Rezwan Bajwa November 12, 2007
#19 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 15, 2007 10:01:12 am
Everyone is wondering why the Urdu-speaking Mohajirs of Karachi and Hyderabad are not actively taking part in this circus.
Although most of us despise arrogant, bloody, and irrational military dictators, we have to acknowledge that Mushy put an end to the carnage, slaughter, looting, and repression of Mohajirs. While the Pisser-e-Zameen, the students of PU, the Pathans and Sindhis were applauding "Operation Cleanup" of Nawaz Besharif and the wanton killing of "Choohas" by Bezamir Bhutni and her Ghaleezoola BuRbuR and giving each other jubilant high fives for Rangers killing "muttarwas," the citizens of Karachi bravely fought off their well-armed countrymen in total isolation.
Is it any wonder that Hypo Chacha Al Batteesi refers to me as "rodent man?" He is reminding us that Bezamir and Ghaleezoola referred to all Mohajirs as "choohas." Now you want us to form an alliance with the pussy (cat) and her "sher de puttar."
Although most of us despise arrogant, bloody, and irrational military dictators, we have to acknowledge that Mushy put an end to the carnage, slaughter, looting, and repression of Mohajirs. While the Pisser-e-Zameen, the students of PU, the Pathans and Sindhis were applauding "Operation Cleanup" of Nawaz Besharif and the wanton killing of "Choohas" by Bezamir Bhutni and her Ghaleezoola BuRbuR and giving each other jubilant high fives for Rangers killing "muttarwas," the citizens of Karachi bravely fought off their well-armed countrymen in total isolation.
Is it any wonder that Hypo Chacha Al Batteesi refers to me as "rodent man?" He is reminding us that Bezamir and Ghaleezoola referred to all Mohajirs as "choohas." Now you want us to form an alliance with the pussy (cat) and her "sher de puttar."
#18 Posted by nasah on November 15, 2007 7:23:36 am
The Brayings of an egotistical Donkey -- at the dawn of his departure:
" had originally planned to quit as army chief by Thursday, when my presidential mandate expires, but was 'forced' to delay until a court ruling".
“All those who are 'blunt enough' (a new definition of sycophancy) to tell me to my face what the reality is, all of them think, yes, it will lead the country to chaos if I do not handle the political environment now with me remaining as the president.”
"the 'general('s) public' -- (called Shujaat Husain, Shaukat Aziz) supported my decision to impose emergency."
"I do not believe Al Qaeda has rebuilt in Pakistan....the army remains 'absolutely' loyal to me."
"Benazir Bhutto is fueling political turmoil."
“When there is no turmoil in Pakistan, I will step down.”
“I take decisions in 'Pakistan’s interest' and I don’t take ultimatums from anyone."
" had considered resigning over the political crisis in Pakistan .....but now felt I am the man to lead Pakistan into democracy."
"I am not a dictator, I want democracy.”
"I am not a crook" (Nixon)
" had originally planned to quit as army chief by Thursday, when my presidential mandate expires, but was 'forced' to delay until a court ruling".
“All those who are 'blunt enough' (a new definition of sycophancy) to tell me to my face what the reality is, all of them think, yes, it will lead the country to chaos if I do not handle the political environment now with me remaining as the president.”
"the 'general('s) public' -- (called Shujaat Husain, Shaukat Aziz) supported my decision to impose emergency."
"I do not believe Al Qaeda has rebuilt in Pakistan....the army remains 'absolutely' loyal to me."
"Benazir Bhutto is fueling political turmoil."
“When there is no turmoil in Pakistan, I will step down.”
“I take decisions in 'Pakistan’s interest' and I don’t take ultimatums from anyone."
" had considered resigning over the political crisis in Pakistan .....but now felt I am the man to lead Pakistan into democracy."
"I am not a dictator, I want democracy.”
"I am not a crook" (Nixon)
#17 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 15, 2007 7:21:07 am
Someone asked about who is in which bed in Paki politics. Please allow me to help:
Bezamir was in bed with Mushy but the Dick Traitor refused to take his uniform off so now Bezamir is trying to get in bed with Nawaj Besharif who was already in bed with Moola Fazool Raman. The good thing is that Soodi Arabian law allows multiple occupants in the same bed.
Imran Khan was in bed with Aunt Jemima who gave her sweet syrup to Huge Grant who was rejected by Liz Hurley who went and got banged by an Injun. Now it appears that Aunt Jemima wants to hook up with the Great Can again.
One thing is constant - Hypo Chacha Al Butteesi is in bed with gora ass.
Bezamir was in bed with Mushy but the Dick Traitor refused to take his uniform off so now Bezamir is trying to get in bed with Nawaj Besharif who was already in bed with Moola Fazool Raman. The good thing is that Soodi Arabian law allows multiple occupants in the same bed.
