A Sad Day for Pakistan

Ok this joke at Masadi has gone on long enough. It is almost painful now. Shame on those who continue to egg on Masadi by "praising" him instead of helping him with his psychiatric condition.

Tahmed writes "You and GT are not doing masadi any favor by condoning his bad habit of abusing anyone who disagrees with him"

There is one person that I detest more than anyone else on Chowk and it is tahmed, why do I detest him, because every chance he gets he supports colonization that destroyed our people, he submits to Western/white overlordship over our people and the people of the third world, on many occassions will he berate the people here if they do not imitate the white man. He will never condemn the evil that is being perpetuated in the world due to America's wars, and finally his attack on me is not because of any "abuse" it is because I have busted the temple of his gods.

Now any idiot can see that VRV and GT and the others did not write supportive posts in support of my "abuse", yet this hypocrite accuses them of that because he cannot stand anyone saying one good word about me. Regarding the abuse, it should be read in its context. There are people who have been from ever since I started posting here abusing Islam and the prophet and everything related in the most coarse terms (hamid being probably the leader), there are others who have been supporting the wide scale death and destruction that the US caused in Iraq (tahmed being the case in point), and others who take the US elite to be some kind of angels on a mission of mercy (Feroz being the case in point)- what about their posts are they not worse than calling someone an a-hole or pervert? What kind of morality is reflected by those posts when in the case of the first you are abusing over a billion people, when you could have reasoned with them using different words and in the latter two cases you are condoning the death of millions?

I have used abuse in frustration to bring down from their high pedestals the friends of the colonials and the US elite. Their arrogance comes from ignorance and I merely want to show them the true picture of their souls and my friend that ain't a pretty picture...

However from now on, I will keep to the issues on hand and not get embroiled in petty bickering which detracts from the issues, in other words I will be taking the good advice of HP. Ahmadmadani sahib thanks, you overestimate me, I am just an ordinary person talking the obvious that others have either hidden through deception or deliberately ignore, while the vast majority are merely distracted from it by the powers that be.

Long live the HP, masadi, Ahmadmadani, nanjil, GT, friendship for social justice..... the others, feel free to add your names to the list, the time for change is now

Nanjil,

He's under ban wheras the guys who said equally worst things are scot-free.

That's Chowk 4 real.

madani sahb:
beautifully said. masadi is one of the finest , straightforward and bold intellectual in the true sense I have seen in a long time. he certainly is an original thinker. I am sure he will get polished as he gets older. But i fervently hope that polish won't dilute the spirit.

#217 Posted by okhla99 on October 3, 2007 7:33:38 am

Bhonk ne wala kutta, do I hate Pakistan?? ROTFL

VRV/Folio, Jayp, Arjun and the rest of the irrational fools who hate Pakistan,

You can bark till kingdom come but all your barking shall prove only one thing,

that you are all ..........

Hamidm2,

The irony is that Masadi will actually come and thank Madani for his comments and then put up "Long live HP-Masadi-Madani friendship for Social justice" (though poor HP is quite an unwilling partner in this grand and noble coalition)...

Majumdar,

Well said... vis a vis Masadi. He has been abusing me constantly for simply airing my views. He has been abusing Ferozk, Tahmed32, okhla99, hamidm2 and countless other interactors.

Now the only reason some of the Indians here are kissing up to Masadi is because of his irrational and totally incoherent wild accusations against Mahomed Ali Jinnah which have been debunked by others on these boards. Anyone who picks up a book on history will see how ignorant Masadi really is... but ofcourse third rate jingoistic bigots like Jayp would think he is a genius. After all it takes one to know one...

majumdar:

I understand that you are using the word 'independence' in the sense of 14/15 August. In that sense you are right. However, if you use the word 'independence' in a broader sense you will agree that we are still slaves of those who rule us (whether or not they have been elected). In this sense, we have a long way to go.

But we, Pakistan and India, are indeed progressing towards that goal. It is very important to criticize ourselves and we should. At the same time we should not gloss over our achievements. Pakistan and India are way ahead of many African countries, Venezuela and Cuba in terms of general independence.

