A Sad Day for Pakistan

jay thakeray #90: You being a proven and constant liar on chowk, your "flood of emails" is as much bs as everything else you have written on chowk for the past 10 years.

And Pakistan will still be there, long after you have been reincarnated as a flea on the back of a cow in Pakistan as punishment for shameless lying.

A sad day for pak sports

Here is teh pak captain telling that muslims all over the world wanted pakistan to win.

from dawn of today


Twenty20 World Cup


I WAS one of the millions who watched the final of the recent Twenty20 World Cup Cricket in South Africa. The match was a cliffhanger where both the teams were equally matched. India was just lucky to have won the match which could have gone either way and no loser was disgraced.

I heard the TV interview with the rival skippers. The Pakistan captain, Shoaib Malik, “thanked the people of Pakistan and ‘Muslims all over the world’ for their support.�

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the same notion of brotherhood that makes the pakistanis bomb london trains also helps them to win cricket. Long live jinnahic TNT brotherhood.

#89 Posted by viqarm,

The SC will HAVE to rule on the 17th amendment, sooner or later. Remember, three justices including the head of the bench Rana Bhagwandas threw the entire amendment out even though it was not the plea. The question of two offices by the president is not just about one clause (63-1-d) ... it's about the entire amendment. And you'll hear different news soon.

bori 86,

No one is pointing teh finger or accusing the jihadis. We are only interpreting the motives. Once again as a pakistani, the reason is american action in iraq for example, where as we tend to assign the motives based on some tangible rational explanations.

The statues survived the worst of teh islamic invaders, but could not survive the jinnahic jihadis. Satue in itself means nothing, but the mind set and the TNt that acheived it mans a lot.

Response to pakistanis,

In response to my post 23, there was a flood of emails, from within and outside pakistan. Instead of emailing teh desperate pakistanis individually, this is my general response.

Q. How can we be sure that hindu india will support Paki muslims ?

A. You have to go by history, the east pakistanis who came to india were all muslims, and we supported them. In terms human aspirations to escapee from the TNT yoke, there is no religious differences.

Q. Further division of pakistan may not internationally accepted?

A. We do not believe in dividing countries, but as Mrs. Gandhi said " we are obliged to create conditions for the safe return of the refugees.

Q. Does it mean that we have to come to india as refugees.

A. Pakistanis have done taht in the past. You have to escape the army tyranny, follow proven path

Q. If india invades pakistan, they may use the bomb.

A. That is a question of military strategy, which I do not want to reveal now.

Q. Like the mukti bahini, should we call our gurilla army, sindhi bahini.

A. What is in a name, you can even call it MQM.

Q. With strategic depth option of going to afghanisatn gone, what will happen to the pak army.

A. They can choose between the sharks of arabian sea, jihadis of waziristan or the professional army of india.

Q. when can we start crossing into india.

A we are ready when you are ready.


TNT zindabad, those photos zindabad.

#5 ferozk
I disagree with your take on this SC decision, and that of cliftonbridge and mantolives.

It is true that the 17th amendment was passed by the politicians and it is,arguably, not for the court to set it aside.

It is, perhaps, also true that the current petition before the SC was premature. The objection should first have been raised with the ECP - as has been done now - and then appealed later at the SC.

However:
It is not the correct view that the court was being asked to rule on the 17th amendment, or to set it aside. As Aitzaz Ahsan pointed out, the said amendment makes it possible for the current President to hold, also, the position of COAS for the current term. However, it does not legitimize, in any way, a serving COAS to seek a new term for the office of the President as Musharraf is doing now. It is ironic that Justice Javed Iqbal agreed with this fine point, yet was anot among the dissenting judges.

More importantly, if the court wanted to disallow the petition on technical grounds, it should have done so within a day - or two at the most - of the start of hearing. Using this ground for dismissal after nearly two weeks is an eyewash.

Be that as it may, the court may have bailed itself out for now, but not for long; they must realize - and it would be a tragedy if the didn't - that they have pushed the issue into the street. Past experience in Pakistan shows that nothing good will come of it if pursued in the streets. The shameful events of today reinforce that perception.

Lastly, is it really so that the mess if not for the SC to arbitrate? It will end up there once again within a day or two. So what exactly has been avoided with tis inital dismissal?

