Ramadan Special: Tales of Sufi Wisdom

Dear living Wali Naqshbandi, may your status be exalted amongst chowkies, may Allah grow fragrant flowers where you tread.

The story #3, perhaps comes across a bit...how shall I put it....arrogant? I know that sometimes these stories are a bit much for us uninitiated, and unwashed, but could you please please elaborat that a little bit? I mean there has to be some sympathy for the poor boy? Some comfort for the woman?

It may be my purely ignorant understanding, but these stories are not supposed to be real, right? I mean, these are just...metaphorically speaking, right?

Thank you for considering these question, I remain your humble corpse in waiting.
with much respect,
thinking storm

In pakistan ramadan is is teh day to be remembered for teh slaughter of animals in the backyards and the public killing of camel with galleries set up for the people to watch.

Is there a sufi who said that before slaughtering ",,oh my dear animal, for my sustainence I have to kill you and one day the god that is same for both of us will take me to my killer..and eventually we are all same".

No it cannot be a muslim who can say that, man and animal same god, no not at all. But can be a good thought for the educated pakistanis so that teh backyard killings do not become a nursery step to jihadic killings.

no, these are not metaphors for me but haqiqat. :-)

the third story's moral is that to reach great heights in sainthood one has to go through a lot of suffering and kills ones ego, one's nafs, one's lower animal self. The Shaykh himself spent 25 years or so living in the wild so it was not arrogance. Killing the nafs is at the heart of sufism (and every other religion's spiritual path too).

jay #2 last week you were explaining in full seriousness how as an engineer he understands the need for the nepali hindus to sacrifice goats in hopes of appeasing the airline god. ram! ram!! goat! goat!!

tahmed,

In fact the hindu sacrifices are carried out with the verse in sanscrit that I wrote.

Killing is the law of nature, one cannot create anything without destroying something, that is why lord shiva is the creator and destroyer. The trick is doing the killing with detachment, go and read Gita, if that is not haram.

Sufi9sm is indian and here is a connection between Bangalore and pakistan.

from deccan herald of today

The road is named after Ali Asker, the grand father of Dewan Mirza Ismail, who imported horses from iran. Agha Ali Asker was a Persian nobleman who settled in Bangalore. He traded in horses and Persian carpets and supplied horses to the royal stable. He created the Ali Asker Waqf Estate. Two of his family members namely Agha Shahi and Agha Hilaly migrated to Pakistan and became Foreign Secretaries of the nation.
Sir Mirza's grandson, Akbar Mirza Khaleeli, was Indian ambassador to Iran, Italy and Australia. He has four daughters Zeebeundeh Khaleeli, Sabah Backhache, Rehane Yavar Dhala and Esmath Khaleeli.

This is
[declared in a Hadith-e-Quddsi, where Allah says to the Most Beloved ]Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala Alayhi wa Sallam), “Among the things
that bring My servant close to Me, the ones I love best, are the things
that I have made fard (compulsory). When My servant does nafil ibaadat (optional prayer), he gets very close to Me. So much so, that
I love him very much. When I love Him, I become his hearing ear,
seeing eye, holding hand, and walking foot. I give him whatever he
wishes. When he invokes Me for help, I protect him.” ]

In Bukhari Shareef, Hadrat Abu Huraira (Radi Allahu ta'ala Anhu) reports
the following Hadith-e-Quddsi:


The Most Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam) has said
that Allah said, “Whoever shows enmity to a friend of mine, I shall be at war
with him.”

urs..were never ordered by walis themselves...these are the followers who initiated that.....

*doing all farz ibadat ...then doing nafal ibabdat so much so that....above hadees criteria reached.....

some walis used to pray fajr prayer with Isha prayer wadhu..means whole night not sleeping....

*. Yes...those who do personality worship are "jahils"



*asking help from them instead of allah ....
*attribute some divive qualities to them...
*do rakooh and sajood on shrines and mazars
*and mostly now-a-days...the "Mujawar" of qabar and shrine eat haram from "Nazranai"..sadqa..khairat...this is totally haram....

but aulia never ordered this ...these are Jahil people who all do that....




majority of muslims..

*respect them...

* we are muslims because our fore-fatheres became muslims by them...



*we love them as they spread islam ..in this Indo_pak region of hinduism

we ask only from Allah...not any Wali...though Shah wali Ullah writes..after the death of few aulia...thier rooh..are used for Takveeni-Umoors.....its upon Allah...to give a person a specific thing...either by his ownself...through some other person..through some wali....but ultimately...Allah...will...that superseeds anything..and only Allah...gives...no-body else...



* Majority..if visit mazar..neither ..do rakooh and sajood...just in a sunnah way...recite fateha in a proper way...and ask Allah from anything...its upon now allah to give us...through any mean.....

* Just ..previously..in some thread ...i gave the example of sick person...that if i become ill...and go to doctor...and after the medicatie he give..i becomes perfectly right...its not mean that medicine gi\ve me health...neither its menas that doctor give me health...its Allah...who give me health...but doctor and medines were means ...which come into my good health recovery....

Similarly...everything...from health...to children...from money to success is given by Allah...however sometimes he directly give...sometimes somebody helps us..like friend...who give us money in difficult times...some times its doctor which help us...sometimes...very pious people are given help by Khizar(as) etc..sometimes the rooh of aulia helped him in difficult times.....but ULTIMATELY...not a leaf is broken from the tree without Allah will...just maens are different....

similarly...similarly....

aulia and wali ullah never said that ..worship us...urs on us..dhammal ...band baji...non-shariah like things..women visiting graves..a it is strictly forbidden...and ask help from them...These are Jahil who do all that....

In our sub continents…few sufis ..spread the whole message of islam fa better than hundreds of kings..og mughal..syed…ghulama …ghaznavis…abdalis…nadir shah…and other kings….the basic purpose of them was equlaity..and love with all people regardless of religion..cast and colour..thats why ..in this region…the budhism…jainism.etc cannot be seen today to that extent as islam…about15 crore in pakistan..20 crore in india..and 16 crore in Bangla Desh..and most of them are muslims ..as thier forefathers were made muslims by these sufias…We cannot pay back this debt …of these great aulias and sufias…