Chowk November 3, 2007
#46 Posted by bjkumar on November 3, 2007 1:04:50 pm
Masadi sahib, the US was telling Mushy for weeks NOT to impose emergency.
The US asked Mushy to not to impose emergency even YESTERDAY!
After Mushy did so anyway, the US has denounced it.
The US has explicitly asked him to bring in democracy - the Mushy has given no hint of it - not even lip service!
It is absolutely incorrect to assume that the khakis listen to the US when their own selfish interests are involved!
#45 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 12:58:23 pm
bjk writes "Clearly, the Pakistani khakis have decided that they do not mind taking a chance at upsetting the GWB. The US is hardly in any position to extend any guarantees to the BeeB!"
That is where you don't get it, the US controls the "Khakis", they just want an individual out of the picture at the moment, and they are in position to use the "khakis" for that end if they so choose. The BB would never return without American guarantees, that I can guarantee you...
That is where you don't get it, the US controls the "Khakis", they just want an individual out of the picture at the moment, and they are in position to use the "khakis" for that end if they so choose. The BB would never return without American guarantees, that I can guarantee you...
#44 Posted by hamidm2 on November 3, 2007 12:58:01 pm
sheikh rashid zindabad !
.... he told us the other day on tv that this would happen ....... if you want to know what is going to happen next, stay tuned to sheikh sahib .......
...... he also had the balls to clearly state that you can either have islam or democracy as there is no room for democaracy in an islamic state ......
sheikh rashid zindabad !
#43 Posted by Kulharee on November 3, 2007 12:56:47 pm
Neembu, the best part of internet restriction in Pakistan will be the pleasure of not listening to Masadi’s usual bakwas. Poor guy, on top of being the dumbest bas-terd is also an a-class loser.
Bubba...yep I did. didnt I?
Bubba...yep I did. didnt I?
#42 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 12:56:05 pm
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#41 Posted by bubba on November 3, 2007 12:54:58 pm
Re: # 29 Posted by Kulharee on November 3, 2007 12:41:26 pm
Kulharee: [Anyone sympathizing with them is a moron.] Do you realize that you just called tahmed32, a moron?
[All of Tribals do not belong in any civilized society.] Agreed. But the actual cancer has spread in to Punjab, specifically Lahore, and that is where this war should be fought. Just wait till Zeemax and Urstruly show up with their napaak fauj, etc. expletives.
[They need to be changed.] Pakistan is about to implode, and maybe that would change these illeterate masses. BTW, hamidm has reported that most Pakistanis are at some wedding party. He went to find how many are legally allowed these days at a valima party. As you know, this issue is very important to the ruling elite.
Kulharee: [Anyone sympathizing with them is a moron.] Do you realize that you just called tahmed32, a moron?
[All of Tribals do not belong in any civilized society.] Agreed. But the actual cancer has spread in to Punjab, specifically Lahore, and that is where this war should be fought. Just wait till Zeemax and Urstruly show up with their napaak fauj, etc. expletives.
[They need to be changed.] Pakistan is about to implode, and maybe that would change these illeterate masses. BTW, hamidm has reported that most Pakistanis are at some wedding party. He went to find how many are legally allowed these days at a valima party. As you know, this issue is very important to the ruling elite.
#40 Posted by bubba on November 3, 2007 12:54:58 pm
Re: # 29 Posted by Kulharee on November 3, 2007 12:41:26 pm
Kulharee: [Anyone sympathizing with them is a moron.] Do you realize that you just called tahmed32, a moron?
[All of Tribals do not belong in any civilized society.] Agreed. But the actual cancer has spread in to Punjab, specifically Lahore, and that is where this war should be fought. Just wait till Zeemax and Urstruly show up with their napaak fauj, etc. expletives.
[They need to be changed.] Pakistan is about to implode, and maybe that would change these illeterate masses. BTW, hamidm has reported that most Pakistanis are at some wedding party. He went to find how many are legally allowed these days at a valima party. As you know, this issue is very important to the ruling elite.
Kulharee: [Anyone sympathizing with them is a moron.] Do you realize that you just called tahmed32, a moron?
[All of Tribals do not belong in any civilized society.] Agreed. But the actual cancer has spread in to Punjab, specifically Lahore, and that is where this war should be fought. Just wait till Zeemax and Urstruly show up with their napaak fauj, etc. expletives.
[They need to be changed.] Pakistan is about to implode, and maybe that would change these illeterate masses. BTW, hamidm has reported that most Pakistanis are at some wedding party. He went to find how many are legally allowed these days at a valima party. As you know, this issue is very important to the ruling elite.
#39 Posted by bjkumar on November 3, 2007 12:54:35 pm
Masadi sahib, the record is clear that the US was trying to dissuade the Mushy till the last second!
