace be upon him)
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#162 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:08:44 am
can anybody tell me where is that "utopia" in which there is no differences ...........

**there is even differences between sahaba and the prophet(peace be upon him) on day of battle uhad , when prophet(PBUH) and seniour sahaba wanted to fight inside medina to use houses of medina as little forts but young youth with zeal and zest , disagreed and prophet(peace be upon him) accepted their view and went out in battle field.Now being after defeat and 70 sahaba shaheed , prophet(pbuh) never even said a single word aganist them.

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#161 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:08:30 am
can anybody tell me where is that "utopia" in which there is no differences ...........

**there is even differences between sahaba and the prophet(peace be upon him) on day of battle uhad , when prophet(PBUH) and seniour sahaba wanted to fight inside medina to use houses of medina as little forts but young youth with zeal and zest , disagreed and prophet(peace be upon him) accepted their view and went out in battle field.Now being after defeat and 70 sahaba shaheed , prophet(pbuh) never even said a single word aganist them.

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#160 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:08:11 am
there is big difference of opinion between all 4 schools of thought , but you will be surprised to know that imam shafi remained for 6 months in home of imam Shafi as his guset, in the same house, to learn hadees or i think even more time he spent there.
Similarly when somebody asked imam malik about imam abu haneefah , he said a historical line that " the power of his "istadlal" is so much that he can proove that the wooden made" mimbar of masjid_e_nabwi" is made of gold." What a great honour from one imam to the other , but we, as their followers, spent our whole life that in a particular matter whether imam shafi is more wright or imam abu haneefah and keep on quarreling and then atlast come the stage of (((((((( kharig_ul_diara_i_islam_)))))) or even more to " munafiq" "kafir" and ""wajibul qatal".
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