Do You Have a Substitute?

While claiming to know less about the current situation

than hamidm's sprinkler guy, let me just add that this

emergency "crackdown' is troubling.

While Musharraf is claiming to confront the beards

and using them as an excuse for this emergency, the

people being arrested are the strong supporters of

democratic change.

The Pakistan Army needs to concentrate on targeting

people behind the suicide bombers, not the irritants

that want democratic change.

I see that a number of people here are busy attacking

Benazir instead of highlighting this strange development.

BB is the necessary element to bring back the moderates

into the Pakistani political mainstream.

The General has cornered himself and needs assistance to

fight against extremists. In that he has the support of

the PPP. But who exactly is he cracking down on?


Ras

Vaisey, Pak politics is better than any TV serial on Zee TV. You have violence, intrigue, rape, melodrama, rona-dhona and what not. Its complete paisa vasool. Even the Zee TV script writers cant come up with such masala.

Pakistan army does not let a strong emerging leader to stay on scene & challange it:

These were all Leaders (Good or Bad) perceived by People - Bad were eliminated or are in the process:

Zuliqat Bhutto
Nawaz Shareef
Benazir
ex-Chief Justice
Ehtizaz Ahsan
even Asma

Who are we to judge. Let the people elect whosoever they want. It is not the Army's business to select leaders. This goon Musharraf is dim wit - my personal opinion. Let him stand in an open election & see his worth.

NHK

Why are people getting needlessly upset? Musharraf is the lesser of all the lunatics running loose in Pakistan. That chief justice guy was an even bigger lunatic who returned the Lal Masjid to the taliban and started freeing all the arrested extremists. If this action means a few more years of Musharraf rule, that is far better than any other option.

Bibi's deal for democracy-


Mushy to Bibi: Excuse me Madam, but will you sleep with me for a million pounds?

Bibi: A million pounds?!! Why of course I would!

Mushy: Well, how about 2 pounds?

Bibi: 2 Pounds?!! What do you think I am?

Mushy: I think we've already established that but now we're just haggling about the price.

Re: # 50
"but what we need now is more than a few funny lines. You have a suggestion for a name?"

yes we need more than a few funny LINES -- we need a few strong lines to hang this "b%stard" by the nearest lamp post.....for treason -- that is for hijacking his own government.

btw THE name is Kiyani who may go for Musharraf's miyani....

Re: # 18 Mr. Kamath... you point is well taken irrelevance comes fast for mr. Gandhi in India and Mr. Jinnah . But they are national symbols. Now author says Jinnah could not have imagine. Now this lack of information was showing jinnah as not prophetic in thinking . Mr. Jinnah said famously succesive govt of pakistan will more and more corroupt. He said general way it was for financial and moral corrouptions. Just cvorrection, nothing more nothing less.
Now irony should be born in Indian mind, you cut bangladesh and wanted to mend ways. Both countries went different paths and both ended in same military led government led by martial spiritis. I think every land has ethos and like water following on lands finally meets to see bangladesh and pakistan went different way but ended at same place at same government systems of armed forces control.
My feel is india is also on way to militart rule as even religion different we have same racial dna and to be ruled and whipped by army bosses.our people have no good democratic dna and only way to rule make people good is to whip indians till their moral improves as great british management said . Please watch I said today, Indian army is moving same as mynar though that race is different. Fate is decided by desh DNA and desi race, of miltary rule as we are predisposed genetically.When whipped we work better and left to democracy we decide to sleep in offices and on fields like bufflow. Now days I feel. Wish you good morning.

"Republican Senator Arlen Specter said Bush should speak out forcefully.

``We have bolstered Musharraf with billions of dollars in recent years, and military support, and we ought to be specific that it's not going to continue,'' the senator said.

``I wouldn't support Pakistan with U.S. aid here. He's doing everything, which is against democracy.

Seizing the Supreme Court is just outlandish.

What he's done is declared himself the dictator,'' Specter said. ``And he hasn't been helping us enough on terrorism, so that I think we ought to get very tough with him and try to drive him into line.''

Re: # 45

hamidm2

Spot on...

Rashid.....#49; I like what you did with the "expiry date" analogy and I'm sure if you turn to our public, we have millions of people who will come up with such funny and witty things to say about the situation...but what we need now is more than a few funny lines. You have a suggestion for a name?

"DO YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE?"
You mean 160 million Pakistanis do not have any other than Musharraf, BB and Nawaz Shareef??
'Recycling' is a good conservation policy but to reuse pass the 'use by date' can be harmful!
Rashid

Thank you Salman for finally getting a piece in the media that doesnt call Mushy the devil in disguise. I am not a die hard supporter of Mushy, but I just think that the media, the lawyers and the judges are way way out of line and are basically trying to stage a coup of their own. Iftikhar Chaudry gave no consideration to how he was destabilizing the country, he did not care that his visit to Karachi was causing a security nightmare on May 12th, he did not care that Mushy was obviously progressing towards reducing his role, Iftikhar Chaudry was another Paki on a power trip! These lawyers and judges give the pretense of being impartial, law abiding model citizens upholding the beacon of democracy...and that is total bullshit. If they were impartial they wouldnt have fielded their own candidate. They are a political party in disguise and they are misusing their positions. There is only one solution to this and I believe we gave Zulfi Bhutto a dose of that medicine. I propose that Chaudry Iftikhar, his lawyer cronies, Ayesha Tammy Haq, and a few other media instigators/provocateurs should be tried and executed for treason or any other charge that we can reasonably justify. This should teach these bastards, and everyone else a lesson to put our national interests over their own personal egos and agendas.

It just seems that people dont see the obvious progression that Mushy referred to in his speech, and demonstrated in his actions; phase 3, the return to democratic rule. He has been tolerating media insults, the witch from hell (Bibi) returned and hurled insults and accusations at everyone in the government and instigated the extremists...killing 150 people in the process and thereafter abandoning ship and fleeing for Dubai.

I have not seen Mushy bitching about how the lights were turned off, or that IB Chief should be sacked, or that his mother didnt hug him enough. Damn it!!! I think we should hang Bibi just for the heck of it, not that she and Mr 10% dont deserve much more. I say its time to get tough and take the gloves off and let our ISI start throwing people away where they will never be found. Lets see how AItizaz Ahsen likes his new quarters in Tora Bora!

"It is possible that Musharraf also could not face stepping down as head of the Army and taking off his uniform, as he had promised to do, by November 15, whatever the court ruling. Much of his power would immediately have gone; calculation aside, the psychological wrench may also have been too formidable."(London Times)

Uniform or no uniform -- Kiyani Coup is coming -- those who live by coups will leave only by the coup.

#45 Hamidm2

[......... the problem with most pakis is that they just don't know when to stop ......... ]

On the east side, it is called the line of control!

the fool should have quit while he was ahead

......somebody should have slapped the chief justice when he started taking suo moto notice of the price of onions and began reinstating murderous mullahs as guardians of the bloody masjid ...... the old fool just got carried away ...... now he has probably pushed back elections by a year or so and bb and maulana fazloo - people who had something to gain from the trnsition - will slap him silly if he shows up for dinner ....... only perpetual losers like imran khan, the mardoodites and urstruly think the man is some kind of a frigging hero .....

......... the problem with most pakis is that they just don't know when to stop ......... i blame that droopy eyed bastard as much as i blame the goons in khaki for this turn of events ........ as bugs bunny would say: what a pair of maroons !

....... the pats are like musharraf - they thump everyone .... the lions are like urstruly - they just have wet dreams ....