Imran Khan was in bed with Aunt Jemima who gave her sweet syrup to Huge Grant who was rejected by Liz Hurley who went and got banged by an Injun. Now it appears that Aunt Jemima wants to hook up with the Great Can again.
One thing is constant - Hypo Chacha Al Butteesi is in bed with gora ass.
#16 Posted by tahmed32 on November 15, 2007 6:48:45 am
Chowk Staff: Masadi's question in #15 is perfectly legitimate. Whoever put that red flag is obviously in thrall of this tinpot self-obsessed scoundrel who has placed his personal ego before the national interest (even as he tells his usual lies about being for the national interest).
#15 Posted by masadi on November 15, 2007 5:35:11 am
Was Musharraf's father from the same village? Just wondering since the Daily Telegraph called him a sonofabitch....sorry couldn't resist!
#14 Posted by masadi on November 15, 2007 5:31:02 am
Given Arjun and his logic of over generalization and stereoyping, I wonder what conclusion we can draw from this fine story of love and humility.... maybe hamid can elaborate for us all.......Suhaag raat hey.....hmmmm
Indian man marries dog
New Delhi, India
13 November 2007 10:20
A 33-year-old Indian man has married a female dog to atone for his "sin" of killing two canines more than a decade ago, a newspaper reported on Tuesday.
P Selvakumar married the dog called Selvi at a wedding ceremony held in a temple in the eastern Sivaganga district on Sunday, the English-language Hindustan Times said in a report.
Witnesses said a village astrologer had suggested to Selvakumar that marrying a female dog would help cure various physical impairments that beset him after he killed two dogs 15 years ago.
The villager had killed two dogs when they were mating and strung their bodies from a tree.
"After that my legs and hands got paralysed and I lost hearing in one ear. Only recently, after treatment, I have managed to become mobile and that too with a crutch," he told the newspaper.
After the astrologer suggested the remedy for his suffering, Selvakumar got his relatives to find a stray bitch, which was given a bath and draped in a sari.
The man and dog then marched in a procession to a temple where Selvakumar tied the mangalsutra (sacred string) around the dog's neck and solemnised the marriage.
While the bridegroom and his relatives had a sumptuous meal, the bridal dog was given a bun.
Marriages between humans and other living beings are not uncommon in India and are mainly arranged by people in remote areas and villages to ward off "evil spells" and "bad omens".
Reports of parents marrying their children to a dog and marriages of girls with snakes have been reported from tribal districts in the eastern state of Orissa in the past few months.
Village elders say such marriages do not affect the children's lives. They will be free to marry again later and do not need to divorce the animals. -- Sapa-dpa
Indian man marries dog
New Delhi, India
13 November 2007 10:20
A 33-year-old Indian man has married a female dog to atone for his "sin" of killing two canines more than a decade ago, a newspaper reported on Tuesday.
P Selvakumar married the dog called Selvi at a wedding ceremony held in a temple in the eastern Sivaganga district on Sunday, the English-language Hindustan Times said in a report.
Witnesses said a village astrologer had suggested to Selvakumar that marrying a female dog would help cure various physical impairments that beset him after he killed two dogs 15 years ago.
The villager had killed two dogs when they were mating and strung their bodies from a tree.
"After that my legs and hands got paralysed and I lost hearing in one ear. Only recently, after treatment, I have managed to become mobile and that too with a crutch," he told the newspaper.
After the astrologer suggested the remedy for his suffering, Selvakumar got his relatives to find a stray bitch, which was given a bath and draped in a sari.
The man and dog then marched in a procession to a temple where Selvakumar tied the mangalsutra (sacred string) around the dog's neck and solemnised the marriage.
While the bridegroom and his relatives had a sumptuous meal, the bridal dog was given a bun.
Marriages between humans and other living beings are not uncommon in India and are mainly arranged by people in remote areas and villages to ward off "evil spells" and "bad omens".
Reports of parents marrying their children to a dog and marriages of girls with snakes have been reported from tribal districts in the eastern state of Orissa in the past few months.
Village elders say such marriages do not affect the children's lives. They will be free to marry again later and do not need to divorce the animals. -- Sapa-dpa
#13 Posted by tahmed32 on November 15, 2007 5:28:49 am
saima_gul: Time to stop self-flagellating and be proud to be a Pakistani. Pakistanis have shown the world that they will not be intimidated by a egotistical military dictator who now has thousands of citizens behind bars. Our courageous lawyers have inspired lawyers on the other side of the world with their integrity and commitment to the rule of law. Even Novak (conservative US columnist) has taken a leaf from their book and applied it to Iraq (where, in a column today in the WP, he castigates the Bush administration for focussing on prisons and not on justice and the rule of law!).
