Karamatullah K Ghori November 5, 2007
#14 Posted by tahmed32 on November 5, 2007 2:36:10 pm
#13 mush and his chamchas have a special place in hell waiting for them - if they manage to escape justice in this world, i.e.
#13 Posted by wd40xps on November 5, 2007 2:25:51 pm
Ego hurts when asked to wake up. What, one may question, makes someone intellectually superior to others? Ego, ignorance, foolhardiness, bookish knowledge, reading what's written in stone or being practical during crisis?
A corrupt society elects corrupt officials.
Who has since independence of Pakistan served the country better than Musharraf?
Pakistanis love to play with fire. So turn the military against the president. Get out of the frying pan and jump into the fire, or be practical and give Musharraf some time.
Violation of the constitution may be a temporary threat to democracy but the threat to Pakistan's security, if your nukes in the scenario of military and civil unrest fall into the hands of terrorists, is worse.
A corrupt society elects corrupt officials.
Who has since independence of Pakistan served the country better than Musharraf?
Pakistanis love to play with fire. So turn the military against the president. Get out of the frying pan and jump into the fire, or be practical and give Musharraf some time.
Violation of the constitution may be a temporary threat to democracy but the threat to Pakistan's security, if your nukes in the scenario of military and civil unrest fall into the hands of terrorists, is worse.
#12 Posted by arjun7 on November 5, 2007 2:21:20 pm
#5 Posted by wd40xps on November 5, 2007 12:07:55 pm
Has he not elevated Pakistan to a near superpower?
As a troll, you're not very effective.
Has he not elevated Pakistan to a near superpower?
As a troll, you're not very effective.
#11 Posted by arjun7 on November 5, 2007 2:10:39 pm
Militancy in Pakistan is a result of Musharraf’s ‘contract’ to fight America’s ‘war on terror’ in the northern parts of Pakistan.
Trying to pull a fast one?
Militancy in pureland is because of your policy of using islamic fundamentalism as a strategic tool.
#10 Posted by CreateAlpha on November 5, 2007 2:08:55 pm
$10million is nothing. I would pay Musharraf $10B to wipe out the jihadi scum. wait..we alrady paid that
#9 Posted by blithe on November 5, 2007 1:30:26 pm
Ref#7 Posted by wd40xps
You are clearly not in the league to intellectually argue on this thread.
The Supreme Court was checking the corruption of the Government, like the Steel Mills Scandal.
Do not even speak of corruption. Musharraf must declare the assets he has gotten after October 1999. A recent article in DAWN quoting Ayesha Sadiqa has put his landed assets at over USD 10mio. Does it not smack of institutionalised corruption? This in a country where 70mio of the population lives below 2 USD per day. Should civil society be worried that the army and its general are seemingly more into real estate than defence?
You are clearly not in the league to intellectually argue on this thread.
The Supreme Court was checking the corruption of the Government, like the Steel Mills Scandal.
Do not even speak of corruption. Musharraf must declare the assets he has gotten after October 1999. A recent article in DAWN quoting Ayesha Sadiqa has put his landed assets at over USD 10mio. Does it not smack of institutionalised corruption? This in a country where 70mio of the population lives below 2 USD per day. Should civil society be worried that the army and its general are seemingly more into real estate than defence?
#8 Posted by Kulharee on November 5, 2007 1:20:17 pm
# 6 Blithe.. No No. Please NO. #5 Should have all the rights to express what he feels. That’s the kind of Pakistan we should envision where everyone regardless how condemned his/her view may be, is able to express freely without the fear of a ridicule or persecution. In that spirit I would like to say that Pak Army has lived its uselessness, it is time for it to disintegrate. Our biggest threat is not the Mullahs, not the Tribal or the Talibs, but the corrupt and the crooked Army of the damned country.
Very nice write-up Ambassador Ghori Sahib. Thanks.
Very nice write-up Ambassador Ghori Sahib. Thanks.
#7 Posted by wd40xps on November 5, 2007 1:04:03 pm
Ref#6,
Pakistanis have the choice. They can go against Musharraf and put a corrupt government -like their earlier ones - in place in stead, and enjoy democracy for a while why looting Pakistan, and then turn once again into worse than Musharraf's dictatorship - if you call him a dictator.
Wake up Pakistanis. You do not know what's in the offing if your president goes.
Pakistanis have the choice. They can go against Musharraf and put a corrupt government -like their earlier ones - in place in stead, and enjoy democracy for a while why looting Pakistan, and then turn once again into worse than Musharraf's dictatorship - if you call him a dictator.
Wake up Pakistanis. You do not know what's in the offing if your president goes.
#6 Posted by blithe on November 5, 2007 12:33:37 pm
Ref:#5 Posted by wd40xps
Sickening stuff you have written to taint an otherwise fine thread. You have the temerity to write all your pro-Musharraf crap while cvil soceity and the judicary is being caged up. You actaully feel symathy for Musharaf? I think you need serious help.
