Thank You Suicide Bomber! No one is talking about my 1.5 Billion anymore!

hamid to zee : your 'impoverished' iman-crazed friends killed 17 soldiers

zee to hamid: You did Bajaur Madrassa and you got Lal Masjid...
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It's nice to see you pakis are so full of love for each other... keep it coming fellas, the more the merrier... :)

#22 Posted by hamidm2


... your 'impoverished' iman-crazed friends killed 17 soldiers ..... carry on ...

Actually it's 30 dead and 30 critically injured. Your people have now opened another front in Swat when they're getting badly mauled in Waziristan.

Look ... Read this slowly so it may have a slight chance to register in your single cell brain:

You did Bajaur Madrassa and you got Lal Masjid. You did Lal Masjid and you got the entire Waziristan. You did Waziristan and you lost. Now you want to do Swat and what result do you expect? You will just be hammered and tear apart the country in the process. The entire Malakand Division will blow up.

I have a wonderful quote for you from Fazlullah of Swat:

"Ham Lal Masjid nahin hain jo bey saro-samaan thay. Hamarey pas pahaar bhi hain aur tarbeat yafta log bhi hain. Ham larein gay."

(Tr: We're not Lal Masjid who were defenceless / resourceless. We have mountains as well as trained people. We will fight)

Best of luck.

"as much bund mein kharish as my man Altaf bhai."
that is to the islamofascists

#44 Ally: Benazir's return serves the purpose of the Rule of Law because it adds to the Checks and Balances to uncontrolled power that provide the foundation for the Rule of Law. The decision by the Chief Justice to stand up to Musharraf's bullying, and the lively free press, have already shown how effective Checks and Balances are to promoting the Rule of Law in Pakistan (or any other place, where they occupy a similar foundational importance).

Theoretically I would want to support benazir she causes almost as much bund mein kharish as my man Altaf bhai. But she will be as useless and incompetent as she always was americans will soon realize this and ditch her.

Re: # 39

Hey,

I think the entire discussion is geared at derailing the entrenched Army-Mullah nexus that is responsible for the bomb blasts and which never wants an anti-Islamist leader to return.

The issue is of choice. And Pakistanis have to chose the lesser evil now. If you reject the lesser evil becuase it has some evilness , then Pakistan is sure to land up in a greater mess now.

I am sure BB is going to return if she is allowed a fair election and the Islamists are going to be decimated this time!!

Re: # 39

Hey,

I think the entire discussion is geared at derailing the entrenched Army-Mullah nexus that is responsible for the bomb blasts and which never wants an anti-Islamist leader to return.

The issue is of choice. And Pakistanis have to chose the lesser evil now. If you reject the lesser evil becuase it has some evilness , then Pakistan is sure to land up in a greater mess now.

I am sure BB is going to return if she is allowed a fair election and the Islamists are going to be decimated this time!!

All,

If we are to discuss Benazir and the $1.5 Billion

on CHOWK, let us hear from NAB here on this site.

All I am receiving thus far is a great deal of hot air here.


Romair, if I recall Naveed had a Masters degree in Business

Management from here in the US. He had Hi-Tech experience

as well at the upper Management level.

I believe that he had enough personal credibility too.

The problem I see here on CHOWK is that the fallout of

political victimization.

Benazir has been personally blamed for Karachi in the 1990's

when she took the fall for military action. Now, people

seem to think that a repetition is on the cards up north.

Romair and others: I would suggest that instead of instead

of wasting your energy on Benazir, you should focus it

on the border tribes to give up their booty and I dont mean

their goats .

The rest of the world is losing its patience....

tahmed

settle for the second best solution - namely for a return of the rule of law

how can this happen if she (and her crew) are above the law itself? How can people take the return of law seriously if the people bringing it back are the very ones who have screwed with it the most, just seems strange to me!

iron_mask #36 i basically agree with you. hope my post #42 clarifies what i think of this entire situation that has befallen our nation.

bulleye: "......so apparently hamidm, tahmad and ras love her....."

i dont know about hamidm and ras, but I had made it clear where I stand on this - namely, that benazir's return to Pakistan is a means to an end, that end being the rule of law in Pakistan. Is it really an intellectual challenge to understand that this has nothing to do with Benazir's personally??