Musharraf's big lie that he is fighting the extremists has been thoroughly exposed, the latest being islamist students disrupting Imran Khan's student demonstration by "capturing" him and handing him to the police.
So, this is the time for Pakistani to unite and be proud. There is a video on youtube of Pakistani students bravely facing the police in Islamabad and being carted off to jail .. singing the Pakistani national anthem. Never did those words sound so sweet as they do on the video as Pakistanis fight for freedom. And all right thinking people in the world are with us.
Musharraf's big lie that he is fighting the extremists has been thoroughly exposed, the latest being islamist students disrupting Imran Khan's student demonstration by "capturing" him and handing him to the police.
So, this is the time for Pakistani to unite and be proud. There is a video on youtube of Pakistani students bravely facing the police in Islamabad and being carted off to jail .. singing the Pakistani national anthem. Never did those words sound so sweet as they do on the video as Pakistanis fight for freedom. And all right thinking people in the world are with us.
#12 Posted by saima_gul on November 15, 2007 5:10:16 am
So much for treachery.
1. Benazir still in some sort of contact with Mush.???
2. Fazl Ur Rehman's role in dissolution of NWFP Government at best dubious.???
3. Isalmi Jamiat e Tulaba hands over Imran to Agencies.???
4. More people killed in PPP rally in Karachi today.Are these noora killings????
5. PTV sab Acha.
There is a Chinese saying, "may you live in intersesting times". Are we cursed or what?
1. Benazir still in some sort of contact with Mush.???
2. Fazl Ur Rehman's role in dissolution of NWFP Government at best dubious.???
3. Isalmi Jamiat e Tulaba hands over Imran to Agencies.???
4. More people killed in PPP rally in Karachi today.Are these noora killings????
5. PTV sab Acha.
There is a Chinese saying, "may you live in intersesting times". Are we cursed or what?
#11 Posted by nasah on November 15, 2007 5:00:07 am
US to dump Musharraf -- Kiyani in line.
U.S. Is Looking Past Musharraf in Case He Falls
by Helene Cooper, Mark Mazzetti and David Rohde.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 — Almost two weeks into Pakistan’s political crisis, Bush administration officials are losing faith that the Pakistani president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, can survive in office and have begun discussing what might come next, according to senior administration officials.
In meetings on Wednesday, officials at the White House, State Department and the Pentagon huddled to decide what message Deputy Secretary of State John D. Negroponte would deliver to General Musharraf — and perhaps more important, to Pakistan’s generals — when he arrives in Islamabad on Friday.
Several senior administration officials said that with each day that passed, more administration officials were coming around to the belief that General Musharraf’s days in power were numbered and that the United States should begin considering contingency plans, including reaching out to Pakistan’s generals....(NYT)
Drop that egomaniac bastard -- before he ruins the country beyond repair -- for his pathological pursuits of absolute personal power.
"Musharraf's time is up" (Economist)
U.S. Is Looking Past Musharraf in Case He Falls
by Helene Cooper, Mark Mazzetti and David Rohde.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 — Almost two weeks into Pakistan’s political crisis, Bush administration officials are losing faith that the Pakistani president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, can survive in office and have begun discussing what might come next, according to senior administration officials.
In meetings on Wednesday, officials at the White House, State Department and the Pentagon huddled to decide what message Deputy Secretary of State John D. Negroponte would deliver to General Musharraf — and perhaps more important, to Pakistan’s generals — when he arrives in Islamabad on Friday.
Several senior administration officials said that with each day that passed, more administration officials were coming around to the belief that General Musharraf’s days in power were numbered and that the United States should begin considering contingency plans, including reaching out to Pakistan’s generals....(NYT)
Drop that egomaniac bastard -- before he ruins the country beyond repair -- for his pathological pursuits of absolute personal power.
"Musharraf's time is up" (Economist)
#10 Posted by jayp on November 14, 2007 11:54:56 pm
"The tragedy facing Pakistan, whether the mass public is interested, affected or concerned in this state of affairs or not, is that the third pillar of the state has been knocked off. The Judiciary which had begun to provide a viable check on Executive office is no more."
Wake up Rezwan, now in pakistan civilians can be court martial led. The army has taken over every thing and your court systems are irrelevant.
While the Harward uni is honouring the CJ of pakistan, the local university is handing over imran to Police.
Feel deeply for the state of your country, the polar opposite nature of pakistan in relation to any form of civilised conduct.
Wake up Rezwan, now in pakistan civilians can be court martial led. The army has taken over every thing and your court systems are irrelevant.
While the Harward uni is honouring the CJ of pakistan, the local university is handing over imran to Police.
