Musharraf the Out-smarter

Re: # 214

arjun,

...... if you don't shut up, we might just drop an atum bum on kerala, or tamiland or whatever godforsaken place you come from ! ....... i would have suggested delhi or jullundar but that seems too much like fratricide ..... personally i wouldn't loose any sleep over killing a few million madrasis - regardless of what national geographic and the primate society might say, macacacide is okay in my book ......... so be careful !

........ you are beginning to bother me as much as masadi and bulleya and musharraf .... go get laid or something before you end up like these three

#195 Posted by zeemax on September 28, 2007 2:42:24 am


That would not provide India with any justification to retaliate with 'big bombs' because the other side using tactical nukes against enemy troops inside its own territory is not 'first use'.


That only works in an imaginary world where india can only play by the rules pakis set for them..

this is the same kind of self-delusion that made pakis think they could sneak up on the kargil heights without inviting retaliation..we all know how that went..pureland withdrew it's forces without any territory to show for the dead bodies it abandoned...

Tahmed sahib,

The word "kanjaroooooon" was not coined by me. I am only reflecting the opinion expressed by some Gandhians from ur side of the Radcliffe Line. And if it is of any satisfaction to u, I wud be the Injun/Hanud equivalent of a kanjarooooooooon.

(As for the "Yanks" - even Bush has been forced to fall in line and echo the CJ's call for free and fair elections.)

The proof of the pudding lies in the eating. Whatever he may say, he will continue to break bread with the dictator.

(the Indian government has done fas failed to show leadership in South Asia)

The GoI has only behaved sensibly. Let it use its limited energy in running India properly rather than make a fool of itself like in the good old NAM days. And India supporting anything in Pak is surely likely to discredit it in Pak itself.

Regards

tahmed,

....... it seems that we ae stuck with mr. musharraf as president for the next five years ..... and i seriously doubt if the bb will manage to muster enough seats to become prime minister, so we might be stuck with the personal banker as well ...... another five years of bickering and sloganeering with an occassional suicide bomb to break the monotony ....... yaaaawn ! ......

#197 Posted by zeemax on September 28, 2007 3:05:12 am


Pakistan Army' slogan is "Jihad Fi Sabil-Illah".


Adopting a particular slogan does nothing for you actually ability or intestinal fortitude..or the lack thereof..

ref: the slogan "kashmir banega pakistan"..

majumdar #209 The Chief Justice is not a "kanjaroon". The lawyers and journalists of Pakistan are not "kanjaroons". Those who sacrificed their lives in peaceful demonstrations on May 12 were not "kanjaroons". Rather, these are the true leaders of Pakistan - people who have inspired the rest of us with their bold stand against dictatorship.

And it is these brave Pakistanis who will fight on until Pakistan is freed from dictatorship. And it is these brave Pakistanis who will never allow a dictator - bearded or uniformed - to ever rob them of their rights again.

As for the "Yanks" - even Bush has been forced to fall in line and echo the CJ's call for free and fair elections. Which is more than the Indian government has done, which has failed yet again to take a historic opportunity to show leadership in South Asia (commensurate with its vast population and its own democracy) by ignoring the democracy movements to the east (Burma) and to the west (Pakistan) and continuing to do business with military dictators.

#210 by borivili_express

The hinuds mey yet remember him with fondness in the times to come

Yaar Borivili, the Hinuds trust no one, least of all Musharraf - the man who orchestrated the Kargil invasion. It is just that he's the one who wields the stick right now. Tomorrow, if BB or NS come to power, we will have to deal with them. As simple as that.

majumdar the kanjaroons are now quite weak, the crucial question now is how islamised is punjab, because of its weight in the pop and the army 60% i it shifts its weight to the right the mood of the nation wil change

there are conflicting report about the extent of islamization in the punjab

Actully musharaf might be right he may be the last hurdle for an islamist move. The hinuds mey yet remember him with fondness in the times to come

Borivilli,

There be no Islami jamhoriya or whatever in Pakistan. The kanjarooooooons will hang on there and the mujahidoooooooons will bang there heads for whatever they r worth but they wont come to power. The Yanks wont allow them to.

(if the hinuds think they will gain)

Looks like the mujahidooooons main enemies will be the kanjaroooons for a long, long period of time and we kafirooooooons wud be safe for some time.

Regards

the crucial question is which way will punjab swing, NWFP and baluch are on the righyt allready, sind and karachi are at the other side in national politics.

Punjab is the key, like it was for the Quaid in 1945

my guess is the first shift will come in two years from now, because by that time the honeymoon period for the new PM will be over

borivili #204 "no islamist will back away from using nuclear weapons "

in that case islamists need some basic education. e.g., within a few minutes of a nuclear war in south asia, the mullahs themselves would be on their way to the next world (where, btw, they may find themselves in less delightful company than that of hoors). the nuclear weapon is a weapon of last resort, and a weapon of deterrence, not one that you talk lightly of using the way hussain ahmed has done.

let me say the convntional islamists ar also cowardly, but if a true marde momin takes over (10%) than the fun will begin. most likely he will come in a second wave after the first change to an islamist gov. that is pakistan will move in two shifts towards the right

in a conventional fight the militants can never win over the pak fauj, but what might happen is that musharraff or which ever civiilian authority becomes prime minister will be forced t continue helping the US and cause a polarisation between the islamists and the rest

then the real test will occur, i.e. wether the islamists have enough support within the population or not if they do then either someone from within the military will hold a coup or the islamist politicioans in NWFP/Baluch areas will openly revolt

where this will stop only god knows ut if the hinuds think they will gain they might be in for a surprise becaus if an islamist wins or takes over the military India will face much more heat in kashmir for sure.

secondly if u want to belive a fantasist conspiracy theorist like masadi thats fine, but no islamist will back away from using nuclear weapons infact they seek them with all their strenth

Urstruly writes "Masadi

I do not have time to address to ad hominum rebuttals "you are mullah therefore you are wrong" ah pahleeze."

Very convenient, ignore the major arguments of your opponent and hide behind words you do not understand, because you have been totally and completely stumped. The "mullah" comment was to show how easy it becomes for you to distort Islam, it had nothing to do with my dismantling of your dimwitted arguments. On a side note since you are so proud of the Mullah's achievement in Afghanistan in the 1980s how come you consider the use of "Mullah" an Ad hominem against you- isn't that a major contradiction?

Regarding the collapse of the SU, it was no Afghan War induced collapse; it was the mere stripping away of a facade set up by the Americans as they pursued their cold war. It had nothing to do with the Afghan war. In that war, the Afghans losing around 2 million versus 50k of the SU, and then the mullah group going after each other in a most barbaric manner not to mention that before they would have amounted to nothing without the help of the Shaitan, the US elite, that was willing to use the last Afghan for its own perverse ends, does not reflect too well on the Mullah's fighting ability or the company he keeps, in other words they stink at war, just as they stink in terms of personal hygiene and morality.

James Maxwell writes "Re: # 149

For some reason the following quote comes to mind:

"Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his own level and beat you with experience". "

Another pathetic excuse, throw out a quote that applies more to you than to anything I wrote and evade answering all legitimate objections to your BS. You don't need to fear anyone dragging you down, you are already at the lowest levels possible of both intellect and morality. Now run along and play with your crayons.