All the chowk warriors can do is talk about perfect solutions in an imperfect world. The best would be for Benazir to announce that she will not run for prime minister and permit primaries in the PPP to permit a popular replacement; the best would be for Benazir to honestly acknowledge charges against her, and where she pleads guilty to apologize to the Pakistani nation for letting it down, to return property/funds that she understands were illegally acquired by her husband or herself, to give away the rest of her inherited property to the peasants working on the lands, and to place herself before the Pakistani court system for justice. Do you see that happening anytime? If not, then settle for the second best solution - namely for a return of the rule of law.

Urstruly can keep talking about a bloody civil war in Pakistan from the comfort of his home in the US, but the fact is that maulvis are begging to be given a "deal". Mullah Fazlullah is the latest scoundrel trying to carve out a fiefdom in light of what he thinks is a weakened Pakistan, but time will prove him to be no better than Mullah "Lets Make a Deal" Fazloo or Mullah Burqa.

And btw, given your high level contacts, you may want to tell us a bit about Musharraf's retirement arrangements..

#38 Posted by Ally on October 25, 2007 7:24:23 am


The rich need to stop being so greedy and start investing in Pakistan, we NEED an education system


Maybe you should have redirected all the money coming into pureland from saudi arabia..you know..the money being used to build the madrassahs that make the jihadis..the madrassahs that are your versions of IITs..Institutes of Islamic Terrorism..

Re: # 36

"that all thinking people seem to riding towards her... and as a result they have themselves created this air of her being the darling of the populace....."

I would like to emphasize the upon the word "created"; I think a better word will be the word "engineered". It is an open secret that in order to organize Karachi rally close to a billion (with a b) rupees was spent to make it look what it did. The state apparatus and resources were fully deployed to make it "successful". Only the Punjab police was ordered to "arrange' 5200 private buses to haul cattle to Karachi. In a country where state apparatus can haul haul crowds of half a mil through patwaris and school teachers for the most hated and dispecable dictator, organizing the size of karachi rally is childs play.

On the contrary before Nawaz sharif's arrival state machinery was liberally used to haul the asses of over 10,000 political activists in the jail in Punjab alone. SC had to intervene into "force" government to release those jailed organizers conveniently after NS was expelled again.

let me make this clear that I have no sympathy for NS, whatsoever. I think he, bitch, and 750 other "parliamentariean' should be lined up against the wall and shot; but I am only emphasizing the point how governmment apparatus and propaganda machinery is used to 'form" public opinion.

There is one criterion to judge whether a politician is kosher or not. The criterion is whether he spoke for the children who were massacred by this Butcher of Islamabad or not. If he didn't he is a part of the anti-Christ dajjal's army.

...there seems to be an interesting division of opinion, emerging on chowk, regarding benazir.......

......nearly every pakistani in pakistan, on this site, from every ideological perspective, seems to consider her an outright thief (which she is, by the way), and thinks she should be in the slammer........they consider her the cause of pakistan's problems and not not its solution.....even those who support ppp, think low of her, on this site!

this opinion seems common amongst liberal, conservative and religiously conservative pakistanis in pakistan, on this site......something that rarely ever happens......

........however expat pakistanis love her.......and are going from pillar to post, to hide her thievery......actually there seems to be some difference of opinion on this, after reading urstruly and atif2's comments.....

......so apparently hamidm, tahmad and ras love her.....what is common between these three individuals.....why do they think she is an angel, when the rest of us think she is a crook (even though they actually know she is a crook).....and what differentiates them from the rest of us who are not in the west (and from urstruly and atif2)?

IMHO

This isnt a fight about Islam v's secular or democractic principles... its more about poor v's rich, the aggrieved v's the agrievers...

The rich need to stop being so greedy and start investing in Pakistan, we NEED an education system a healthcare system and our young ppl to have opportunity... none of this exists in Pak, and ppl flock to the one they think can provide it (1st it was the mma now its the ppp - roti kapra makkan)... instead mushy buys more toys for the boys and does some underhand deals with the pyscho mullahs... if just for one year, just one year, the pak forces gave up there budget and gave it to social development there would be so much betterment in our society and probably a lot less extremism, bomb blowing etc...

Ok she says she was tired , but why did the whole , Leadership basking at the Glory ON TOP , joined her en mass , down , at the exact Moment...... did they all knew , something fishy will happen......??