Feel deeply for the state of your country, the polar opposite nature of pakistan in relation to any form of civilised conduct.
#9 Posted by tahmed32 on November 14, 2007 8:14:32 pm
Harvard gives Medal of Freedom to the Chief Justice
while Mullahs give Imran Khan to Musharraf
Harvard gives Medal of Freedom to the Chief Justice
WASHINGTON, Nov 14: The Harvard Law School, one of the world’s most prestigious legal institutions, has decided to award Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry its highest honour.
...“As lawyers who value freedom and the rule of law, we at Harvard Law School want Chief Justice Chaudhry and all of the courageous lawyers in Pakistan to know that we stand with them in solidarity,” said Dean Elena Kagan.
“We are proud to be their colleagues in the cause of justice, and we will do all we can to press for the prompt restoration of constitutionalism and legality in Pakistan,” she said.
The school plans to hold a grand ceremony to award the medal and hopes that Justice Chaudhry will be allowed to attend.
http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/15/top14.htm
IN OTHER NEWS...
Mullahs give Imran Khan to Musharraf
LAHORE, Nov 14: Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaaf chairman Imran Khan was arrested from outside the Punjab University’s new campus on Wednesday after he had been manhandled and detained in the campus allegedly by activists of the Islami Jamiat Talaba.
while Mullahs give Imran Khan to Musharraf
Harvard gives Medal of Freedom to the Chief Justice
WASHINGTON, Nov 14: The Harvard Law School, one of the world’s most prestigious legal institutions, has decided to award Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry its highest honour.
...“As lawyers who value freedom and the rule of law, we at Harvard Law School want Chief Justice Chaudhry and all of the courageous lawyers in Pakistan to know that we stand with them in solidarity,” said Dean Elena Kagan.
“We are proud to be their colleagues in the cause of justice, and we will do all we can to press for the prompt restoration of constitutionalism and legality in Pakistan,” she said.
The school plans to hold a grand ceremony to award the medal and hopes that Justice Chaudhry will be allowed to attend.
http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/15/top14.htm
IN OTHER NEWS...
Mullahs give Imran Khan to Musharraf
LAHORE, Nov 14: Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaaf chairman Imran Khan was arrested from outside the Punjab University’s new campus on Wednesday after he had been manhandled and detained in the campus allegedly by activists of the Islami Jamiat Talaba.
#8 Posted by viqarm on November 14, 2007 7:51:24 pm
In his latest interview to the NY Times, Musharraf mentioned that the thought of exitting the political scene altogether has crossed his mind; that it remains an option available to him. This was reported by GEO news.
I must admit some good ideas are finally beginning to cross the general's mind. Let us hope the idea of acting on them crosses his mind as well.
Keeping my fingers "crossed" ...
I must admit some good ideas are finally beginning to cross the general's mind. Let us hope the idea of acting on them crosses his mind as well.
Keeping my fingers "crossed" ...
#7 Posted by nasah on November 14, 2007 7:01:48 pm
"US looks to alternate supply lines for forces in Afghanistan" -- and alternate supply lines for a dictator in Pakistan.
For Bush a life without Busharraf -- is not worth living for Musharraf.
For Bush a life without Busharraf -- is not worth living for Musharraf.
#6 Posted by nasah on November 14, 2007 6:47:58 pm
A dictator in disarray -- chaos out of charisma -- a brilliant summation of total disarray that has gripped Pakistan judicial sytem brought up by Maligannt Musharraf's emasculating 'emergency' -- by a BBC correspodent:
"Disarray
The Supreme Court had, in recent weeks, set itself two pivotal tasks.
The government's frantic search for judges to fill the vacancies is running into problems.
The first, to decide if Gen Musharraf is eligible to stand for another term as president when his current term expires this week. The second, to decide if an amnesty he had signed that clears Benazir Bhutto and others from corruption cases is legal.
In other words, the Supreme Court had set itself the task of deciding if the whole delicate framework of a future power-sharing deal should be allowed to proceed.
Gen Musharraf introduced the emergency in a way that meant judges could stay in their jobs only if the government invited them to swear a new oath of office.
Mr Chaudhry was only one of many judges not to receive that invitation - hence the widespread belief that the main purpose of the state of emergency was to subdue once and for all an increasingly troublesome judiciary.
Lawyers have led protests against the state of emergency.
What has been the cost?
The imposition of emergency rule has led to a virtual collapse of the higher judiciary in Pakistan - that is the Supreme Court and the High Courts of the country's four provinces.
Nearly 60% of the judges have been ousted from office either because they were not invited to take a new oath of office, or because they refused the offer.
Thousands of anti-government activists, including lawyers with cases pending in these courts, have been arrested since 5 November when anti-government protests broke out.
