Athar Osama September 23, 2007
#1 Posted by viqarm on September 24, 2007 9:34:04 am
This is a purely technical analyis devoid of any serious attempt to understand the deeper malaise afflicting the Pakistani society. At best, it tells only half the story.
Almost all civilian administrations overthrown, whether by the military or the civilian Presidents of Pakistan, had become deeply unpopular to the point that not only did the citizenry not protest their overthrow; it actually celebrated the overthrow in each instance. Why was this so?
Wouldn't an equally legitimate question be to ask if the civilian autocracy in Pakistan has been a success or failure? I wouldn't be surprised if a compelling case could be made for terming civilian administrations in Pakistan a failure.
At this point we need to think outside the box and ask ourselves if the parliamentary democracy is the proper system of governance for Pakistan? There are other models of democratic governance available, notably the American and French, aside from the British parlaimentary model. Isn't it time we seriously asked ourselves if an alternate model will provide a better system of checks and balances so badly needed in Pakistani politics?
Aside from the lopsided influence of the military, the problem of feudalism and an elitist civil service are definite severe impediments in the face of which continued failures of political governance remains highly probable in Pakistan.
Just my 2 cents worth ...
Almost all civilian administrations overthrown, whether by the military or the civilian Presidents of Pakistan, had become deeply unpopular to the point that not only did the citizenry not protest their overthrow; it actually celebrated the overthrow in each instance. Why was this so?
Wouldn't an equally legitimate question be to ask if the civilian autocracy in Pakistan has been a success or failure? I wouldn't be surprised if a compelling case could be made for terming civilian administrations in Pakistan a failure.
At this point we need to think outside the box and ask ourselves if the parliamentary democracy is the proper system of governance for Pakistan? There are other models of democratic governance available, notably the American and French, aside from the British parlaimentary model. Isn't it time we seriously asked ourselves if an alternate model will provide a better system of checks and balances so badly needed in Pakistani politics?
Aside from the lopsided influence of the military, the problem of feudalism and an elitist civil service are definite severe impediments in the face of which continued failures of political governance remains highly probable in Pakistan.
Just my 2 cents worth ...
#2 Posted by kabuliwallah on September 24, 2007 9:34:25 am
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#3 Posted by jayp on September 25, 2007 3:10:55 am
The title has to be the rise and fall of every govt in pakistan. I recall the days of return of benzir, the rise to power of father bhutto, the rise to power of mushy...evry one of them have only added to the decline of pakistan.
Pakistan was not created through a mass movement, and that si why there were no leaders after Jinnah. there are no "freedom fighters" in pakistan, the ones who gave up everything for pakistan and that is the crux of the problem. The power hungry nature of one man coincided with the design of exiting colonial powers and that is why pakistan was created.
It aws created for islam and the pakistanis have to abandon the idea of any other form of govt in pakistan other than an islamic govt. Sharia is the law of pakistan, it is not being implemented universally and that is all the difference.
I recall that at least one person was beheaded publically in pakistan during zia time and one stoned to death. There has to be more of such events and that will answer the creation pakistan...as you hera teh distant thunder from the frontiers of pakistan...la ialah aillalla...pakistan ka matlab kys
Pakistan was not created through a mass movement, and that si why there were no leaders after Jinnah. there are no "freedom fighters" in pakistan, the ones who gave up everything for pakistan and that is the crux of the problem. The power hungry nature of one man coincided with the design of exiting colonial powers and that is why pakistan was created.
It aws created for islam and the pakistanis have to abandon the idea of any other form of govt in pakistan other than an islamic govt. Sharia is the law of pakistan, it is not being implemented universally and that is all the difference.
I recall that at least one person was beheaded publically in pakistan during zia time and one stoned to death. There has to be more of such events and that will answer the creation pakistan...as you hera teh distant thunder from the frontiers of pakistan...la ialah aillalla...pakistan ka matlab kys
#4 Posted by jayp on September 25, 2007 3:22:27 am
The final chapter of pakistan may not be far away. The pak troops are refusing to fight the taliban. The taliban are hunting and eliminating those involved in lal masjid attack which will ensure that madrassas can do what ever they want, here after.
The military has ordered that it is a uniform of shame, not to be worn public. It will be used only in the parade grounds. The trbals of afghan border, the pak troops will not fight, the indians again they will not fight, they will rather leave to teh tribals.
That leaves the uniform only for within cantonment use and for photo occacsions by the high ranking military men.
In a way, this is the natural progression, the jihadic army cannot have uniforms, at least of teh western nature which is an anacronism for the islamic republic.
It is sad to see 150 million people who once shared the same heritage till teh formulation of TNT is in such a hopeless state. It is teh hopelessness of the pakistanis that is so depressing.
The military has ordered that it is a uniform of shame, not to be worn public. It will be used only in the parade grounds. The trbals of afghan border, the pak troops will not fight, the indians again they will not fight, they will rather leave to teh tribals.
That leaves the uniform only for within cantonment use and for photo occacsions by the high ranking military men.
In a way, this is the natural progression, the jihadic army cannot have uniforms, at least of teh western nature which is an anacronism for the islamic republic.
It is sad to see 150 million people who once shared the same heritage till teh formulation of TNT is in such a hopeless state. It is teh hopelessness of the pakistanis that is so depressing.
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