Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan

jayp,

simply because there were no TVs during the koranic times.

... however satellite phones were ... courtesy of Gabriel!

Zeemax 138,

I recall teh early days of LTTE in srilanka, the govt banned the sale of bicycles in the tamil region because the LTTE were using them.

The satelite phones, well the govt can get in touch with teh iridium or what ever, and the US will help to shut that down.

Then again, satelite phones are helpful in locating the bad guys. Now for teh B52s, one does not need much of any accurate locations.

#137 Posted by jayp,

...and now what mushy needs is gas chambers.

Hmmm ... I could consider that ... but is musharraf a good counterparty credit risk?

I mean, I know the Jihadis always meet their financial commitments, so guess I'll stick with the guillotines!

Romair,

Where are you. I cannot access even dawn. With the mobile phones down, internet shut down, it should be boom time for teh Pak IT sector.

I do hope that teh events of today will make the educated of pakistan aware of the reality, there is no point in pretending, pakistan is an islamic country, and media freedom is un-islamic, simply because there were no TVs during the koranic times.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2800993.ece

" But General Hamid Gul, the former head of Pakistan’s military intelligence and a long-time opponent of Bhutto, said Musharraf's state of emergency would have no impact in the war with Islamic militants.

“The terrorist campaign will become more intense, but the army cannot do any more under martial law. It’s a suicidal action on Musharraf's part,” Gul said.

Haha ... I'm having the time of my life !

Zeemax,

You wanted to go into gulletine production. Up grade that to gas chambers. It is estimated that a million jihadis have been produced by teh madrassas, and now what mushy needs is gas chambers.

contd ...

and the entire coordination of tribal actionms is facilitated by the mobile phones

Err ... no ... it is coordinated with satellite phones ... and you can't shut them down. Sorry!

LoL .... Haha .... good fun jayp!

Hamid gul has been arrested. That is good news, there are elements in teh pak military that trying to overthrow my dear mushy. I hope a few more generals will vanish, this time serving generals.

The entire notion of judiciary in pakistan is absurd, teh courts make sense only when there is a law enforcement mechanism. Pakistan has no such system and it is natural that teh courts should go.

Mushy, thanks for removing teh pretensions and I hope you will find some military people to become cheif justices, and remove the last of this charade.

#131 Posted by jayp,

It happens to em ...

Haha ... yes I agree you a have a problem with fingers and mind. Is there any chance your mind is in your bottom and your fingers are stuck in it? hahaha :)

As for your thesis re "there need to be death squads", have you ever seen any better death squads than the Jihadis? haha!

Zyxius writes "I know of a Masadi who is a Bibi chamcha and also current MQM thug"

You have no clue about me so keep your damn trap shut if you don't know what you're talking about.

Regarding the TV channels, all Western and Indian media were accessible before Musharraf, in fact in 1992 the government itself was broadcasting CNN live- when you have no control over information it makes little difference if you give licences to one or hundred and one tv channels, but trying to block information as Musharraf is doing now stinks not only because it is impossible to implement given access to the global media but because it stinks of hypocrisy. Not only have you not been able to answer what I write your support for dictatorship of the worst kind thus far in Pakistan, that has not only increased cronyism and taken it to new levels, it has increased public poverty and fermented a civil war, tells us a lot about your immorality...

Politicians are 'corrupt'! Journalists are 'traitors'! Judiciary is 'overstepping its limits'! The 'bloody civilians' are 'terrorists'! Only Musharaf is 'upright, loyal to the country, works within bounds', and 'moderately enlightened'! Only he has the 'vision'; everyone else is 'dumb'. He is above and beyond law; he is above and beyond reason. Pakistan does not deserve Musharaf and yet has to endure him!

I wonder how common sense can so easily be jeopardized by irrelvant arguments! What scholarship does one require to declare that Musharaf has hankering after power and nothing else?

Zeemax,

It happens to em even at work, the always become teh, the computer seems slower than my fingers.

Go mushy go.

I agree with Zyxious, freedom in pakistan and in the media appear to be the freedom to promote jihad and the entire coordination of tribal actionms is facilitated by the mobile phones, It is time these are cut off and the jihadis sent to their heavens.

Same with teh criminals of karachi. There can be no ;legal process to handle the situation, there need to be death squads and once the place is cleaned out then one can talk about democrazy.

One has to admit the honesty of Mushy, teh charade of constitution and the supreme court had to stop, and if teh doctrine of necessity is gone as repeated by teh court, thgen the entore pakistans legal system is on the verge of collapse. If Mushy cannot become president due to soem technicality, it is absurd, only the doctrine of necessity can save him.

I blame that stupid judge for creating teh present situation, he said that they will bury even the sould of the doctrine of necessity, indicating that mushy cannot become president.

My beloved mushy, get some blackwater guys to protect you, even the army has the bearded generals and they are out to get you.

#129 Posted by NaghmaSanj,

Again another minion of the WOT wallahs missing the point altogether ...

Amaan yaar, the Martial-Law this time is neither against the Prime Minister, nor Parliament, nor to cope with any enemy etc including Jihadis. This Martial-Law focuses on elimination of independence of the Superior Judiciary and electronic Media.

So, if you want to fight the Jihadis, this Martial-Law will not help you. It will only make the Jihadis stronger to your great disappointment.

The Mahabharata tells a story about how Guru Dronacharya, the teacher of the great warrior Arjuna, demonstrated Arjuna's superiority as a warrior to his jealous rivals, by hanging a fish from the branch of a tree and asking them to compete by shooting an arrow through its eye. As they drew their arrow however Dronacharya asked each of them what they saw, and they all described the surroundings of the fish in remarkable detail. But when Arjuna was asked, "What do you see?" his reply was, "The eye of a fish."

Like Arjuna, we must also separate the inessential from the essential. It may (or may not) be true that the media are freer under Musharraf, that you can use abusive language on state television, the alternatives to Musharraf are worse, that foreign investment may decline, that young professionals may have fewer good jobs in banking and IT, that the "mullahs" (or some other bete noir) will "take over" (whatever that means), that India may gain or lose from change, etc. But surely these are not the most important issues.

Surely, the key issue is will some people be above the law in Pakistan, or will the law (any law) be above all persons? In establishing the supremacy of law (any law) we must guard against allowing those who refuse to submit to the law to divide us by playing upon our fears and prejudices. A group of people who refuse to submit to the law, and use violence to terrorise the people when threatened, are terrorists; and terrorists must be resisted, even at the expense of being called terrorists ourselves.

#125 Posted by Zyxius,

I understand your POV and respect it. But merey Bhai, please understand that the right of free speech is embedded in the constitution as part of civil liberties, and is inalienable.

It was always the 'right' of the media to be free, and noone did them a favour when it was finally allowed.

Now that it's been revoked, will you think the next person who reverses it will do a 'favour' as well?

But jayp, you're right about one thing. The yanks are hopping mad about their $10 billion gone for nothing, and want their money's worth. Read Washington Post and NY Times today. They are ALL cribbing about the $10 billion.