More than half the courtrooms have no judges. Most lawyers who are still free are refusing to appear before judges who have taken the new oaths under the provisional constitutional order (PCO).
In scores of cases, judges are reported to have resorted to dismissing petitions because there are no lawyers to represent them.
Polarised judiciary'
The government's frantic search for judges to fill the vacancies is running into problems.
Many lawyers have been detained
Senior lawyers who qualify as judges are reluctant to wear the wig because of the polarised atmosphere.
These include top lawyers of the government itself.
Some of those who are willing to become judges lack the necessary qualifications. Others have reputations that are less than clean, which would make their recruitment appear in bad taste.
While the judicial system is thus paralysed, a little-noticed amendment to the Army Act has created further problems for the judicial system.
Since 2003 military intelligence outfits that have no legal powers of arrest have picked up hundreds of people from various parts of the country and kept them in undeclared custody for months, even years.
There is widespread evidence that most of these "missing persons" are non-violent supporters of nationalist groups from Balochistan and Sindh provinces.
Those who have been released have talked of being kept in solitary confinement and being tortured. There are also reports of people dying, or being permanently incapacitated, while in illegal detention.
In no case yet have the intelligence agencies been prepared to stand up in court and defend themselves.(BBC)
A country 'functioning' without a judiciary -- well done Musharraf!
All this mayhem -- for one control-freak -- to hang on to power -- for a total of thirteen years -- by hook or by crook -- country or no country.
But Beware of the # 13 -- a bad omen for Musharraf -- still time to go for 16.
"Disarray
The Supreme Court had, in recent weeks, set itself two pivotal tasks.
The government's frantic search for judges to fill the vacancies is running into problems.
The first, to decide if Gen Musharraf is eligible to stand for another term as president when his current term expires this week. The second, to decide if an amnesty he had signed that clears Benazir Bhutto and others from corruption cases is legal.
In other words, the Supreme Court had set itself the task of deciding if the whole delicate framework of a future power-sharing deal should be allowed to proceed.
Gen Musharraf introduced the emergency in a way that meant judges could stay in their jobs only if the government invited them to swear a new oath of office.
Mr Chaudhry was only one of many judges not to receive that invitation - hence the widespread belief that the main purpose of the state of emergency was to subdue once and for all an increasingly troublesome judiciary.
Lawyers have led protests against the state of emergency.
What has been the cost?
The imposition of emergency rule has led to a virtual collapse of the higher judiciary in Pakistan - that is the Supreme Court and the High Courts of the country's four provinces.
Nearly 60% of the judges have been ousted from office either because they were not invited to take a new oath of office, or because they refused the offer.
Thousands of anti-government activists, including lawyers with cases pending in these courts, have been arrested since 5 November when anti-government protests broke out.
More than half the courtrooms have no judges. Most lawyers who are still free are refusing to appear before judges who have taken the new oaths under the provisional constitutional order (PCO).
In scores of cases, judges are reported to have resorted to dismissing petitions because there are no lawyers to represent them.
Polarised judiciary'
The government's frantic search for judges to fill the vacancies is running into problems.
Many lawyers have been detained
Senior lawyers who qualify as judges are reluctant to wear the wig because of the polarised atmosphere.
These include top lawyers of the government itself.
Some of those who are willing to become judges lack the necessary qualifications. Others have reputations that are less than clean, which would make their recruitment appear in bad taste.
While the judicial system is thus paralysed, a little-noticed amendment to the Army Act has created further problems for the judicial system.
Since 2003 military intelligence outfits that have no legal powers of arrest have picked up hundreds of people from various parts of the country and kept them in undeclared custody for months, even years.
There is widespread evidence that most of these "missing persons" are non-violent supporters of nationalist groups from Balochistan and Sindh provinces.
Those who have been released have talked of being kept in solitary confinement and being tortured. There are also reports of people dying, or being permanently incapacitated, while in illegal detention.
In no case yet have the intelligence agencies been prepared to stand up in court and defend themselves.(BBC)
A country 'functioning' without a judiciary -- well done Musharraf!
All this mayhem -- for one control-freak -- to hang on to power -- for a total of thirteen years -- by hook or by crook -- country or no country.
But Beware of the # 13 -- a bad omen for Musharraf -- still time to go for 16.
#5 Posted by ISlamIslam on November 14, 2007 5:02:20 pm
This is what arjun8 wrote on Unplugged:
from ann coulter...
[HAHA...how badly do you have to fuck up that the only people supporting you are michael weiner savage and ann coulter?
Musharraf: the Tolstoy of the Zulus
By Ann Coulter
http://www.JewishWorldReview.com
If Republicans end up with a divided convention between Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani, I say we pick Gen. Pervez Musharraf.