We will not let you or Dictator Musharraf turn Pakistan into Burma.
Sickening stuff you have written to taint an otherwise fine thread. You have the temerity to write all your pro-Musharraf crap while cvil soceity and the judicary is being caged up. You actaully feel symathy for Musharaf? I think you need serious help.
We will not let you or Dictator Musharraf turn Pakistan into Burma.
#5 Posted by wd40xps on November 5, 2007 12:07:55 pm
Reading the full text of Musharraf's address to the nation, one cannot help but sympathise with the president and give full support to him from saving Pakistan from its self destruction.
He may have violated the constitution. So what? Where is the greater good under the present circumstances? The opposition fuels fire for their own selfish gains.
The justice department is not at fault if it declares Musharraf's election unconstitutional. We must raise our hats to the Supreme Court of Pakistan. At the same time the president is not at fault to declare the state of emergency to keep the crisis under control.
One must under the present circumstances look at the broader picture for the good of the country. What Musharraf cannot do as a president with the joint responsibility of the chief of the armed forces, that any of your past elected prime ministers or the ones vying for this job can do? Has he not brought Pakistan to prosperity? Has he not elevated Pakistan to a near superpower? What are the accomplishments of your previous prime ministers and presidents? Do they not pale in comparison to what Musharraf has done for Pakistan?
So what if he continues to be the president under the current deteriorating state of affairs? Can the opposition not wait for few more months/years to grab power? What plans do they have to bring peace and prosperity to Pakistan? I am sure Musharraf will listen to them.
People of Pakistan, wake up. And remember since 1947 when you got your independence, for how many years you had real democracy in Pakistan. You have to learn to be democratic to enjoy democracy.
Laton k bhoot baton se nahih maantay.
What Musharraf did was totally right under the present circumstances. Have patience. He does not care to give up his presidency. He does care for you and your nation.
Is there any body more qualified than him to lead you under these difficult times of unrest and terrorism? Bear with him. Look at your history since your independence, and learn something from it. Don't be a lakir k fakir in interpreting the the legality of his position. See what's good for your country.
President Musharraf, my warmest regards to you. And may Allah help you in preserving peace and sanity in Pakistan, even though you may intend to violate constitution, temporarily.
May Allah bless you!
He may have violated the constitution. So what? Where is the greater good under the present circumstances? The opposition fuels fire for their own selfish gains.
The justice department is not at fault if it declares Musharraf's election unconstitutional. We must raise our hats to the Supreme Court of Pakistan. At the same time the president is not at fault to declare the state of emergency to keep the crisis under control.
One must under the present circumstances look at the broader picture for the good of the country. What Musharraf cannot do as a president with the joint responsibility of the chief of the armed forces, that any of your past elected prime ministers or the ones vying for this job can do? Has he not brought Pakistan to prosperity? Has he not elevated Pakistan to a near superpower? What are the accomplishments of your previous prime ministers and presidents? Do they not pale in comparison to what Musharraf has done for Pakistan?
So what if he continues to be the president under the current deteriorating state of affairs? Can the opposition not wait for few more months/years to grab power? What plans do they have to bring peace and prosperity to Pakistan? I am sure Musharraf will listen to them.
People of Pakistan, wake up. And remember since 1947 when you got your independence, for how many years you had real democracy in Pakistan. You have to learn to be democratic to enjoy democracy.
Laton k bhoot baton se nahih maantay.
What Musharraf did was totally right under the present circumstances. Have patience. He does not care to give up his presidency. He does care for you and your nation.
Is there any body more qualified than him to lead you under these difficult times of unrest and terrorism? Bear with him. Look at your history since your independence, and learn something from it. Don't be a lakir k fakir in interpreting the the legality of his position. See what's good for your country.
President Musharraf, my warmest regards to you. And may Allah help you in preserving peace and sanity in Pakistan, even though you may intend to violate constitution, temporarily.
May Allah bless you!
#3 Posted by saleem_toor on November 5, 2007 10:32:34 am
“God helps those who help themselves”
Can all of us start a campaign by tying a black ribbon on our right arm in protest to the illegal acts committed, whether at work or outside? Do we have that level of courage to start with?
Can all of us start a campaign by tying a black ribbon on our right arm in protest to the illegal acts committed, whether at work or outside? Do we have that level of courage to start with?
#2 Posted by saima_gul on November 5, 2007 10:28:05 am
Capital talk.the link will show you much more;
http://blip.tv/users/view/pkpolitics
http://blip.tv/users/view/pkpolitics
#1 Posted by blithe on November 5, 2007 10:14:54 am
Good article. You and the civil society give me immense hope. Thank God you have written something contrary to the half baked twit Salman Aneel. I got so pissed reading that pro-Musharraf/ pro-Dictator propagandist (I wonder why Chowk gave him first rights on the website).
You have come like a relief to me. You represent Pakistan.
You have come like a relief to me. You represent Pakistan.
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