Clearly, the Pakistani khakis have decided that they do not mind taking a chance at upsetting the GWB. The US is hardly in any position to extend any guarantees to the BeeB!
You need to give more credit to your own ladis (like the BeeB) when they indeed carry out acts of courage!
Clearly, the Pakistani khakis have decided that they do not mind taking a chance at upsetting the GWB. The US is hardly in any position to extend any guarantees to the BeeB!
You need to give more credit to your own ladis (like the BeeB) when they indeed carry out acts of courage!
#38 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 12:54:32 pm
dm writes " He said that the third stage of transition to democracy, namely, the election of a civilian govt will continue."
The classic 1984 double-speak, enhance dictatorship to promote democracy, kind of like the US sloganeering continuous war for "peace".
When he said in urdu he consulted his foreign friends, that did not include the West, whom he addressed in English later on and begged for them to understand why he took this decision, even quoting Lincoln's use of emergency powers, with his hands trembling.....he has seen his end, the US is going to get rid of him very soon...
The classic 1984 double-speak, enhance dictatorship to promote democracy, kind of like the US sloganeering continuous war for "peace".
When he said in urdu he consulted his foreign friends, that did not include the West, whom he addressed in English later on and begged for them to understand why he took this decision, even quoting Lincoln's use of emergency powers, with his hands trembling.....he has seen his end, the US is going to get rid of him very soon...
#37 Posted by neembu on November 3, 2007 12:52:00 pm
Musharaff's speech seemed heartfelt. And yes, it takes chutzpah to quote Lincoln back to America (amused and sunglassed ikaaaan)
#36 Posted by bjkumar on November 3, 2007 12:50:52 pm
Masadi sahib, while I agree that the Parshuram should not generalize, what do you base your assertion regarding the 600 pound pachyderm on?!
#35 Posted by Kulharee on November 3, 2007 12:50:26 pm
Masadi let's leave your abu little girl (your ami) out of it.
#34 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 12:50:11 pm
bj writes "one of two things..."
the third possibility that you forgot:
3) she has guarantees from the US, and has been told that the emergency mess will be sorted out soon...
the third possibility that you forgot:
3) she has guarantees from the US, and has been told that the emergency mess will be sorted out soon...
#33 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 12:48:44 pm
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#32 Posted by bjkumar on November 3, 2007 12:45:36 pm
If indeed the BeeB decided to fly back to Pakistan AFTER knowing of the emergency rule, it can mean only one of two things...
Thing 1:
She has prior understanding with the Mushy and has agreed to rule UNDER him.
Thing 2:
She has no prior understanding with the Mushy and she is ONE HECK OF A COURAGEOUS LADY!
I personally tend to believe the BeeB (I can never understand why the chowkans are so hard on her.)
It is possible that her trip to UAE was to put more pressure on the Mushy to yield REAL power. But Mushy being the weasel he is, never had any intention of relinquishing the same.
Under that circumstance, it is highly courageous of her to return - more than the Sharif's short-lasting return.
I somehow get the feeling that the new BeeB is far smarter than the kathputli of a decade ago!
Thing 1:
She has prior understanding with the Mushy and has agreed to rule UNDER him.
Thing 2:
She has no prior understanding with the Mushy and she is ONE HECK OF A COURAGEOUS LADY!
I personally tend to believe the BeeB (I can never understand why the chowkans are so hard on her.)
It is possible that her trip to UAE was to put more pressure on the Mushy to yield REAL power. But Mushy being the weasel he is, never had any intention of relinquishing the same.
Under that circumstance, it is highly courageous of her to return - more than the Sharif's short-lasting return.
I somehow get the feeling that the new BeeB is far smarter than the kathputli of a decade ago!
#31 Posted by dost_mittar on November 3, 2007 12:44:32 pm
Musharraf's speech:
The following points were interesting for me:
- He blamed the judiciary and media for the current situation.
- He said that he has taken this action after discussions with Pakistan's foreign friends; so the US is a party to it.
- He said that the third stage of transition to democracy, namely, the election of a civilian govt will continue.
- He did not explicitly say that the elections will take place as scheduled.
- He did not say whether the ban on media will continue or not.
- He did not make any mention of the goings on in Swat and tribal areas to justify his action.
The following points were interesting for me:
- He blamed the judiciary and media for the current situation.
- He said that he has taken this action after discussions with Pakistan's foreign friends; so the US is a party to it.
- He said that the third stage of transition to democracy, namely, the election of a civilian govt will continue.
- He did not explicitly say that the elections will take place as scheduled.
- He did not say whether the ban on media will continue or not.
- He did not make any mention of the goings on in Swat and tribal areas to justify his action.
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