Musharraf has declared emergency rule in Pakistan, shut down the media and sent Supreme Court justices home. What's not to like about a guy who orders policemen to beat up lawyers? I bet he has a good plan on illegal immigration, too.
The entire history of Pakistan is this: There are lots of crazy people living there, they have nuclear weapons, and any Pakistani leader who prevents the crazies from getting the nukes is George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison all rolled into one.
We didn't hear much about Musharraf — save for B. Hussein Obama's threat to bomb Pakistan without informing Musharraf — until the last few weeks.
Musharraf has been a crucial ally of ours since Sept. 12, 2001. His loyal friendship to the United States while governing a country that is loyal to al-Qaida might prove dispiriting to the terrorists. So, until recently, the media mostly confined stories about Musharraf to page A-18.
Now, with the surge in Iraq working, Democrats are completely demoralized. Al-Qaida was counting on them. (We know the surge in Iraq is working because it is no longer front page news.)
In a tape released in early September, Osama bin Laden bitterly complained, "You elected the Democratic Party for this purpose" — of ending the war in Iraq -- "but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning."
It isn't enough for the media to drop all mentions of the surge or to subsidize ads denouncing Gen. David Petraeus as "General Betray Us." (He IS betraying liberals by winning the war for America, the enemy of liberals.) They need to stir up trouble for the U.S. someplace else in the world.
On Sept. 20, Osama bin Laden cued liberals by issuing another tape demanding Musharraf's ouster. The Democrats and the media quickly followed suit.
Weeks later, The New York Times editorial page called on "masses of Pakistanis" to participate in "peaceful demonstrations" against Musharraf, which would be like calling on masses of Pakistanis to engage in daily bathing (The New York Times editorial page being the most effective way to communicate with the Pakistani masses). Most of the editorial was a mash note to that troublesome woman Benazir Bhutto for demanding democracy in the land of the deranged.
Media darling Bhutto returned to Pakistan after fleeing the country following her conviction for corruption as prime minister. Her conviction was later overturned by the corrupt Pakistani Supreme Court, leaving me to ponder, which is worse: being convicted of corruption in a Pakistani court or being exonerated of corruption in a Pakistani court? She was again convicted in a Swiss court of money laundering.
The media adore Bhutto because she went to Harvard and Oxford, which I consider two more strikes against her. A degree from Harvard is prima facie evidence that she's on the side of the terrorists. I note that Bhutto demonstrates her own deep commitment to democracy by giving herself the title "chairperson for life" of the Pakistan Peoples Party.
Liberals hysterically opposed our imposing a democracy on Iraq and despise Nouri al-Maliki, the democratically elected leader of Iraq. Say, has Maliki ever been convicted in a Swiss court of money laundering?
Compared to Pakistan, imposing democracy in Iraq is like imposing democracy in Darien, Conn. But in Iraq, liberals prefer an anti-American dictator, like Saddam Hussein. Only in Pakistan do liberals yearn for pure democracy.
You wouldn't know it to read the headlines, but Musharraf has not staged a military coup. In fact, he was re-elected — in a landslide — just weeks ago under Pakistan's own parliamentary system.
But the Pakistani Supreme Court, like our own Supreme Court, believes it is above the president and refused to acknowledge Musharraf's election on the grounds that he is disqualified because he is still wearing a military uniform. That's when Musharraf sent them home.
Musharraf's election was certainly more legitimate than that of Syrian president Bashar Assad (with whom every leading Democrat has had a photo-op) or Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (adjunct professor at Columbia University) or Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez (loon).
Where were the headlines like this week's Economist's ("Time's up, Mr. Musharraf";) about those lovable rogues? They hate America, so they can stay.
The last time liberals were this enthusiastic about popular rule in some Third World country was in 1979, when they were gushing about Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in Iran. Professor Richard Falk of Princeton University assured liberals in a 1979 New York Times op-ed that the "depiction of Khomeini as fanatical, reactionary, and the bearer of crude prejudices seems certainly and happily false."
I'm no clock-watcher, but it's been 28 years; I don't think Falk is going to be issuing an apology.
Falk cheerfully concluded that the fanatical Muslim leaders in Iran "may yet provide us with a desperately needed model of humane government for a Third World country."
And just look at all the wonderful things Khomeini did for Iran!
How might popular rule turn out in Pakistan? As Saul Bellow rhetorically said of multiculturalism, "Who is the Tolstoy of the Zulus?"
Pakistan is a country where local Islamic courts order women to be raped as punishment for the crimes of their male relatives. Among the Islamists' bill of particulars against Musharraf is the fact that he has promoted the Women's Protection Bill, which would punish rape, rather than using it as a device for social control.