This time, one hopes, the full bench will hear and rule on it. Whether it is fair to the court or not, that is where it is stuck, and it will be less destructive for the nation if they swallow the bitter pill and rule on it. The alternatives are just too dire to fathom.

#86 Posted by borivili_express,

Bhai ... you said that in the strongest terms. I have been saying the same thing mildly since long to no avail. If the kanjaRs don't understand, Islamists will blow up the entire goddamn shebang.

Not that I enjoy it. The Budhha in Swat or Bamyan didn't threaten me. It was a work of art pre-dating Islam and I would have preserved them. But if this is the way the kanjaRs want to belittle Islam in preserving these over the 1200 schoolgirls in burqas, so be it.

The carvings and the statues of idols are a symbol of kanjarS which have to be blown up.

They will know in due course.

Musharraf bhi zia ki tarha kursi ke saat dafn hoga

laddu are u another crazy conspirator like jay and masadi?

the blowing of the bamiyan buddha was a symbolic step the taliban took it had nohing to with idolators or idolatory, the UN and the rest of the world were wiling to spend millions of dollars on cultural preservation but had cut off aid to afghanistan, while women and children were starving and dying of disease they were restoring statues of stone this angered the taliban and that is why they destroyed them otherwise the statues had been standing for thousand of years and afhans didnt convert to islam yesterday.

but as a hindu who broke a muslim mosque in the 90s u are the ast person to be pointing fingers, tu kya arya samaji hai?

#84 Posted by MantoLives.

Yes the Moplah uprising is a very strong argument you make.

IMHO, it's just that Muslims are different. Gandhi or no Gandhi.

Re: # 75

Jayp,

I know facts are not your forte, but the Deobandi Mullahs in Waziristan who have risen up against Pakistan are Pakistan's old enemies... the progeny of the same Mullahs who were in bed with your Mahatma Gandhi...

Remember there was no TNT when Gandhi-inspired Moplahs started burning Hindus like you alive in 1920s... so blaming TNT for Gandhi's most enduring legacy might fool some people but it does not bode well for objectivity.

Laddu,

I will anytime take hamidm for a luxurious drink & dinner, but I'll behead you in a jiffy. Idolators are scum. Hamidm is not an idolator.

The blowing up of that rock carving in Swat should be a lesson. We hate idolaters and will kill them all !!!

PS: That particular statement was addressed to Maududi... a man much like Masadi obsessed with "conspiracy theories" of the west and who brandished a form of Islamist National Socialism with which he used to abuse people.

As for your abuse against Fatima Jinnah and Mahomed Ali Jinnah for being honest people... here is your hero ZAB's slap on your ignorant little face:

On December 21, 1976, the then Prime Minister of Pakistan, late Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto addressed a joint session of the National Assembly and Senate of the federation held to commemorate the centenary of birth of Quaid-e-Azam. Addressing Quaid-e-Azam's portrait hanging on the wall, he said in a most dramatic fashion: -

"Quaid-eAzam!

I know what arrows pierced your heart (during struggle for Pakistan). The British said you were arrogant. This was understandable, because you had refused to bow before them. The Congress leaders and their henchmen called you stubborn. That too was to be expected, because they had failed to trick you. What is not understandable, and what must have certainly bewildered and distressed you is, that the nation, for whose sake you were putting up with all this, was in forefront of your tormentors!"


People like you who got the chance to raise your lots because the man are in the forefront of the abuse against him.

Atleast Bhutto did not do this... which is why his party still puts Quaid-e-Azam's picture above Bhutto's.

Masadi,

There is nothing "polite" about your requests.

You still haven't answered any of the questions because frankly you are the most ignorant person I have come across.

Infact I must say you embody the greatest argument against Jinnah... had it not been for the creation of Pakistan, you would not even be a sweeper. But Pakistan gave freaks like you an opportunity to pose as academics.

Re: # 78

Hamid Miyan,

I share the same feelings for apostates like you - I would love to see the likes of munafiqoons and mushriqoons like you getting de-capicitated by the likes of Sheikh Abu Hamza and Osama - provided Zeemax and others do not get you first.

I do not care if they take your eyes off first or cut off your arms and legs. I only care that they finish off with you first before they turn their attention towards idolators like me.
We hindu idolators survived because our faith is strong enough to survive even the beheadings from zealots like mahmud of ghazni!!