Yesterday 85 MPs resigned in Pakistan. Nobody in chowk applauded them. Their term was ending anyway, they are corrupt, they have their selfish motives etc. etc. would be the reasons given. But what would we have said had they not resigned? Small acts like these create precedents and have bigger effects in the longer run. Independence is carved through these small blows on the mai-baap frame of reference. Instant gratification should not be sought simply because it is not feasible.

In the sense mentioned above we indeed had a lot of freedom fighters. People like Gandhi, Jinnah etc. brought sparks of awareness of political rights and aspirations in (prhaps small) pockets of the unwashed in our sub-continent. In that sense they contributed to the process of awareness. It is upto each generation to push this process forward. We may not like or support each and every such process. Nevertheless, we should understand that they will eventually lead to FREEDOM.

Pakistanis have a great opportunity to LEAD the region today. They can learn from the various movements during Indira's Emergency. I hope tomorrow Indians can learn from what Pakistanis do today.

Jayp,

(The targedy that there are no freedom fighters in pakistan unlike india who gave everything up for freedom)

There were not too many freedom fighters on either side, Bhagat Singh, Azad and a few others excepted. And these people did not achieve much.

India (and Pak) independence were won by the great sacrifices made by the original white Aryan racist, fascist, bigoted freak and his German troops.

Regards

Re: # 205

madani sahib,

..... i think you will regret the day you encouraged mad man masadi - he is an idiotlogue who vents his impotent rage on chowk ........ i have been asking chowk staff to ban this fool before some innocent child is exposed to his nonsense ...... please join me in protecting our children

best regards...

Masadi is great, at least he is one pakistani who has seen through MAJ, who has realised that he created pakistan with a typewriter for the sake of the feudals.

The man had no coherent vision, that is why he could put them down in a book, it is always swaying in the wind, to suit the crowd that he was addressing. For so long the elites of pakistan have tried in vain to bulwark the tide of islam by his one speech to the parliment, again a classic case of suiting teh crowd, and that is why it has failed so miserably.

The targedy that there are no freedom fighters in pakistan unlike india who gave everything up for freedom, is the final proof of the fact that MAJ simply succeded because it suited the colonial doctrine of divide and rule, and the ultimate tragedy that what jinnah acheived by the largest migration of humanity in history created the terror central of today.

Dada,

I had a run-in with Masadi b4. He was like that but he is not like that anymore, as I see it.

Anyway I shud not bother too much abt them. It's their business.

Thanks.

VRV bhai,

(32 was calling Masadi an idiot when masadi was not calling 32 the same.)

Masadi habitually calls everyone who does not agree with him (including Tahmed sahib) as idiots, "flunkies of the West" and such other terms of endearment. You can rest assured that Tahmed sahib wudn't have fired the first shot.

Regards

A day of truth for pakistan.

Seeing all the fighting between masadi and others, the name calling of me by ylh and tahmed, no one could have said it better than this lone pakistani

from opinion of jang today


"As a general rule, Pakistanis are not happy with opinions that differ from their own. And we are unable to convey our dissatisfaction in a parliamentary, professional manner. Our Achilles' heel is to confuse the other person's difference of opinion as a personal attack on us. And, God help us, we launch into the greatest ad hominem attack there can be. Suddenly, the discussion is gone, but parents and ancestors have been exhumed and reburied. Maternal raising of children is criticised and, Lord help me, one's opponent in the argument is now either illegitimate or spreading his seed far and wide! Amazingly, one would think that the fair sex would not indulge in this Internet street-like behaviour. But alas, anger really produces a brief psychosis, and words burn my computer screen as they do the heart.

People form informal alliances based on these discussions, for it is hard to forget that insult on your laptop and the comfort that came from another friend right after. We forget the argument and begin to concentrate on personalities."
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How many times have I posted that portrayal of pakistan as a jihadic country is an idea, increasingly accepted by the world and all that I am concentrating on is lining up the facts, interpreting the events to galvanise that idea.

There is nothing personal in that, and as I can see it, what I have said and argued years ago have come true.

Nex is the iraquisation of pakistan, and as benazir would have it, it will start with waziristan.

If u want to know Okhla, I NEVER, I repeat NEVER abused anybody unprovoked. I was never the FIRST abuser. I always reponded to, as I did 4 u now, for the abuses I received.

Secondly, there's something called evolution (prolly u dont have such thing in ur life).