Musharraf’s New Ordinance Hoopla

On the other hand Kulharee calls me an AH- he actually spells it out explicitly together with other curses and gets away scot free, even in this post NAZI is a greater insult especially when coupled with a lie than "Dumbo"- a disney character- fat nonetheless....

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Kulharee writes " I know Masadi is married to a Nazi (actually a Nazi married to a Masadi – a match made in haven), who else here is married to outside of their puny little circle? "

Actually I am unmarried, unlike Kulharee who is married to, as is the case with desis in the US,9 times out of 10, get to pick from low status whites- the ones whom no white man would pick- the single moms with three kids or women the size of an elephant. Even then the "elephant" treats them as if they are rubbish just because of their skin color. So if you are not involved in an inter-racial marriage, i.e. married to a white woman who could not find a white mate so she "accepted" you (like the Kulharee marriage with Dumbo),chances are you are healthier, happier and all the wiser for it...."

hamidm - cow dung is the single biggest contributer to global warming. I think you should tell your peshawari contacts that India is sinking the world :(

"If they nuke Waziristan, they'll need to nuke half the planet as well"...half the planet Zee? how ? are the shias in iraq going to care? is FATAH going to care? will saudi arabia stop licking uncle sams sack? Will the MQM take up the ummah flag? ....half the above groups would sooner kill the talibanists themselves than kill to avenge them.
Exactly what part of the muslim population will agitate so badly they will have to be bombed?....only the part already fighting the war right now and noone else. Others may feel bad about it but thats all. EVERYONE has their own problems to address first. The world really is that brutal and self serving.
Yknow if i was amreeki and i wanted to bomb a crater thru the tribal areas i WOULD escalate tension btw them and pakistan. I would hold a referendum. Id let the dum dums win. Then i'd say waziristan is attacking pakistan and pakistan is about to lose control of nukes ...and then id bomb them good and proper.
Noone would utter a single word of condemnation. There would be large visable signs of regret and fortitude all over the world and that would be that.
The best thing for pakistan and waziristan is to let small scale fighting continue btw armed combatants till everyone stops giving a damn. Neither side can 'win' but we can both lose, specially since many of us consider ourselves the same people. (fundos and nonfundos alike)

Re: # 256

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... and there was an Uzza as well ... are you keeping her for yourself you naughty hamidm you ?

#255 Posted by hamidm2,

But we already have Lat and Manat ... Who do you think neembu and scout_new are ?

Re: # 254

zeemax,

... what does that tell you? .... i have always maintained that the solution lies in the liberation of hijaz and a un led reformation of islam .... personally, i wouldn't mind the restoration of lat and manat in the kaaba ..... maybe after hajj ....

#251 Posted by cliftonbridge,

You really believe nukes are an option? I know many americans believe they should be used but it is not only Waziristan. If they nuke Waziristan, they'll need to nuke half the planet as well.

Do read the following link from Time Magazine. On the first glance you may think it's talking about Afghanistan, but actually it is South Thailand.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1644900,00.html

Re: # 251

clifton,

.... there is no such thing as an 'innocent' afghani ..... according to my uncle, who is a magistrate in peshawar, these people are responsible for global warming ....... a couple of summers ago when it was a sweltering 120 degrees he said, 'it has never been this hot in peshawar ... ever since these damn afghan refugees started burning tires and anything else they can lay their theiving hands on, the temperature has gone up at least fifty degrees "

#248 Posted by hamidm2

I don't disagree with you at all. I may not have any blood relations with pathans but I used to know those areas like the back of my palm. I have traveled extensively in the tribal areas and have numerous friends in Kohat, Peshawar and the other parts of NWFP. In fact, this weekend I talked to my friend in Peshawar, a Bungash, who wants me to help him emigrate to Canada. He thinks the situation is pretty bad there. He happens to be an executive in a bank in Peshawar.