According to The Boston Globe, the most common form of homosexuality in Pakistan -- punishable by death -- is pederasty.
Pakistan doesn't need Adlai Stevenson right now. It needs Mustafa Kemal Ataturk to impose military rule and drag a country of Islamic savages into the 19th century, as Ataturk did in Turkey. Pakistan's Ataturk is Gen. Musharraf.
To try to force democracy on the differing "I hate America" factions in Pakistan at this stage would be worse than Jimmy Carter's abandonment of the Shah in 1979. It would result in what former assistant secretary of state Edward Djerejian called: "one man, one vote, one time."
The difference is: Instead of scimitars, this den of al-Qaida-supporting pederasts will have nukes.]
Is it now OK to refer to Pakistan as Pederasts Al-Qaida Supporting and Nuclear-armed or at least by the acronym PAQiStaN?
Will this draw the ire of professors of Pederast Studies at minor American colleges and cause the Chowk editors to ban interactors for using the new acronym as opposed to the older acronym Pakistan?
Inquiring minds want to know!
from ann coulter...
[HAHA...how badly do you have to fuck up that the only people supporting you are michael weiner savage and ann coulter?
Musharraf: the Tolstoy of the Zulus
By Ann Coulter
http://www.JewishWorldReview.com
If Republicans end up with a divided convention between Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani, I say we pick Gen. Pervez Musharraf.
Musharraf has declared emergency rule in Pakistan, shut down the media and sent Supreme Court justices home. What's not to like about a guy who orders policemen to beat up lawyers? I bet he has a good plan on illegal immigration, too.
The entire history of Pakistan is this: There are lots of crazy people living there, they have nuclear weapons, and any Pakistani leader who prevents the crazies from getting the nukes is George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison all rolled into one.
We didn't hear much about Musharraf — save for B. Hussein Obama's threat to bomb Pakistan without informing Musharraf — until the last few weeks.
Musharraf has been a crucial ally of ours since Sept. 12, 2001. His loyal friendship to the United States while governing a country that is loyal to al-Qaida might prove dispiriting to the terrorists. So, until recently, the media mostly confined stories about Musharraf to page A-18.
Now, with the surge in Iraq working, Democrats are completely demoralized. Al-Qaida was counting on them. (We know the surge in Iraq is working because it is no longer front page news.)
In a tape released in early September, Osama bin Laden bitterly complained, "You elected the Democratic Party for this purpose" — of ending the war in Iraq -- "but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning."
It isn't enough for the media to drop all mentions of the surge or to subsidize ads denouncing Gen. David Petraeus as "General Betray Us." (He IS betraying liberals by winning the war for America, the enemy of liberals.) They need to stir up trouble for the U.S. someplace else in the world.
On Sept. 20, Osama bin Laden cued liberals by issuing another tape demanding Musharraf's ouster. The Democrats and the media quickly followed suit.
Weeks later, The New York Times editorial page called on "masses of Pakistanis" to participate in "peaceful demonstrations" against Musharraf, which would be like calling on masses of Pakistanis to engage in daily bathing (The New York Times editorial page being the most effective way to communicate with the Pakistani masses). Most of the editorial was a mash note to that troublesome woman Benazir Bhutto for demanding democracy in the land of the deranged.
Media darling Bhutto returned to Pakistan after fleeing the country following her conviction for corruption as prime minister. Her conviction was later overturned by the corrupt Pakistani Supreme Court, leaving me to ponder, which is worse: being convicted of corruption in a Pakistani court or being exonerated of corruption in a Pakistani court? She was again convicted in a Swiss court of money laundering.
The media adore Bhutto because she went to Harvard and Oxford, which I consider two more strikes against her. A degree from Harvard is prima facie evidence that she's on the side of the terrorists. I note that Bhutto demonstrates her own deep commitment to democracy by giving herself the title "chairperson for life" of the Pakistan Peoples Party.
Liberals hysterically opposed our imposing a democracy on Iraq and despise Nouri al-Maliki, the democratically elected leader of Iraq. Say, has Maliki ever been convicted in a Swiss court of money laundering?
Compared to Pakistan, imposing democracy in Iraq is like imposing democracy in Darien, Conn. But in Iraq, liberals prefer an anti-American dictator, like Saddam Hussein. Only in Pakistan do liberals yearn for pure democracy.
You wouldn't know it to read the headlines, but Musharraf has not staged a military coup. In fact, he was re-elected — in a landslide — just weeks ago under Pakistan's own parliamentary system.
But the Pakistani Supreme Court, like our own Supreme Court, believes it is above the president and refused to acknowledge Musharraf's election on the grounds that he is disqualified because he is still wearing a military uniform. That's when Musharraf sent them home.
