Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom

Re: # 202
good comment

Re: # 205
Good comment

thankyou asif sahab....

i will mail you..

found this good article ...

http://www.jamatuddawa.org/marsad/jul07/mujjul07/sufiizam.htm

great series of posts dawa sahiba but please say what you want in fewer and longer posts.

i agree with almost everything you've written and about the need for tolerance in the ummah for other points of view but sadly the extremists will not budge. you can quote another 50 of the great scholars but for some we will always be ahl al bida' and 'grave-worshippers' astaghfirullah.

Ya Ghawth al Azam!

p.s. please email me. asifjuk@gmail.com
jazak allahu khayran

Zeemax,

My understanding is that all stingers have been bought back by the yanks for a million dollars a piece.

Kaalchakra, tahmed etc.

The profound topic of sufism, the japanese equivalent of zen budhism, has been degenrated into teh profane, with the talk of the flight of the deboned chicken and napalese aircraft.

The fact is that if a sufi wants a chicken, deboned or otherwise to fly, he can do it. The question is having realised the ultimate truth, will he be interested in the plight or the flight of a chicken, what could be its relevance to the larger issues. It is unlikely that any sufi will do anything as a challenge.

This whole issue of doing what is deemed magical and its link to enlightenment is probably the work of the religious fraudsters and organised religions, like catholisism which needs miracles befor some one is made a saint.

In the budhist and hindu traditions, what the society thinks of is utmost irrelevance to a sage, and it is unlikely that any sufi or a sage will do anything to prove a point to teh society, for what, to earn money, to get recognition!!!!

Now here is a sufi thought for any one. It has been scientifically shown that at the molecular level, 99percent of the human body is not more than 7 years old, that human body is in state of flux of material that earlier belonged to plants animals and inanimates.

In thsi world view, all things remain in that particular for for some time and transforms into something else. That is as long as say for a human, the life force is there, the material flow manifests as human, and vanishes when the "soul" leaves, and may reincarnates as something else.

which they follow...mere words of Bukhari...and neglecting the ASOOL on which 4 greatest fuqhas developed the whole system of Fiqah.....

just reading from Bukhari and quran...and giving fatwa is just kidding......

the 4 imams and thier thousands of students and scholars throughout 1200 yeras cannot be on wrong path...never ever.....

they think...only they are right rest are deviated and "taqleed" is haram...while they themselves do taqleed of ahmed bin hanbal....ibne tamiyya and Albani...etc....

they are not "ONLY" scholars.....the greater work in whole islamic history is done by non-arabs...not these arabs.... and they have no right to "Impose" their version of islam on 85 % majority who love and respect and follow 4 imams....

neither i will blindly follow the Ibne Tamiyya...and Ibne Jauzzia.......



neither i will say that Abu Hanifa is not Imam Azam...Imam Azam was prophet(pbuh)....just a funny point......is there any comparison between a nabi and a ummati !!!!!!


neithet i will say to any person that since you do not do Rafa Yadain and Ameen Biljahar..... so you whole Namaz is wasted ..and also previous all namazs....


neither i will call a woman who do not take the Niqaab of face that she is not observing purda......


neither i will blindly follow the fatawas of Ibne Baaz...although we all respect them..but not blindly......



neither i will issue the kufr fawas on Ashraf Ali Thanvi...Ahmed Raza Khan Brelvi ...and Maulana Maudoodi......(have arbs in 200 years produced such great scholars)


neither i will rank my prophet(pbuh) just as my "Elder Brother".......


neither i will support the "extremist jihadi " version of islam...which by large is bringing destruction is Iraq...and Pakistan also.....



neither i will say to any sect and school of thought that only "Ahle Hadees" are 1 sect ...rest all are 72 sects ..which will go to hell by hadees.....


etc etc .....

neither i will accept that hadees which is considered as true by "ONLY" Albani.......all great muhadiseen are not psycho !!!!

neither ...i have a habbit of calling people deviated...by just difference of opinion.....


neither ...i will ridicule the great sufia of islam...through which the isl;am spreaded in most of the parts......

But i will not stand with those who have a "conservative" and "hard core"

attitude towards 4 greatest faqeehs of 1400 yeras...and thousands of great scholars accepted thier knowledge...greatness...and wisdom..they are not mad..fool...and ignorant.....who has the courage to challenge thier intellect !!!!!

for example...you can oppose the scholar like Syed Maudoodi in 1 issue..10 issues...100 issues......but if someone says he is deviated person ....i think he is the most foolish and deviated himself.......can you challenge his rest of wisdom..intellect and his whole life deeds for islam...how shameful is that on 1 or 2 point difference....one should negate his whole life hard work....

similarly ......in case of 4 greatest faqeeh...you can oppose them in various issues...but if someone says that they are wrong...then he should have his mental check up !!!!!!!

beleive me..i am not saying you or anyother ahle hadees....but just pointing out that this attitude....according to my little knowledge,...against the great fuqhas...and sufis...and prophet(pbuh) is not suitable....

and that anothger reason....saudia ulemas ,most of the time do "Taqleed" of Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal...or Ibne Jauziyya or Ibne Tammiyya....!!!!!

greatest 4 faqeehs of all times...salif salihoon are not mad...foolish and ignorant....they were best people as they were near the age of prophet(pobuh) as in hadees.....

neither all sufis are deviated as usually quoted by ahl;e hadees scholars....our whole Pakistan and india religion will be in hindus part if there were not these sufis !!!!!!!!

Just fighting the whole life that who do Rafa Yadain and who donot...who say Ameen Biljafhar and who do not........just bring hatred in the society.....

Its not necessary that what Albani considered any hadees false..its actually false...its blind following of l;bani...whyn not people do this research to find which Asnaad are more true and other way round....

yes Bukhari is great book...but everything is not Bukhari...everything is not Bukahari...everything is not Bukhari.....


there are also other books which are of ahadees....Imam Bukhari was also human and definitely there are mistakes in Bukhari..its not quran.....so blindly follow it is also not acceptable.......