The tribal are caught in a game between the army and the havayoon and malaoons in the name of Islam. The army is helping them and then turns around and send tribal faujis to fight them. That is so ridiculous.

We need to call their bluff and the best way is to ask for a referendum. The referendum results would decide what needs to be done with these malaoons and havayoon and their partners in the army.

So far america has not used nukes, and thats ONLY because of the HUGE power dispairty - afghanistan only put up a whimper when they were invaded. If the "movement" ever becomes a serious threat rather than a big nuisance believe me the nukes are coming. How will they fight that exactly?

Americans may not have "won" in afghanistan...taleban certainly havent won and are not going to, - but between these both kanjars innocent afghanis lose everyday.

#247 Posted by cliftonbridge,

Cliftonbridge, your opinion is fair but it assumes USA is capable of an armegeddon in Waziristan. It bombed Afghanistan into the ground didn't it? But it didn't get them anywhere. Waziristan is same same.

Right now even Pakistan military is using gunships and F-16s over the area as well, but the movement is growing. What more will USA do? Send in ground troops? But as you know ground troops are getting slaughtered like sheep over there.

As I always say ... you can kill an army with bombs, but not a movement.

And yes, there will be huge suffering for innocent women and children, but what do you do with libero-fascists who just wouldn't get it in their ignorance?

WOT is not sustainable. Period. USA will have to leave Afghanistan sooner than later and plenty of scores will be settled. HP is right. Pakistan must distance itself from it.

After all, these are Pakistan's own tried and tested loyal citizens to whom Pakistan owes a hell of a lot.

another famous quote:

grandpa durrani (poplazai): i would have killed your mother before i gave her in marriage to an afridi .... a punjabi dal-khor is much better than someone who eats bara gosht (beef) and then lies about it ........

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hp,

...... the tribals - specially the maliks and sardars - are not fools ..... if they had a referendum in the tribal areas most of them would opt to stay within pakistan where they can get free electricity, duty-free land cruisers and totally free toyota corollas stolen from the rest of the country ..... they also manage to run a lucrative drug business under the protection of the narcotics control board and the political agent .....

... these people have their cake and eat it too .... there are more achakzai, afridi, khattak, niazi and durrani generals in the paki army than syeds and sheikhs ....... the frontier constabulary and the various scout units are primarily staffed with tribesmen who manage to get 'abducted' when they are called upon to do what they are paid to do ...... in peace time they make a good living by selling forests, facilitating smuggling of 'transit' goods from afghanistan back into pakistan, and helping drug dealers and car thieves ....... these people are incorrigible, without any deen or iman and would sell their own sister to make a quick buck and then go on the warpath to avenge their honor ! ..........

.... and i say this based on my experience with family members on my mother's side, who i love dearly ..... of course, i could also quote khushal khan khattak who had his people figured out hundreds of years ago:

Of the Pathans that are famed in the land of Roh,
Now-a-days are the Mohmands, the Bangash, and the Warrakzais, and the Afridis.
The dogs of the Mohmands are better than the Bangash,
Though the Mohmands themselves are a thousand times worse than the dogs.
The Warrakzais are the scavengers of the Afridis,
Though the Afridis, one and all, are but scavengers themselves.
This is the truth of the best of the dwellers in the land of Pathans,
Of those worse than these who would say that they were men?

I am surprised you think thats a good idea Zee. Its only good for nationalistic pakistanis who are not pushtoon. Moments after "liberation" Independant waziristan will be bombed into the ground wont it ? (back to the stone ages ...actually i think the stone ages may not have looked too different).... Many people will die many of them stupid but innocent. At least the people dying now are armed combatants not civilians (on both sides). The real people of waziristan are better off with paksitan ...if you let them vote however we will NEVER hear the womens opinion(ofcourse) and the biggest ghundas will hijack the vote which is what always happens in pakistan. The common man and woman will suffer horribly, even more than before...just so a bunch of jerks can fire klashinkoffs into the hills in victory....for five minutes...before armegeddon.