Chowk November 3, 2007
#113 Posted by Zyxius on November 3, 2007 11:46:52 pm
I saw on TV day before yesterday some PML-N member calling Musharraf a "kutta" and his administration officials "billas". This is on Pakistani television and the administration allows this behavior. You will never see this freedom again under any other leader we have at the moment. Media, Chief Justice and activist lawyers are to blame for this crisis.
#114 Posted by zeemax on November 4, 2007 12:07:34 am
#113 Posted by Zyxius,
I saw on TV day before yesterday some PML-N member calling Musharraf a "kutta" and his administration officials "billas".
How is that any different from British Media calling blair "Bush's poodle"?
But never mind ... since you want to kill Iftikhar Chaudhry and Ch. Aitezaz :)
I saw on TV day before yesterday some PML-N member calling Musharraf a "kutta" and his administration officials "billas".
How is that any different from British Media calling blair "Bush's poodle"?
But never mind ... since you want to kill Iftikhar Chaudhry and Ch. Aitezaz :)
#115 Posted by masadi on November 4, 2007 12:29:07 am
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#116 Posted by masadi on November 4, 2007 12:32:35 am
Musharraf will be gone before the new year dawns, the Americans will get rid of him or he will stay without the uniform in the relatively powerless presidential position, those who are singing victory now are extremely shortsighted
#117 Posted by jayp on November 4, 2007 12:34:51 am
This is the best day for Pakistan. For a long time I have suggested euthnesia for failed states, now even mushy declared, if he were not to act it would be suicide for pakistan.
Now the media is off, the opportunities for muyshy to get any monies from others are reduced, and is totally dependant on the yanks...and the days of teh jihadis are numbered. There will be large scale slaughter in waziristan.
Finally, like the Xia days, pakistan will be living off the jihadis, thsi time army will be apid for killing the jihadis.
Now the media is off, the opportunities for muyshy to get any monies from others are reduced, and is totally dependant on the yanks...and the days of teh jihadis are numbered. There will be large scale slaughter in waziristan.
Finally, like the Xia days, pakistan will be living off the jihadis, thsi time army will be apid for killing the jihadis.
#118 Posted by jayp on November 4, 2007 12:42:05 am
Time to deliver,
Thsi time mushy will deliver, for teh nearly 10 billion he has collected from the yanks, he has not delivered osama, and now he is going to deliver...for those who live in the afghan border with pakistan, move out, the B52s are coming, and daisy cutters are not some kind of flower cutting widgets.
You all had teh jihad, you had your happy days, you helped pakistan to get some part of kashmir, you were in the kargill invasion, you helped to get rid of teh russians in afghanistan and now it is heaven time for you all, it is shehdad time, and wish you a happy life in heavens.
Then of course, if you could have a jihadic coupe, then you will be fine for some time.
Thsi time mushy will deliver, for teh nearly 10 billion he has collected from the yanks, he has not delivered osama, and now he is going to deliver...for those who live in the afghan border with pakistan, move out, the B52s are coming, and daisy cutters are not some kind of flower cutting widgets.
You all had teh jihad, you had your happy days, you helped pakistan to get some part of kashmir, you were in the kargill invasion, you helped to get rid of teh russians in afghanistan and now it is heaven time for you all, it is shehdad time, and wish you a happy life in heavens.
Then of course, if you could have a jihadic coupe, then you will be fine for some time.
#119 Posted by Zyxius on November 4, 2007 12:45:40 am
Mr Masadi...your personal attacks reveal your distaste for purposeful discourse. My anger was directed at public figures whom rightfully deserve criticism from the public. Your personal attack on me is representative of how the "democratic opposition" handles any democratic debate. Your name Masadi...you wouldnt happen to be one of those MQM or PPP chamchas would you? I know of a Masadi who is a Bibi chamcha and also current MQM thug. Vested interests come out very clearly Mr Masadi and your irrational hatred for Mushy is probably based on those factors.
"Must the expat son of a well known bastard". My God Masadi, you dont believe in open discussion do you? In your next line you even talk about freedom of speech. Its exactly this type of open stupid hypocrisy that Bibi and her cronies regularly dole out to the public and expect to be swallowed.
For your information none of my family has lived in Pakistan for the last 30 years. I am the only person from my family in Pakistan, and have returned many years ago to call this place my home. No political connections and I belong to a minority community, unlike the Masadis who are politicians. I suggest that if you proclaim to believe in democracy you should at least be willing to discuss matters with others without resorting to the kind of behavior you showed demonstrated.
"Must the expat son of a well known bastard". My God Masadi, you dont believe in open discussion do you? In your next line you even talk about freedom of speech. Its exactly this type of open stupid hypocrisy that Bibi and her cronies regularly dole out to the public and expect to be swallowed.
For your information none of my family has lived in Pakistan for the last 30 years. I am the only person from my family in Pakistan, and have returned many years ago to call this place my home. No political connections and I belong to a minority community, unlike the Masadis who are politicians. I suggest that if you proclaim to believe in democracy you should at least be willing to discuss matters with others without resorting to the kind of behavior you showed demonstrated.
#120 Posted by Zyxius on November 4, 2007 12:48:10 am
And...Mr Masadi...what kind of BS are you spewing about media before Musharraf? Are you actually telling us that the 50 channels that exist now and openly do anything they please existed before 2000? NTM and Zee TV did not do what Geo, Aaj, Business Plus, and the others all do now. Please put forth some solid facts so as to provide some credence to your point of view.