Musharraf's election was certainly more legitimate than that of Syrian president Bashar Assad (with whom every leading Democrat has had a photo-op) or Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (adjunct professor at Columbia University) or Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez (loon).
Where were the headlines like this week's Economist's ("Time's up, Mr. Musharraf";) about those lovable rogues? They hate America, so they can stay.
The last time liberals were this enthusiastic about popular rule in some Third World country was in 1979, when they were gushing about Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in Iran. Professor Richard Falk of Princeton University assured liberals in a 1979 New York Times op-ed that the "depiction of Khomeini as fanatical, reactionary, and the bearer of crude prejudices seems certainly and happily false."
I'm no clock-watcher, but it's been 28 years; I don't think Falk is going to be issuing an apology.
Falk cheerfully concluded that the fanatical Muslim leaders in Iran "may yet provide us with a desperately needed model of humane government for a Third World country."
And just look at all the wonderful things Khomeini did for Iran!
How might popular rule turn out in Pakistan? As Saul Bellow rhetorically said of multiculturalism, "Who is the Tolstoy of the Zulus?"
Pakistan is a country where local Islamic courts order women to be raped as punishment for the crimes of their male relatives. Among the Islamists' bill of particulars against Musharraf is the fact that he has promoted the Women's Protection Bill, which would punish rape, rather than using it as a device for social control.
According to The Boston Globe, the most common form of homosexuality in Pakistan -- punishable by death -- is pederasty.
Pakistan doesn't need Adlai Stevenson right now. It needs Mustafa Kemal Ataturk to impose military rule and drag a country of Islamic savages into the 19th century, as Ataturk did in Turkey. Pakistan's Ataturk is Gen. Musharraf.
To try to force democracy on the differing "I hate America" factions in Pakistan at this stage would be worse than Jimmy Carter's abandonment of the Shah in 1979. It would result in what former assistant secretary of state Edward Djerejian called: "one man, one vote, one time."
The difference is: Instead of scimitars, this den of al-Qaida-supporting pederasts will have nukes.]
Is it now OK to refer to Pakistan as Pederasts Al-Qaida Supporting and Nuclear-armed or at least by the acronym PAQiStaN?
Will this draw the ire of professors of Pederast Studies at minor American colleges and cause the Chowk editors to ban interactors for using the new acronym as opposed to the older acronym Pakistan?
Inquiring minds want to know!
#4 Posted by mohar11 on November 14, 2007 9:26:27 am
masadi
I have never seen any paki criticize Jinnah(pubh) in such strong terms as you do...
What's your angle anyway?...
I have never seen any paki criticize Jinnah(pubh) in such strong terms as you do...
What's your angle anyway?...
#3 Posted by arjun8 on November 14, 2007 8:45:45 am
#2 Posted by masadi on November 14, 2007 8:39:13 am
masadi: if your contention is that pakis wouldn't vote for the islamofascists and my contention is that the world thinks they will, doesn't that actually prove that the world is, in fact, stupid..
and mushy is just the leash on the canine that is pureland...changing leashes doesn't make a lion out of the canine.
masadi: if your contention is that pakis wouldn't vote for the islamofascists and my contention is that the world thinks they will, doesn't that actually prove that the world is, in fact, stupid..
and mushy is just the leash on the canine that is pureland...changing leashes doesn't make a lion out of the canine.
#2 Posted by masadi on November 14, 2007 8:39:13 am
Arjun writes "The world thinks, with good cause, that pakis are knuckle dragging islamist savages who'll elect the paki equivalent of hamas in free elections."
The world isn't as stupid as you sound. Pakistanis do not vote for religious parties unless they are mainstreamed with help from military dictators the like of Musharraf, or hypocritical "secularists" like the MAJ who want to use the religious sentiment to pit groups against each other. And btw, Musharraf has fallen out of favor with the US elite- he is as good as gone....
The world isn't as stupid as you sound. Pakistanis do not vote for religious parties unless they are mainstreamed with help from military dictators the like of Musharraf, or hypocritical "secularists" like the MAJ who want to use the religious sentiment to pit groups against each other. And btw, Musharraf has fallen out of favor with the US elite- he is as good as gone....
#1 Posted by arjun8 on November 14, 2007 5:57:28 am
Sheesh..don't you get it?
The world thinks, with good cause, that pakis are knuckle dragging islamist savages who'll elect the paki equivalent of hamas in free elections.
The world needs mushy as long as he's willing the bomb the tribals and use whatever means necessary against islamofascists like the lal masjid chix.
The world thinks, with good cause, that pakis are knuckle dragging islamist savages who'll elect the paki equivalent of hamas in free elections.
The world needs mushy as long as he's willing the bomb the tribals and use whatever means necessary against islamofascists like the lal masjid chix.
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