Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?

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Re: # 185

okhla99,

.... leave masadi alone - he is just a frustrated gasbag who will settle down as soon as he finds a real job and qualifies for a car loan from citibank ...... save your wrath for real jihadis like zeemax and urstruly

Utterly and completely respected Masadi,

Do you know that "they" are now coming after you in Pakistan? Mullah Omar, Laden and all of you foaming mouth Jihadis are soon going to be rounded up.

The rest of the world may consist of "dimwits" and "peons" (in your respected opinion, that is), but extremist folks like your badself are going to get wiped out. The writing is on the wall. Every one (literate) can read it. You cannot, for some reason. We all pray for the success of this enterprise (elimination of the extremists with US help).

Only then shall peace return to Pakistan.

masadi: Now is the time for you to try the good Dr. Shankar's prescription (i.e. to practice not blaming the US every time you have stomach gas).

I know it hurts, but it will do you good. You might even get a real job...

hamidm: not being perfect like you and masadi, i realize that i may write something that on reconsideration is incorrect and then i have no problem taking back what i said.

however, i dont need to back down from something i never said. i dont expect masadi to understand this simple point, but i have high hopes from you.

hamid writes "....... and you can always quote me on this - unlike tahmed, i will never back down from this statement ..... it happens to be the truth"

I appreciate your honesty unlike tahmed you're no hypocrite even though you're a master moron...

Now, don't think I am posting these because I want to prove something to tahmed, not at all. I know his mentality and i consider him a sos, where the latter s stands for swine. These posts were made for the benefit of the people on Chowk so they understand the enemy of the people, they understand those that talk big about Pakistan yet are encouraging our further slavery to the white man. Know them, know them well for come the day of atonement, you will see how the people deal with their kind...

Tahmed writes "This is the best you could come up with from the thousands of posts I have written on chowk: "The UK (coalition partner of the US) left India a democratic country with secular principles. An Indonesian friend of mine bemoaned the fact that they were ruled by the wrong country and not by the UK, and thus failed to inherit strong democratic traditions after independence."

Where above does it say above that I support the "support the colonization of our people "? And where does it say above that i consider the brits to be "superior"?"


Let me give the half brained retards a lesson in comprehension: What is the above quote telling you?

It is telling you a positive of the British Colonization of India, in the context of how the current Iraq war will similarly benefit Iraqis and that positive he says is the "democratic and secular tradition in India" (even though the Brits who had a master slave relation with the Indians and flooded the land with Christian missionaries- had nothing to do either with democracy or with secularism). Now he tells in the second sentence as "Proof" that his Indonesian friend was crying about the Dutch and not the Brits colonizing them because if the Brits did that Indonesia would have strong democratic roots as well.

Now, there are two points in this second part, first, he proclaims the superiority of the Brits as "masters" to the Dutch and second he proclaims the superiority of the Brits as "democracy originators" over the indigeneous systems which by the way it is presented is assumed to be "inferior" to democracy (attributed to the British).

There you have the nuts and bolts of his statement and even if you are a half brained moron, you can read the entire article and get the exact same message and theme...

Re: # 177

masadi,

.... if it is any consolation, i will confess that i truly believe that today america alone bears the white man's burden to civilize the barbaric world - specially the mahommedans .......

....... and you can always quote me on this - unlike tahmed, i will never back down from this statement ..... it happens to be the truth

hamid writes "if it hadn't been for colonization you would have been running around naked chasing your dinner ! ...... "

No, if it hadn't been for colonization Pakistanis wouldn't now be grovelling in their excrement suffering from countless infectious diseases that the "civilized" British had a long history of doing...

tahmed writes "The seeds for terrorism in Pakistan were sown by zia..."

No, they were sown by your masters the Americans whose peon Zia was and who was helped by the Americans and whose dictatorship was legitimized by their wheeling and dealing with him in fighting a proxy cold war in Afghanistan. That you are trying to hide all the negatives of the US elite you worship, including their rampant racism around the globe and at home, is by itself evidence that you support their barbarism i.e. neo-colonization around the globe not to mention your explicit support in that third rate article you wrote...

Re: # 174

masadi,

... you ingrate! ....... if it hadn't been for colonization you would have been running around naked chasing your dinner ! ......

Even though it is extremely clear from the posts of tahmed and the points of views he supports that he i) supports the British colonization of India and ii) Considers them and what he describes as the Anglo Saxon Ethos "superior" to that of our people, let me give him a chance to prove that I am the liar as he says.

Let him explicitly state here that he i) Condemns the colonization of India by the British and ii) that Anglo Saxon Ethos and the British tradition in our lands is absolutely not superior to anything indigeneous.

Let him state this explicitly, he will not because HE is the lying hypocrite

majumdar writes "Tahmed sahib seems to be reporting what his Indonesian friend had commented on. Does he say that he believes in what his friend says?"

You happen to be the half brained retard that I was referring to in the previous post. Read that comment in the context of the POSITIVES he is presenting of the tradition of US/UK colonization and the war on Iraq. Have you bothered to read the article where he is listing the positives of colonizaton and US/UK domination as he builds his case for the Iraq war.

Tahmed writes "Where above does it say above that I support the "support the colonization of our people "? And where does it say above that i consider the brits to be "superior"?

You remain a liar. "

Only a half brain retard, after reading your article, will conclude otherwise. Your entire article as well as that quote where you present as PROOF the fact that your indonesian friend was bemoaning that the Dutch instead of the British colonized them otherwise they would be better, tells the reader that you supported the British colonization of India when you present the positives of that colonization. You are the liar and when caught with your pants down and exposed, you put your tail between your legs and whimper away like a person with extremely weak and shallow morals...

hamidm: I can understand your anger at the murder of over a hundred people in a peaceful crowd yesterday. But dont take it out on me or on Islam. I am being factual when I say that muslim societies in history have in fact been quite tolerant of minorities (e.g. after the fall of muslim rule in Spain, thousands of spanish jews chose to migrate to ottoman turkey rather than stay in spain or go to any other european country).

The seeds for terrorism in Pakistan were sown by zia, and the crop tenderly cared for by musharraf as part of his policy of presenting his dictatorship as being the only option to takeover by extremists. You are merely projecting your distaste for the "islamic culture" inflicted upon you as a child to ignore this simple fact and join hindu and christian religious fanatics in demonizing islam.