#121 Posted by jayp on November 4, 2007 12:50:14 am
I support emergency,
The entire lal majid event is a media beat up, for a country like pakistan where a few hundred are killed in teh streets while their mobile are being snatched, the death of a few in lal majid is a non-event. It is teh media with their live coverage, turned that routine law and order event into a religious event.
The ilks of Zeemax have used thsi to incite the jihadis calling to pakistan banegs iraq slogan.
Mushy I am with you, now with the media out of the picture, go for it mushy, make pakistan a safer place, knock pout the jihadis, there are time when you have to show greatfulness, cannot be a namak haram to the yanks for so long.
Your army people know very well, they cannot keep on collceting the dollars without delivering. Good mushy good, great mushy great.
The entire lal majid event is a media beat up, for a country like pakistan where a few hundred are killed in teh streets while their mobile are being snatched, the death of a few in lal majid is a non-event. It is teh media with their live coverage, turned that routine law and order event into a religious event.
The ilks of Zeemax have used thsi to incite the jihadis calling to pakistan banegs iraq slogan.
Mushy I am with you, now with the media out of the picture, go for it mushy, make pakistan a safer place, knock pout the jihadis, there are time when you have to show greatfulness, cannot be a namak haram to the yanks for so long.
Your army people know very well, they cannot keep on collceting the dollars without delivering. Good mushy good, great mushy great.
#122 Posted by Zyxius on November 4, 2007 12:50:40 am
Zeemax, that is different because it did not exist in Pakistan before. Funny how the standards for comparison change in a second when we shift from the government to the opposition.
#123 Posted by zeemax on November 4, 2007 12:52:01 am
jayp,
teh, teh ...
At first I thought it was a typo, but you always use this spelling for 'the'.
Any particular reason? Does your mind run faster for the letter 'e' than 'h'? :)
teh, teh ...
At first I thought it was a typo, but you always use this spelling for 'the'.
Any particular reason? Does your mind run faster for the letter 'e' than 'h'? :)
#124 Posted by zeemax on November 4, 2007 12:53:10 am
#122 Posted by Zyxius,
Haha ... Blair as poodle is different from musharraf as kutta!
I guess masadi is right about you.
Haha ... Blair as poodle is different from musharraf as kutta!
I guess masadi is right about you.
#125 Posted by Zyxius on November 4, 2007 12:56:02 am
No Zeemax, having someone calling a Pakistani PM or President a Kutta on Pakistani television is different from someone on British TV calling a British PM a poodle simply because that is commonplace in Britain and the government cannot do anything about it. Before Mushy you had to wonder if you may make it home alive if you made such a statement against a Pakistani PM (Bibi) on Pakistani TV. Come on for Gods Sake...dont be so openly biased!
I am a former TV anchor from a major TV station admitting that the media is biased against Musharraf. Ayesha Tammy Haq, Kamran Khan, and others make their living on picking fights and inciting the public. The media is to blame for its own woes....I have no sympathy for them. Their formula was always to tell the anchors that viewership is only created through controversy. Its their jackal-like mindset that caused this restriction on them today.
I am a former TV anchor from a major TV station admitting that the media is biased against Musharraf. Ayesha Tammy Haq, Kamran Khan, and others make their living on picking fights and inciting the public. The media is to blame for its own woes....I have no sympathy for them. Their formula was always to tell the anchors that viewership is only created through controversy. Its their jackal-like mindset that caused this restriction on them today.
#126 Posted by Zyxius on November 4, 2007 12:58:45 am
I remember I asked Waseem Akhtar, MQM Minister, before an interview this question:
Sir, I am fairly new to Pakistan and dont really know how things work here so I hope you dont mind my asking you, but if I ask you the wrong question...will I make it home alive?
The Gods honest truth!! He laughed and replied, "no no those days are now gone and you can ask whatever you please" You can make whatever the hell you want of this, but those who arent totally brain washed know its true that Mushy has allowed this freedom even if your being on Bibi's payroll doesnt allow you to admit it.
Sir, I am fairly new to Pakistan and dont really know how things work here so I hope you dont mind my asking you, but if I ask you the wrong question...will I make it home alive?
The Gods honest truth!! He laughed and replied, "no no those days are now gone and you can ask whatever you please" You can make whatever the hell you want of this, but those who arent totally brain washed know its true that Mushy has allowed this freedom even if your being on Bibi's payroll doesnt allow you to admit it.
#127 Posted by zeemax on November 4, 2007 12:59:28 am
But jayp, you're right about one thing. The yanks are hopping mad about their $10 billion gone for nothing, and want their money's worth. Read Washington Post and NY Times today. They are ALL cribbing about the $10 billion.
#128 Posted by zeemax on November 4, 2007 1:04:16 am
#125 Posted by Zyxius,
I understand your POV and respect it. But merey Bhai, please understand that the right of free speech is embedded in the constitution as part of civil liberties, and is inalienable.
It was always the 'right' of the media to be free, and noone did them a favour when it was finally allowed.
Now that it's been revoked, will you think the next person who reverses it will do a 'favour' as well?
I understand your POV and respect it. But merey Bhai, please understand that the right of free speech is embedded in the constitution as part of civil liberties, and is inalienable.
It was always the 'right' of the media to be free, and noone did them a favour when it was finally allowed.
Now that it's been revoked, will you think the next person who reverses it will do a 'favour' as well?
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