naeem sadiq September 28, 2007
#174 Posted by tahmed32 on October 2, 2007 7:40:34 am
masadi #168 " If humanity is like you then I'll renounce my membership in its ranks."
No, please dont renounce your membership. Without your incisive, brilliant, intellect to help sort things out, humanity will be doomed!! And earth will become the Planet of the Apes!! :-(
No, please dont renounce your membership. Without your incisive, brilliant, intellect to help sort things out, humanity will be doomed!! And earth will become the Planet of the Apes!! :-(
#173 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 7:09:07 am
You have "talent" and "knowledge"? HP must be smoking pot when he wrote that. Clever fellow though... He has slapped you hard many times... on these boards... except that he has patted you on the head while doing so.
I used to think a certain Professor Ali Sina was the worst idiot on the web... then I came across you. Man you take the cake.
I used to think a certain Professor Ali Sina was the worst idiot on the web... then I came across you. Man you take the cake.
#172 Posted by masadi on October 2, 2007 7:06:01 am
HP is right that I should not waste my time, talent and knowledge bickering with dimwits like you Manto......now run away....
#171 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 7:02:18 am
HP is right. You are incapable of looking at the bigger picture...
Probably because you have your head stuck up where the sun don't shine.
#170 Posted by masadi on October 2, 2007 7:01:15 am
HP writes "His refusal to look at the big picture"
The biggest picture on the global scene these days is the world system, whose institutions are dominated by the US elite, and I have a clear focus on them....
The biggest picture on the global scene these days is the world system, whose institutions are dominated by the US elite, and I have a clear focus on them....
#168 Posted by masadi on October 2, 2007 6:57:49 am
Tahmed wrote "You cant claim to care for humanity the way you do in #129, and then turn around and do your best to berate and belittle people you are interacting with (as you routinely do on chowk, not just with evil people like me, but even with gentlemen like Ferozk "
I should listen to HP and not bother with your BS, my "belittling" is based on issues, issues that emerge from Feroz's writing which reveal quite clearly to me where his loyalties lie and they are not with the people....now go to hell, apologists for colonizers and imperialists and barbarians who destroy nations don't have any feet to stand upon to tell others about "people". You are a disgrace not only to Pakistan but the entire human race. If humanity is like you then I'll renounce my membership in its ranks.
I should listen to HP and not bother with your BS, my "belittling" is based on issues, issues that emerge from Feroz's writing which reveal quite clearly to me where his loyalties lie and they are not with the people....now go to hell, apologists for colonizers and imperialists and barbarians who destroy nations don't have any feet to stand upon to tell others about "people". You are a disgrace not only to Pakistan but the entire human race. If humanity is like you then I'll renounce my membership in its ranks.
#167 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 6:57:36 am
PS: The only thing you've shaken here is your tail and nothing else really.
So don't go on declaring victory like Saddam Hussain after Gulf War 1.
So don't go on declaring victory like Saddam Hussain after Gulf War 1.
#166 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 6:56:41 am
Apparently giving sources from authentic authors is copy pasting... meanwhile abuse all day long is "argument". What an academic.
Masadi to date you haven't answered one single question I have asked you... except abuse. I suppose this passes for academic debate where you come from i.e. Assylum for the insane.
Masadi to date you haven't answered one single question I have asked you... except abuse. I suppose this passes for academic debate where you come from i.e. Assylum for the insane.
#165 Posted by masadi on October 2, 2007 6:52:32 am
Feroz writes "I think that Masadi's problem is that he is an academican and somewhere he got lost in the academia and lost all contact with reality"
Another cheap excuse from someone who has really poor comprehension. He reads the preamble of the US constitution and concludes that it says that governments are created to bring happiness to the people. He reads that a certain amendment is illegal and thus not applicable and then concludes that another amendment would be need to amend the illegal amendment. He reads that the parliment under the gun constructed a law and then says "why did they not resign". This guy is pathetic, I doubt if he ever went beyond the bachelor's level in his "education" and yet poses as a dispenser of reality. The facts are on my side, I tabulate them in every post, while the US elite dominate the world system and its institutions, this jerk thinks that they are "demons" of my own creation, somewhat similar to Fox News propaganda trying to brush away facts in the tabloid manner.
Regarding Manto, in every argument he has brought forth, and he hasnt brought forth many, mostly he is capable of only copy-pastes, I have dismantled them and shaken the faith of countless folk here in the church of Maj, now for the first time young folk and old alike on here question the feudal, anti-Muslim, origins of Pakistan and the shenanigans of the MFJ where the M stands for mama, the F for (F'ing) and the J for Jinnah, who whored the Muslims of India to both the Colonials and the Hindu elite.....
Another cheap excuse from someone who has really poor comprehension. He reads the preamble of the US constitution and concludes that it says that governments are created to bring happiness to the people. He reads that a certain amendment is illegal and thus not applicable and then concludes that another amendment would be need to amend the illegal amendment. He reads that the parliment under the gun constructed a law and then says "why did they not resign". This guy is pathetic, I doubt if he ever went beyond the bachelor's level in his "education" and yet poses as a dispenser of reality. The facts are on my side, I tabulate them in every post, while the US elite dominate the world system and its institutions, this jerk thinks that they are "demons" of my own creation, somewhat similar to Fox News propaganda trying to brush away facts in the tabloid manner.
