Pakistan at War

tahmed writes "hamidm #70 jehadis are musharraf's job security"

Like I said, this fool will only present half the picture and the source he will ignore because it presents the objects of his worship, the US elite in a bad light.

Jihadis are Musharraf's job security just as they are "security" for the US elite in order to carry on a continuous WOT, and rob the American people and the world. In this facade in which the Jihadis play this sinister role of keeping the tyrants in business, Musharraf happens to be a very small and quite dispensible/disposable player as we are finding out...

tahmed writes " If people through history had limited their goals to matching the "past", we would still be living in caves. Hope this answers your questions, my friend"

Here is another fool who doesn't have a clue about anything, his intellect goes to the extent of repeating US propaganda and taking sides that the US has chosen out of convenience for its barbaric motives. He is against Musharraf not becuase he came to power illegally and has helped destroy Pakistan's political institutions and weakened its solidarity and acted like a barbarian- no that is not the reason he opposes him, he opposes him only because he has fallen out of favor with the US.

Now, regarding his (non) point about history: people don't limit their goals to matching history, history determines in the absence of revolutions what your goals can be because of institutional persistence- that is how socieites at different levels of organization work, otherwise you get an Iraq, a failed state where regardless of the vision of anyone, your ability to achieve any goal is zero. Get it fool.

szaman writes "I had no idea you are so full of hate"

You still don't have a clue about me. Exposing your stupidity about "The US is not calling the shots in Pakistan" because of fuel supplies for Nato, does not amount to "hate", neither does it say anything about my "Islam" nor does it reveal that I am an "unwashed fanatic"- what is does reveal is that narrowminded ignoramuses like yourself cannot stand being exposed as fools.....

#76 CreateAlpha: If people through history had limited their goals to matching the "past", we would still be living in caves. Hope this answers your questions, my friend.

tahmed yaar, responsible gov't in Pakistan? Have you ever had one?

hamidm #70 jehadis are musharraf's job security. take away musharraf's job and put in place a responsible government (not another tinpot general), and jehadis will disappear.

Just keep on blaming anyone and anything, but at all costs avoid looking in the mirror. That would be difficult, right?

And if someone points to the sectarian violence in NWFP, and you don't have a logical answer to it, just side step it and move on to the next issue.

masadi

I had no idea you are so full of hate. It says quite a bit about you and your Islam. Only if the civilized world knew how to get rid of you unwashed fanatics.

hamid writes " so, tell me ... is the us elite responsible for all the internecine slaughter that has been taking place within the ummah since the time of the abominable four?"

Don't try to invent straw men in order to pervert my extremely spot on arguments regarding the US power structure and its elite post WW2. Regarding the claim that you are "very consistent"- the only thing you are consistent in is parroting the base propaganda of Bush like morons, and not even that of the sophisticated members of the US elite....

hamid writes " so, tell me ... is the us elite responsible for all the internecine slaughter that has been taking place within the ummah since the time of the abominable four?"

Don't try to invent straw men in order to pervert my extremely spot on arguments regarding the US power structure and its elite post WW2. Regarding the claim that you are "very consistent"- the only thing you are consistent in is parroting the base propaganda of Bush like morons, and not even that of the sophisticated members of the US elite....

Re: # 68

zyxius,

..... i am very consistent .... i never threatened to kill anyone personally - all i did was offer to pay for the hellfire missiles with my tax dollars ..... unlike you jihadis, i am not a fool - i don't have to blow myself up for my cause when i can afford to pay for remote controlled technology ......

Re: # 68

Right on dude... Bring them on... Bring the yankees on to pakiland... Wait a minute, I thought they are already in there... guarding your nuke sites[so nytimes says], monitoring passenger list at your airports... hell-firing tribals once a while...

Don't worry about injuns and chinese... you just enjoy the "show"...

#66 - mohar...you seem to have a big stick up your ass over Pakistan. Maybe you should realize that the reason the US wants to be situated here is to be in a better position to give it to you Injuns and Chinese next. Thats how their strategy usually works.

As far as sending in their own guys is concerned, I am saying that rather than others falling into their trap and fighting their wars for them, we should force them to do their dirty deeds themselves. Idealistic? I know. I think it is actually worth the devastating cost to have the Americans get it our of their system and have their sons & daughters sent home in body bags wholesale. Besides, they are so damned tied up in Iraq and the planning for Iran is at an advanced stage...so I doubt very much they have enough free hands or the public appetite to do anything more than bitch about it and cut off aid. No amount of aid is worth a civil war in your country....it contradicts the purpose of the term aid. American aid is more like a slow working poison which is sure to kill.

Hamidm....I think you should grow a pair and speak in your beliefs in public before you try to be a hero from the safety of your computer. One day you're making threats to kill all bearded people, force surgical procedures on the population etc. Another time you admitted that you are a cowardly sissy who wouldn't dare speak what he thinks in public, but you fancy yourself as the next Ataturk. Take some medication and shut up man...there is no point talking to people who don't even have the balls to be consistent.

Re: # 65

30 faithfuls killed,130 injured in one day?... hmmm, it took us weeks to have that kind of kill-rate in kashmir, even at the height of jihad...

Well, you pakis are way ahead of us on this... we can never match your kill-rate on muslims...

Re: # 61
[...I say we make them send their guys in so we can enjoy the show and watch more dumb hicks die for their Jewish masters...]

Yeah, good idea... Make americans send in their guys to pakiland... make them send in the marines and the daisy-cutters... it will be a great show indeed... :)

masadi and zyxius,

... so, tell me ... is the us elite responsible for all the internecine slaughter that has been taking place within the ummah since the time of the abominable four? ........ what about karbala and now parachinar? .....

PARACHINAR: At least 30 people were reported killed and another 130 wounded in sectarian violence in Parachinar city of Kurram Agency on Saturday, locals and hospital sources said.

Fighting between the Sunni and Shia sects erupted after unidentified militants hurled a hand-grenade at the central mosque in Parachinar, where hundreds of Sunnis were offering Friday prayers.

............ i think it is the nature of the beast