Regarding Manto, in every argument he has brought forth, and he hasnt brought forth many, mostly he is capable of only copy-pastes, I have dismantled them and shaken the faith of countless folk here in the church of Maj, now for the first time young folk and old alike on here question the feudal, anti-Muslim, origins of Pakistan and the shenanigans of the MFJ where the M stands for mama, the F for (F'ing) and the J for Jinnah, who whored the Muslims of India to both the Colonials and the Hindu elite.....
#164 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 6:29:41 am
Ah... I suppose some people just want to vent their frustration with being an Indian. Mahatma Modi, Mahatma Advani and Mahatma Gandhi ji ki jai.
#163 Posted by arjun3 on October 2, 2007 6:16:38 am
#159 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 5:53:30 am
blah blah gandhi blah jinnah blah august 11th speech blah
You can spin it anyway you want...build theories that only play in your echo-chamber of self-delusion...theories that nobody outside pureland is buying..
The fact remains: Pureland, TODAY, is known by the world for being the cradle of islamic terrorism.
blah blah gandhi blah jinnah blah august 11th speech blah
You can spin it anyway you want...build theories that only play in your echo-chamber of self-delusion...theories that nobody outside pureland is buying..
The fact remains: Pureland, TODAY, is known by the world for being the cradle of islamic terrorism.
#162 Posted by shishapa on October 2, 2007 6:14:46 am
Re: # 159
Answers to Pakistan's Jinnah and Liaqat Ali
Khans are India's Mody and Advani and Thakre.
No match at all, Indian standards fall way
short of Pakistan, Pakistan wins again
hands down in this category.
Answers to Pakistan's Jinnah and Liaqat Ali
Khans are India's Mody and Advani and Thakre.
No match at all, Indian standards fall way
short of Pakistan, Pakistan wins again
hands down in this category.
#161 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 6:03:49 am
Yaar Shishapa,
Not everything is a childish game. Besides... I am only pointing out a fact of history... not indulging in who won or lost.
Not everything is a childish game. Besides... I am only pointing out a fact of history... not indulging in who won or lost.
#160 Posted by shishapa on October 2, 2007 6:00:39 am
ghandhi wins, Mr. Jinnah warned ghandhi
against commuanlism but succumbed (sp?)
and become communal like ghandhi.
I would say the most effective and best
disciple of communal gandhi was Jinnah.
against commuanlism but succumbed (sp?)
and become communal like ghandhi.
I would say the most effective and best
disciple of communal gandhi was Jinnah.
#159 Posted by MantoLives on October 2, 2007 5:53:30 am
Shishapa bhaijaan...
Read #127 in full if you have the moral courage to.
Mohar mian...
Please read post #127... The victim of the Congress' pandering to the Mullah to this day remains you... the Indian Hindu.
Pakistan's problems are not unique to Pakistan. Any Muslim majority society in this day and age would go through a similar trajectory and most Muslim societies are (as any Christian Society in the 16th century would have)... it is about the evolution of society. We will come out of it.
But imagine what happened with you... the Indian Hindu. Not only did those like Jinnah - who as a Congressmen had warned against pandering to the Mullahs- managed to get large tracts of lands in the name of settlement on behalf of the Muslims... but Congress' unholy matrimony with the Ulema of Deoband left Congress and India in a position where it can't even have one uniform secular civil code despite being a constitutionally secular country... where the state is not only forced to put up with the polygamous habits of a minority... but the state is also forced to subsidise the same.
And the unkindest cut of all for Hindus like you... the Republic of India recognises and even gives pensions to Moplahs (who burnt Hindus like you alive) in the non-cooperation/Khilafat Movement.
All this could have been avoided... had Gandhi listened to Jinnah... but I have made a solemn promise not to bash Gandhi on his birthday... and so I won't say much more on this topic today.
Read #127 in full if you have the moral courage to.
Mohar mian...
Please read post #127... The victim of the Congress' pandering to the Mullah to this day remains you... the Indian Hindu.
Pakistan's problems are not unique to Pakistan. Any Muslim majority society in this day and age would go through a similar trajectory and most Muslim societies are (as any Christian Society in the 16th century would have)... it is about the evolution of society. We will come out of it.
But imagine what happened with you... the Indian Hindu. Not only did those like Jinnah - who as a Congressmen had warned against pandering to the Mullahs- managed to get large tracts of lands in the name of settlement on behalf of the Muslims... but Congress' unholy matrimony with the Ulema of Deoband left Congress and India in a position where it can't even have one uniform secular civil code despite being a constitutionally secular country... where the state is not only forced to put up with the polygamous habits of a minority... but the state is also forced to subsidise the same.
And the unkindest cut of all for Hindus like you... the Republic of India recognises and even gives pensions to Moplahs (who burnt Hindus like you alive) in the non-cooperation/Khilafat Movement.
All this could have been avoided... had Gandhi listened to Jinnah... but I have made a solemn promise not to bash Gandhi on his birthday... and so I won't say much more on this topic today.
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